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By leopoldij [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 20:29 other posts 
The Nobel peace prize Committee just announced that Trump will be getting a peace prize.

I'm surprised, but I respect the decision.

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Wonder what maga people will be saying
By phart [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 23:15 other posts 
I found nothing in the news about it for 2026,only stuff I found was 2025,
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 02:02 other posts 
Did you click on the link on the right hand side near the top?

The actual news is there. I copy and paste below. I'm in a rush now but you can easily Google translate it.

Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 08:49 other posts 
That is not a legit prize, something you made up.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 11:12 other posts 
No. This is the actual Nobel Peace
Prize given to President Trump. Ananas2xLekker and CAT52!,
who both read Norwegian, can verify this.

The Nobel peace prize Committee
just announced that Trump will be
getting a peace prize.

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Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 13:44 other posts 
Trump has been NOMINATED for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize,
but I'm sure that they can find 'some' people who deserve it more.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 18:45 other posts 

And yet, this phart fell for it.
I thought it was 😂 hilarious!
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 22:49 other posts 
I didn't fall for anything dumbass, I went to the link you posted, found nothing about it, and said so, and you reposted the same damn link. then come up with some shit story.
Trump has done more for world peace than you have leo.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 01:20 other posts 
You fucked up
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 09:19 other posts 
ananas,would you give me some clue as to how I fucked up when all i did was said there was nothing there and leo's shit was fake?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 11:57 other posts 
In this case, I'm on your side; you couldn't believe that anyone still thinks
that Trump would deserve The Nobel peace prize either.

Honestly, my first reactions was: "NOOOOO, have they gone completely mad!"
Fortunately, a simple search saved me from giving up on the world completely.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 13:59 other posts 
Well, I can't say all that but it would have been a interesting read had it been real, and there have been some folks that got it that others doubted deserved it. frankly even joe biden did more for world peace than leo.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 15:54 other posts 
Pope Leo only got it, because as an American he confronted Trump.
He tried to prevent a war between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe it worked, because the violence of the takeover was minimal.
Venezuela is now under control and the US is stealing their money,
but maybe the US will let them keep some of the money for their own oil.
At least, the US has relaxed some of the sanctions.
Maybe, that's what Pope Leo got out of the meetings with JD Vance.
And that's maybe worth a Nobel peace prize these days.

It obviously didn't work to prevent a war with Iran, which is THE WAR that Israel had been demanding for decades, but even Republican presidents were smart enough to not start. Didn't I predict that it would be a fucking mess?
It now looks that Iran wants to stretch this war until the next POTUS, while they keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
Maybe you don't realize what a mess this will be for the US.
It's not that you need this oil so much, it's more that you will loose any goodwill from other countries that you might still have.

Honestly, I see one good thing coming from it; it will speed up the transition
to renewable energy. And since Trump will prevent that from happening in the US, it will put you behind even further. The billionaires will still make lots of money, don't worry about that. It will just be devastating to the rest of you.
It will be great for China, who will make all the solar panels, wind turbines
and batteries. They will be the next superpower. I hope they'll only take Taiwan.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 16:45 other posts 
actually I was talking about our resident leo the smart ass ,not the catholic leo.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 17:32 other posts 
Why would leopoldij need to do anything for world peace?
As far as I know he doesn't have a high position in a government?

I thought you meant leopoldij at first, and then I remembered the Pope.
"Oh, he means the Pope, that makes sense." Not to you of course.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 20:09 other posts 
Well, I will admit, leo has no moral or legal obligation to do a damn thing in society. BUT you would think as critical as he is of things and people, and high and mighty as he acts, that he would actually want to do something to help achieve world peace. But no, he just sits in his basement with drool running down his chin while black mold grows on the walls.All the while calling himself typing on his Amiga 1200. And with all that going on it is raining outside and his mother is upstairs hollering the porridge and skim milk is ready. so yea, he does nothing for world peace,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 04:17 other posts 
Some people are keyboard warriors (there is a lot of them here,
no exceptions for yours truly), some people join "No Kings!" protests,
or go on a boat to interfere with whale hunting or dumping toxic waste
in the ocean. Other people flood the streets to communicate their lack
of empathy or even hate for the least powerful and fortunate people
in the world. What do you consider "doing a damn thing"?

Everyone can promote world peace in a small way, but citizens can only become a big factor, if they dedicate their lives to a cause. It also requires talents that not everyone has, because the 'job' mainly requires convincing other people.

Convincing people is extraordinarily difficult because you're not just transferring information, you’re trying to change another human being's internal model of the world. We have been trying to do that for each other for years now, and I think we can agree that we didn't have great success. lol

Just having an interest in politics doesn't mean that you can 'sell' politics to other people. You can learn some skills, but there are talents and natural advantages that you cannot learn, but sometimes compensate for. I have learned some of them on the job, but I know my limitations. I also know my strengths, and what they are useful for. Basically, I'm a problem solver.
I learned this in an in-between job, where I received the most recognition.
It was when I could analyze a problem, understand its causes, and work out a solution. That experience carried into the jobs that followed, and it gradually became part of my role. Today, I solve and implement solutions, and I also help others do the same. It's only part of my work, but it's a big enough part, and one where I can really use my strengths.
It's in Big Pharma, who make money from people who suffer, but without us they would suffer worse and die. Pharmaceutical products help people lead a normal life and contribute to society. This enriches people who don't add any value, but that is a system that humanity has chosen. We could choose something better.

On a large scale, solving problems requires an organization that combines different strengths. I have the skills to execute, but execution depends on having permission, authority, resources, information, and institutional access. A person can be capable of solving a problem but, I could not be effective, without my employers system, that provides me the mandate to make relevant decision, allocate the money, change the policy, or mobilize the people required.

Unless you have the skills, attributes, mandate and time to have a big impact, as an average citizen you can affect the world on a small scale, in some or more of the following ways:

1. Be a good person to the people around you.
2. Support people who are struggling.
3. Donate money to effective causes.
4. Build an accurate, reality-based understanding of the world.
5. Vote and participate in democracy with the common good in mind.
6. Stay informed about important public issues.
7. Use your professional skills for good.
8. Make your workplace better for other people.
9. Mentor, teach, or help someone advance.
10. Strengthen your local community and social connections.
11. Volunteer a small, sustainable amount of time.
12. Reduce unnecessary consumption and waste.
13. Make major purchases environmentally and socially responsible.
14. Invest in home insulation and energy efficiency.
15. Invest in solar power and other clean energy.
16. Replace fossil-fuel systems with electric alternatives where practical.
17. Reduce dependence on private-car transport and fossil fuels.
18. Invest your savings in productive, responsible businesses and infrastructure.
19. Use your influence as a consumer, employee, citizen, and investor.
20. Share useful knowledge, skills, and opportunities with others.
21. Build a good, sustainable life rather than sacrificing yourself to the cause.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 10:46 other posts 
this is 1 of the more civilized and useful post you have made, I hope leo , the syd 1, can read and learn. because he just seems to be a muck raker.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 11:26 other posts 
Thanks
By Blacklab77 [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 22:06 other posts 
The Pope is a president of a country. His army is the masses of Catholics. He’s no better than any other head of state.


By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 11:21 other posts 
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By Jamie [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 21:28 other posts 
only registered users can see external links oh my
By Blacklab77 [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 09:36 other posts 
Where is this?
By Jamie [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 09:49 other posts 
The uk
By Blacklab77 [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 12:31 other posts 


By phart [Ignore] 29,Jul,26 20:54 other posts 
I can't help but wonder what secrets fauchi-felchy is holding back pleading the 5th so many times? What is he afraid to tell us? He has been pardoned,what the hell has he got to loose?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 04:55 other posts 
He is not participating in this childish perjury trap.

What do you think, that he would just tell you, if there was some massive conspiracy
going on, that your whole administration failed to uncover? Silly goose!

What was Trump hiding, when he pleaded the 5th over 440 times?

One thing that the House Republicans have been trying to do, is to abuse the broad definition of gain-of-function (GoF) research, give him no time to explain what part of that definition was applicable to the international infectious disease research collaborations and which part was not, and then try to point to some made up inconsistency and call it a lie, for which they will try to put him in jail for 5 years. Does that answer your question?
By phart [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 12:16 other posts 
not really. Until the paper work that is supposedly sealed for 75 years is opened that tells all the info about the so called vaccines, no,it will not answer my questions.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 12:54 other posts 
Nothing related to the Covid pandemic and vaccines is top secret.
Everything is already in public records or can be requested trough FOIA.

You are actually accusing Trump of hiding some conspiracy too now.
Remember that it was him who started Operation Warp Speed.
He was quite proud of that, until you all turned mental.

What are you expecting to learn, if there were those records?
If there were records that would condemn Fauci, would Trump hide it for him?

You don't have questions, you just have a chaotic feeling of distrust.
You think that I trust the government because I don't have the same questions.
It was your MAGA president and my VVD (corporate right-wing) prime minister
handling the Covid pandemic. You think that a socialist is trusting that side more than you? I was annoyed on a daily basis with how they handled it. There were fuck-ups regularly. But if there was some global conspiracy going on, we first need to establish
A GOAL!!! I have heard multiple ridiculous goals from your side, that ALL do not make sense with what happened. You have no idea about a goal either, you just want to believe that something extremely evil was going on. Well, if there was, they were fortunately incredibly incompetent, because the world is basically back to how it was.

The only evil that was achieved is a fucking huge transfer of wealth from the taxpayers
to the wealthy, who got massive bailouts from our right-wing governments.
But they don't need a pandemic for that and you like that, so why are you complaining?
By phart [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 14:47 other posts 
Well, something aint right, to many folks I knew are dead now shortly after them damn shots, and I understand there could fault most anywhere,but it is time to settle it and get the best info out there into the living rooms of the US and if you ever wanted to fix this distrust in government,now is the time to do it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 16:06 other posts 
How many, how shortly. I think you're suffering from massive confirmation bias.

There can be something wrong with any product that you put in your body. A single can of beans can kill you with botulism, meat can contain deadly parasites, there is an outbreak of Cyclospora parasites right now. 423 people have been hospitalized. And vaccines can indeed contain a contamination or some unlucky bastard can have an allergic reaction. Still, overall vaccines have massively reduced the deaths of infectious diseases. You only still see polio in the bible belt or old people who had it as a child. Many diseases were practically wiped out, but some are now coming back because of vaccine fears.

That fear is not all caused by the government. The media was spreading doubt 24/7, by "just asking questions". Sorry to tell you, but those questions were fucking ignorant or blatant misinformation, for political reasons.

If you haven't stopped taking all pharmaceutical products, you are accepting the same risk of death every day, that you would have had once by getting vaccinated. Most pharmaceuticals have been tested less extensively than the vaccines. Some pharmaceuticals have so many side effects that it is debatable whether their benefits outweigh their risks. All the focus is on vaccines, while they have been proven to be very safe and effective, because the only thing they do is train the immune system. That's much less impact than lowering blood pressure, suppressing inflammation,
or killing bacteria.
You were accepting a much higher risk from the virus itself, because you are not a young, healthy guy. The morgue was full of guys like you, who were afraid of the 'jab'. There were enough guys of my age and weight dying too, so that's why I was careful to not get it. After I was fully vaccinated, I was feeling relieved. Not because I trusted the vaccines from the start, but because many old people got it before me and lived.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,26 08:53 other posts 
Phart, they were MAGA Republicans.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 31,Jul,26 12:15 other posts 
Can you believe that the maga religionists are worried about Faucu but they never ever say anything about their supreme leader's blatant crimes?
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,26 12:17 other posts 
They process everything through very simple patterns:

Complex crisis → uncertainty and fear → simple explanation → identifiable enemy → simple solution

If you understand multiple interacting factors, you see:

Virus biology + human behavior + public health capacity + healthcare systems + communication + economics + political decisions + social trust → pandemic outcomes

I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that Fauci was doing anything nefarious, other then trying to manage stupid people, by not being fully candid
about everything, all the time.

As a result, they accuse him of killing millions of people, while simultaneously
calling Covid "just a cold". However, the recent charades are just a distraction.
They scored very well with fearmongering, so this is their attempt to regain support.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 09:47 other posts 
Deport him we don’t need a guy like fishy fauchi around
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 10:51 other posts 
He’s a native born American. Where do we deport him to? The Rocky Mountains?
By phart [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 14:54 other posts 
Like a revenuer, he probably would never come back down the mountain.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 18:28 other posts 
Works for me
Your own president praised him, but now your cult says "Attack him!"
so you do, without having the slightest idea why.
Did you always want to be a DOG?
By dgraff [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 06:22 other posts 
That was before the democrats got a hold of him and twisted his mind around they told him it was ok to lie and they signed him a life long pardon to bad it was in auto pen
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 07:16 other posts 
There are about 6 different topics that he supposedly lied about. In none of these cases did he clearly lie.

March 2020 masks: Incomplete / strategically framed
PPE shortage rationale: Not fully candid initially
Wuhan/gain-of-function: Interpreted consistently with the narrow definition
6-foot rule: Weakly evidenced / arbitrary, but easy to remember
Lab-leak origins: Said that there was no reason to suspect intent
“I am the science”: Rhetorical overreach

It's a stupid inefficient practice, but it seems that hundreds or even thousands of forms for standard appropriations, staff assignments and other low level documents are asking for a director's signature, while that is practically nonsense. It seems that your government agencies have used auto pens a lot. That's mostly your government's inability to solve issues. A mechanical pen device that's rare in my country.
Some government agencies use pre-printed signatures or stamps or digital signatures. Not everything has to be signed by a director, but sometimes they use
the signature of the person who is leading the department, without actually requiring authorization. It's a common long-established practice in the US, because you have
a more hierarchical society. Individual officeholders care about their signature,
as the visible symbol of authority.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 25,Jul,26 10:32 other posts 
Hello CAT52!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 16:15 other posts 
Hey Leo
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 22:39 other posts 
Hi hi hi


By leopoldij [Ignore] 25,Jul,26 10:33 other posts 
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 08:11 other posts 
Hi leopoldij, how are you doing?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 08:57 other posts 
Watching trump increase tariffs....
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 09:29 other posts 
Republicans used to be free trade absolutists. Look at em now.
Tariffs can be a useful tool, if you use them intelligently, but....
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 10:05 other posts 
Any intelligence has been replaced by crookedness
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 10:32 other posts 
True, but if self-dealing was the only goal, they would not make such incredibly stupid choices. That would hurt their self-dealing long-term.

Their main goal is vandalism. They are a movement that believes government is broken, attacks and weakens its institutions, replaces expertise with loyalty,
and then points to the resulting dysfunction as proof that government never worked.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 12:33 other posts 
Very astute observation: they'll
bring collapse and then claim
that it's "the others" who did it.
They could even orchestrate a
fatal event to "prove" their point.

But to what benefit? Ultimately,
it's their self-benefit.
They want to enrich themselves by
taking advantage of the concept
of invincible presidency and the
fact that none of their minions
will ever question their "ethics".
They've achieved an almost total
religious adherence to them.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 13:29 other posts 
They want the United States to be carved up by billionaires, who all own and rule their piece of the land and people, with the Trump family as the ruling dynasty.
The lord-kings will be ruling their serfs from their castles, but instead of knights, they'll control the people with robots. People will be working 12 hours per day,
7 days per week, from age 10, for starvation wages, and live in small apartments owned by their lord-king. The fairest daughters of the serfs will be taken to serve
the lord-king's perverse desires, from the age of 10 too. They will also breed his 50 children, who will all be competing for their father's succession, by showing who can manage the sweatshops (for the jobs that robots are too expensive for) the most ruthlessly. This is not a fantasy, this is exactly what you get, if you follow the trends that they have set out.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 13:46 other posts 
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Since you folks like graphs,Trump didn't dig the hole,he inherited it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 16:36 other posts 
It was not Biden's inflation, it was COVID INFLATION. IT WAS GLOBAL.
Before Covid hit, Trump's economy was already cooling down.
Then he created a massive crisis, by bungling Covid response.
Biden inherited that crisis, but he turned it around, better than other countries.

Even if prices for some things will come down, Trump's stupidity is turning
people's overall cost of living into a complete crisis.

If Trump inherited anything from Biden, he could have easily changed it,
because he controls the house, the senate, and the supreme court.
Biden didn't, which means that he had to deal with your side obstructing
his every move, even when he wanted to introduce very strict immigration laws.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 17:32 other posts 
I mentioned the phrase "religious adherence" above. As you see, it's pointless to try to argue rationally with any magaidiot. This is the greatest achievement of trump and co.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 17:57 other posts 
Yea,sure. Try getting a liberal to discuss causes and blame without taking responsibility for the wrong doing of their side. biden had all the chance in the world to force those deadly shots on all of us,tear down walls at the border and etc,but lucky for America,there are a few people willing to stop it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 09:24 other posts 
"those deadly shots" I took 3, and I'm still alive.
You're self-programming your brain with nonsense.
That is why leo says that it's pointless to try to argue rationally with you.

Even if your worst assumptions are true, they are still not "deadly shots".
That would mean that we would have lost 5.6 billion people worldwide,
myself and everyone I know (except my brother in law) included.

No one told me something like: "Do you know who died directly after getting the shot? The father of Mark from IT.". Why not? Because, besides my brother in law, I'm hanging around with people who can rationally assess these claims. Even my brother in law didn't know anyone personally who died. He told me about dozens
of unsubstantiated claims from his friend's friends; which are useless rumors.
That's what ALL OF YOU have; nothing but useless rumors.

Your side controls all the institutions now, and you STILL got nothing.
Sure, they make theater investigating Fauci, but that's it.
So, you either have to admit that you're wrong or that your side is the most
useless bunch ever. Democrats would have had piles of evidence by now.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 20:32 other posts 
I'm speaking to you, not to
religious idiots.

Take a look at this.
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Have tariffs worked?
No.
They were illegal.
American suckers are now paying
more because of tariffs.

Has trump become richer though?
Yes.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Jul,26 05:33 other posts 
"Have tariffs worked?"
That depends on the goal. If his goal is to tax the lower and middle class more, to compensate for the billionaire tax-cuts, then it is the easiest thing that he could do.
If the goal is to cause chaos on the stock-market, that your family and friends can use to enrich themselves, than it is a devious plan. I'm sure that he didn't think of it himself, because he's not smart enough for that.

Trump doesn't give a fuck about anything being 'illegal'. He has been getting away with crimes all of his life. At worst he had to pay some fines. If you own the DOJ,
the FBI and the supreme court, and all your senators and governors are partisan loyalists, then nothing is 'illegal' anymore.


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