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POLITICS...Pertaining to the United States of America.

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 13,Sep,22 03:10  other posts
Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.

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By phart [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 17:45 other posts 
Welfare fraud supporting terrorism, and so many liberals claim fraud is not a problem in the system, sheesh, naive nut case's.

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By phart [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 17:32 other posts 
5 million in disaster relief funds stolen by a democrat to help herself get reelected.
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I hope they can recover at least Some of the money she took.
that is money that could have helped Helen victims last year.


By phart [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 17:26 other posts 
This is why free trade is a problem.
The deal was signed in 2005 by BUSH, and is STILL putting people out of work today 20 friggen years later.
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America first damn it.


By kebmo [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 03:29 other posts 
It's TACO time.... again.

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By tecsan [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 04:41 other posts 
I think your silly bullshit has very little credibility...
By kebmo [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 06:13 other posts 
It's a fact in every American knows it including you. Tariffs are taxes on the consumers of America and because of that prices are going up.

TACO
By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 07:49 other posts 
Question, how do you suggest the trade imbalance be fixed?
By kebmo [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 14:27 other posts 
Well if America would just grow coffee and bananas in North Dakota you can supply your own.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 17:41 other posts 
The simplest thing to do is just eliminate those items from our want list.
Focus on what we can grow,focus on what we NEED, not want. Coffee at star bucks is a want because of the taste and caffeine, but it is not what we need. We need clean pure water, milk, and natural fruit and berry juices.But when you have a bunch of damn liberal idiots willing to gather up in a snooty place called starbucks and pay stupid prices for coffee, you create the problem
By kebmo [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 20:36 other posts 
"Cucumbers are so expensive now that women are having sex with their husbands."

-Bill Maher
By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 21:09 other posts 
HEY, this tariff thing and getting the illegals out has a bright side even liberals have to acknowledge.

That also may explain why the nieghbor down the road started growing Zucchini's!
By tecsan [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 04:51 other posts 
I bet those 19 or so boats do not believe your taco crap.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 08:30 other posts 
He is giving orders to have people murdered by the military.
He doesn't have to face anyone personally. He doesn't even see the death bodies.
The most cowardly person in the world can do that. (and is)


By leopoldij [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 05:27 other posts 
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Thr cost of health care for millions of Americans is going up.
They could soon see huge spikes in their insurance premiums.

Of all people, it's the far right-wing conspiracy theorist Marjorie Greene who says she, and millions of other people, shouldn't pay higher premiums. Millions can't afford it and they'll die.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 06:53 other posts 
no 1's going to die, that is hogwash. They might go bankrupt which is 2 notches from dieing but no,no deaths.that is shock and awe to scare people like you. financing is offered for health care, i should know, i am in the middle of it now.
By quint [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 07:07 other posts 
Financing for healthcare? Wow.. that's tough! What happens if your credit is bad? I'm glad we don't have to worry about any of that.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 15:46 other posts 
Well, I am thankful I able to get help now. Some of that "free" care in other countries, i may had died waiting for a appointment. I was able to prompt the dr's to take action quicker than they wanted to.
By quint [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 20:14 other posts 
..talk about exaggeration! I don't know anybody who has ever died waiting. I think you have a misconception of universal healthcare. I'm in my 60's and have had great healthcare all my life. ..for free
September 2015 – “60 Minutes” interview with Scott Pelley on CBS 60 Minutes,
Trump said: “Everybody’s got to be covered … I am going to take care of everybody.
I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

When asked who would pay, he responded: “The government’s gonna pay for it.”

He added that his plan would still involve private plans, with competition:
“It’s going to be a private plan … people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans … they can have their doctors … they can have plans … everything.”

As president-elect, Trump told the Washington Post:
“We’re going to have insurance for everybody. … There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

Feb 13, 2025 – Trump signed an Executive Order to establish the “Make America Healthy Again Commission.”. According to the White House fact sheet, the commission will investigate major causes of chronic disease in America, “prioritize gold-standard research,” and develop strategies to improve health coverage flexibility.

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Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” includes about $4.5 trillion in tax cuts over 10 years.
According to ITEP, more than 70% of the net tax cuts go to the richest 20% of Americans.
ITEP also says the richest 5% alone will get 45% of the new tax cuts.
For the top 1%, ITEP estimates they’ll receive total tax cuts of $1.02 trillion over 10 years.

The Americans for Tax Fairness group claims Trump’s plan would cut “nearly $2 trillion from health care, mostly Medicaid.”
The CBO estimates those changes could leave 10+ million people uninsured.

Conclusion: Trump is taking away healthcare for 10+ million Americans,
to give the richest people in the US some more money.
Is that what he promised the American people?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 23:15 other posts 
You're spot on again.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 11:11 other posts 
Thanks, but it's just sad that some foreigners have to tell Americans how they are screwed.

We just had an election in the Netherlands. Healthcare was a very important topic. We had at least 6 parties debate their healthcare plans clearly. All parties had their programs analyzed, so the Dutch people can clearly understand the impact of their vote on healthcare. Some parties invest in lower costs for the people, other parties cut expenses and reduce what the basic insurance will cover.

MAGA Americans don't know shit. They refuse to understand that cutting billions
from taxes funding healthcare will make their insurance premiums higher and their coverage lower. Either they believe in fairy-tales or they just like to be lied to.

They voted for a president who clearly does the opposite of what he promised,
and they like it. I come from a country where promises matter.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 11:49 other posts 
Exactly. They're beyond repair.
They're hopeless.
Even when they get royally
screwed they still support those
who fuck them up.
This is rare to find in
European countries.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 23:18 other posts 
Of all people, this woman, the craziest of all of you extreme fascistoids, starts realising that her idol didn't do as he promised and that he may have actually done bad bad things. But you are still in denial. Which is no surprise, because your a fanatic unstable reactionary guy in the boonies.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 07:36 other posts 
But I bet the democrats will roll out the red carpet for her since she is mad at Trump, because that is their only interest ,hating Trump
By leopoldij [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 11:47 other posts 
Again, you deflect the issue. The most staunch supporter of your dear leader stopped being in 100% agreement with him. That's the issue. But you don't want to address it.
By tecsan [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 04:34 other posts 
I do believe elected democrats have switched parties because of well I guess the lunacy. I think there is a lot of deflecting going on with the far left reprobates.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 07:05 other posts 
No, dumb-ass, it's the corruption that makes some Democrats switch party.

Also, being a Republican politician is SOOOO EASY.
You lot don't want anything and believe such childish lies.
Hurting people is your ONLY demand, and that's EASY.


By kebmo [Ignore] 20,Nov,25 00:30 other posts 
The drainer has become the swamp.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 11:55 other posts 
Oops!!
That's not so good for maga...

The *Republican*-led U.S. Congress voted overwhelmingly in favour of forcing the Justice Department to release its files on the late sex offender.

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If the files are innocent, why did trump not want their release?

Why did the lunatic MTG disagree?

How do you think phart will react to that?
Oh, yes, I know.
He'll blame the far left or something for drugging all but one republicans.

Hope deep will phart bury his head into the ground like an ostrich?
By phart [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 12:22 other posts 
I will put my head in the sand about as deep = to the height you put your head up above the clouds thinking you are so damn smart and better than everybody else.
Trump ,unlike you and others, has enough sense to know this is all a big distraction and so what if his name in in there, the rest of the names are probably those you don't want out there.like DEMOCRATS. the free for fuck it alls
By leopoldij [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 22:01 other posts 
Every person who took advantage of the pe*do services should go to jail, regardless whether he's democrat or not.


By PITBULL [Ignore] 19,Nov,25 13:10 other posts 
tecsan you are racist that's why you are a republican.


By kebmo [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 14:59 other posts 
So let me see if I have this Trump economics plan straight.

-Trump promises to lower grocery prices "on day one".
-Tariffs do not cause food prices to rise.
-When tariffs went on the food items the price rose.
-Tariffs are now coming off some food items in order to lower prices.

Conclusion: Donald Trump finally got it through his thick head that when the cost to the importer goes up, the cost to the consumer goes up.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 16:55 other posts 
Trump did achieve something; he angered all the other countries, who have now found other trading partners than the US, and made them consider to abandon the dollar
as the world's principal reserve currency.

By the way, do you want to sell me some fine Canadian products?
You can also come to Europe for your winter vacation.
By kebmo [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 17:31 other posts 
Canadians spent a lot of money this year travelling around Canada and Europe. Check this out:

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By tecsan [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 04:50 other posts 
Who cares...51 does not sound too bad.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 11:11 other posts 
I know you don't care about anything bad happening under a Republican
and you don't care about anything good happening under a Democrat.
I just don't understand what you are voting for then.
Do you understand that politicians should represent you, not the other way around?


By phart [Ignore] 18,Nov,25 06:52 other posts 
Oh this is juicy, could it be?
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Never heard of these sources but oh man, if this has 1 ounce of truth to it, wouldn't that be sweet? Prove the democrats to be the real crooks!


By phart [Ignore] 16,Nov,25 17:40 other posts 
We need Americans to train for blue collar work!
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 08:41 other posts 
Sure, if you throw out the immigrants that did it, Americans should.
Or you say goodbye to the small bit of production industry, you still had.
It's only 10% of the GDP, who cares? You cannot compete with China anyway.
By phart [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 11:05 other posts 
It is getting to the point it is the quality of what comes from china that is a issue, they are CAPABLE of making good stuff but it never makes it over here.

As for American workers, I have yet to understand what gives the people nowadays the notion they are better than to do actual work than others like immigrants. EVEN YOU should be able to see that when folks check into a motel ,it is never white Americans working there, they are always from over seas. There is dignity in work, our ancestors understood it, why it hasn't been taught now I don't know.

Immigrants are the liberals replacements for slaves, that is the bottom line.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Nov,25 16:29 other posts 
China makes everything from ridiculous scams to complete competition busters.
Some of their good products are kept from you, by your government.
There are often good reasons for it, like China using forced labor.
But, some of it is just protectionism. That might not even be a bad strategy.
However, if they have access to the cheapest electricity in the world, because
they make the best solar panels at the best price, it is not smart to keep them away
from our manufacturing, because then they pay more for electricity. That's a setback
that puts us further behind.

There is no dignity to the people who work in motels, it's exploitation. No American can life of that wage, but immigrants are forced to, out of desperation.

If you want Americans to do those jobs, you need to exploit them less, because that is bad for the economy. Those people cannot spend anything, can only live in slums, cannot afford children or if they have them accidentally, they cannot afford a decent education. Then you are losing against China even more, because they have armies of well educated, highly motivated, young people, to fill any technical position.

I'm saying this about the US, but it's getting more applicable to my country fast.
We are not educating our young people enough for the highly technical jobs.
Young people more often choose Business Administration, Commercial Economics, Finance, Medicine, Nursing, Psychology, Communication, Marketing, HR, Social Studies, Design, Media, Music, Gaming, Tourism, Pedagogy, Cybersecurity, Embedded Systems, AI Engineering, etc.
They keep pulling away to those educations, while the demand for technically educated people is skyrocketing, because we want to be less dependent on China.

I see it in my own work environment. Many of my new colleagues are from another country. I'm surprised if one gets introduced in Dutch to me. I speak more English
than Dutch at work. If the right-wingers in my country win big, and actually stop immigration and sends these people back, my employer can close up shop.

Meanwhile, the right-wing has NO strategy to invest in automation for when they stop the refugees from the horrible countries, who do the lower skilled work now, nor do they have a strategy to invest in technical education, to replace the expats who are filling
the technical jobs now. It's just blind short-term thinking: "We don't like immigrants!".


By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 17:54 other posts 
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By kebmo [Ignore] 14,Nov,25 19:36 other posts 
Maybe Venezuela can become the 51st date since the original choice declined. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
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By tecsan [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 02:04 other posts 
You do have somewhat of a good idea if you think about it!
By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 07:50 other posts 
Well at least we could go in there and fix the place, get rid of the drugs, and eliminate the need for them to illegally come here to get their freebies.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 10:19 other posts 
The US doesn't want to fix the place, but to rob it blind.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 10:28 other posts 
How's that? If we go in there and get rid of the drug cartels and such, and then buy their oil cheaper than we can produce our own, then they will have clean money that is not corrupt and can rebuild their economy,something drug money is not used for.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 11:04 other posts 
What Trump wants to do, is replace Maduro with some friend,
who takes your bribes and sells out his people, by selling off
the rights to the oil to some American oil company.
The Venezuelan people will get nothing, because
the American oil company and it's shareholders will
take everything. That's what your country always does,
when it goes into some country, 'to fix the place'.

The drugs story is just an excuse to take take their oil.

Remember how Trump said "I would have taken the oil" about Iraq?
The US had no fucking reason to attack Iraq, but Trump wanted
to take their oil, to pay for your war against an innocent country.
That speaks a lot about his morality and his intent with Venezuela.


By phart [Ignore] 15,Nov,25 07:48 other posts 
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By phart [Ignore] 14,Nov,25 19:36 other posts 
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NYC is over 75% democratic voters and incredibly liberal residents
They voted for a 34 year old trust fund socialist with no real life work experience
It’s going to be hysterical watching NYC circle the drain over the next 4 yea


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