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Global Warming... What do you Believe?

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Started by #485312 [Ignore] 15,Dec,20 18:50
Fact or Fiction.... is it really happening???
what do you think contributes to it and what is
being done to stop it?

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By phart [Ignore] 01,Mar,24 16:11 other posts 
reality setting in
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"Simply put, these huge industrial sites – we simply must stop using the friendly-sounding term “farms” to describe them – create all manner of negative consequences for local communities. Consequences like loud noise from wind turbines, hundreds of dead birds and bats sprinkled across the countryside, thousands of acres of productive farm or ranchlands taken out of production for many years if not permanently, spoiled views, enormous “graveyards” filled with 150-foot blades and solar panels popping up all over the place, and impacts to local wind and weather patterns that are only now beginning to be understood."

Not as much is green about "Green Energy" as the promoters claim.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Mar,24 05:18 other posts 
By Aliceinwonder [Ignore] 07,Mar,24 06:28 other posts 
Sadly, that graph is not going to convince anyone who chooses to believe that over 90% of scientists are lying through their teeth about climate change so that they can get funding for their research.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Mar,24 09:16 other posts 
Nor does it seem that folks can see the landfills are filling up with windmill blades either.

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Hard to believe they take them out of service so quickly anyway Should be made of lightweight pvc anyway or aluminum. something easily recyclable.

Apparently these folks that like fiberglass windmill blades have never had the loose fibers get into their skin and lungs ,say from cutting or scraping them.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Mar,24 10:12 other posts 
I don't deny anything. It's only your side who denies everything that doesn't suit your narrative and completely exaggerates what does suit your narrative, like the birds dying. I agree with making wind turbine blades from less polluting materials and using wind turbines to their maximum lifespan. That's what regulation should fix.

Yes, the birds are important, so prohibit all domestic cats and kill all feral cats?
Than we can expand the number of wind turbines by a factor of 10,256,
without killing more birds, than cats do now.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Mar,24 08:02 other posts 
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solar has it's draw backs to.It can cause warming.

What are the negatives of hydropower?
Pros and Cons of Hydroelectric Energy - Kiwi Energy
Here are a few of the main disadvantages of hydroelectric energy.

It Has an Environmental Impact. Perhaps the largest disadvantage of hydroelectric energy is the impact it can have on the environment. ...
It Displaces People. ...
It's Expensive. ...
There are Limited Reservoirs. ...
There are Droughts. ...
It's Not Always Safe.

No, we conservatives are just sticks in the mud according to liberals. Plow horses wore blinders so they would not be distracted by things around them.
liberals wear blinders because they only focus on the "new idea" and not the reason the "old Idea" hasn't been changed.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Mar,24 07:51 other posts 
There are negatives of every power generation technology,
but only fossil fuels are the ones threatening humanity now.

Hydropower is the cheapest power generation technology we have.
Please do some research before you say something.
There's just one problem with it; climate change brings long periods of drought, which is creating problems for hydropower in many areas in the world.
That's one of the reasons for China is doing more coal power now. Record-breaking drought has caused some rivers in China, including parts of the Yangtze, to dry up, affecting hydropower.

You're not sticks in the mud to me, you're roadblocks on the way to progress.
Your road leads to a canyon, but like Thelma and Louise, you're speeding ahead.
But, it's not just you in that car, it's the sensible people too. And that's not fair.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Mar,24 12:31 other posts 
fossil fuels have brought alot of prosperity to the world. without them, you would not be living the good life you are now.
how can solar or hydro bring large cargo ship loads of goods to your country from ours or vice versa? it takes fossil fuels.
electric mining equipment, works but the electricity comes from somewhere. The amperage needed for 1 excavator digging out material for battery's would be far more than a windmill could make.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 14,Mar,24 07:11 other posts 
That's true and now fossil fuels are destroying humanity and that prosperity.
We either find a solution to prevent the worst of it or die off.

I have told you about technologies before that can power large cargo ships
on solar, hydro, bio or wind power. Understand that about 40% of the mass transported with those ships consists of fossil fuels. And maybe we could ship
a bit less shit from China?

If combustion engines are indispensable for a certain task, then they can run on hydrogen, alcohol or bio-fuel. The problem is however never the combustion engine itself, because electric motors are much stronger for their size. It's indeed the energy storage that is the problem. However, energy storage is not limited to batteries. There are several chemical solutions to efficiently store energy in a liquid or solid, with high density, which can easily be refilled in a short time, just like tanking fossil fuels. Electric energy storage also gets better by the day. High capacity capacitors can be recharged with many times the speed of batteries. At the moment they can hold a bit less energy than batteries, but it's the time unit of charging per time unit of operation that counts. A minute of charging for an hour of operation is acceptable. We do not have to kill humanity to avoid that minor inconvenience.
No, they will stick to their story, no matter what, just like flat earthers.
But, I like seeing them squirm and bend into impossible positions,
trying to defend their illogical ideas. And, it might help other people.
By CAT [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 09:38 other posts 
Are you, Aliceinwonder, one of those that believes that over 90% of scientists are lying through their teeth about climate change so that they can get funding for their research?
If you are then tell us what the “lies” are and if you are right, what do you think they do with that funding? You think they buy high priced cars and mansions?
More to the point, do you think funding sources just give funds on the word of a scientist? What happens when the funding runs out and there are no results?
I agree with you. It’s sad that when there’s no factual argument to the matter at hand, the first thing that happens is that the messenger is shot. 👿
By phart [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 10:09 other posts 
obama must not believe the global warming hoax,he recently bought a beach front property.
By CAT [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 10:47 other posts 
Why do you still bring in the Obamas into this discussion? Besides, if their home sits over four feet of elevation, nothing will affect them for a long time. We can't change what has happened. We just have to adapt
By phart [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 12:37 other posts 
he is 1 of your democrat idols. if he jumped off the empire state building ,millions would follow. and he is in his 3rd term now,using biden as his mouth piece and pen holder.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 21:42 other posts 
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" 'You know what, if I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in, a front-man or a front-woman and they had an ear piece in and I was just in my basement with my sweats looking through the stuff and I could sort of deliver the lines, but somebody else was doing all the talking and ceremony"

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By CAT [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 20:48 other posts 
Where does it stop?
By phart [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 21:51 other posts 
when the bullshit stops and the American consumer can buy what they WANT with their own money and we can have honest elections and when people stop hating each other just because they disagree.
By CAT [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 11:32 other posts 
When were you able to buy whatever you wanted? I didn’t know you are a multi-millionaire.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 13:07 other posts 
You know what i mean.
If I want a gas car,I go buy what I can afford.If I want a electric, i am shit out of luck unless I find alot of money.BUT money is the only obstacle from getting what I choose.
Making laws telling me regardless of my income I can't have a choice,that is the issue.
By CAT [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 19:51 other posts 
Why? Can you go out and buy prescription drugs without a script? Can you choose to not pay taxes?
By phart [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 22:38 other posts 
-homeless people don't pay taxes, You can go to the streets in town and ask around and get any pill you want.Which I don't do. but it is possiable.
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 12:17 other posts 
Phart, what does homeless people have to do with this conversation?
By phart [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 19:43 other posts 
You ask if i could get pills without a scrip,I told you how you could.
By CAT [Ignore] 28,Mar,24 23:38 other posts 
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that a prescription that cost almost nothing in a drugstore would not be offered by a dealer
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 12:27 other posts 
Phart, what does the availability of prescription drugs on the black market have to do with this conversation?
I bet you couldn’t find anyone selling prescription drugs for psoriasis, and, by the way, if you don’t work, you don’t have to pay taxes. You don’t even have to file. The taxes you are referring to is called INCOME TAXES. NO WORKEE, NO INCOME.
All other taxes are from POS transactions like gas or liquor. If they are homeless, they don’t pay PROPERTY taxes.
But, again, what does it have to do with this conversation? You implied the federal government is restricting your access to certain goods. Did you complain when the Feds restricted vehicles that didn’t conform to epa Regis like catalytic converters?
By phart [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 19:44 other posts 
Hell yes and I still complain and most of the shit I own doesn't comply!
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Mar,24 00:08 other posts 
Then, my friend, you are a LAWBREAKER.🤣🤣😈❤️
By phart [Ignore] 26,Mar,24 12:02 other posts 
oh by the way, 8 more states are looking at gas car sales bans.,how many will that make, 12? Hows that freedom when you can't even buy a car to travel to grandma's 3 states away that doesn't require hotel stays for the car to charge?
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 12:28 other posts 
They are restricting sales in their jurisdiction. Buy it in another jurisdiction.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 19:44 other posts 
How long before there are no more jurisdictions? and whois to say you would be allowed to register in your own?
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Mar,24 00:10 other posts 
What if, what if. No, baby, I don't buy it.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 21:55 other posts 
oh yea, I bought a pack of the "I did that " biden stickers. I aint put them on gas pumps and such myself but i got them for a novelty and have give some to friends to use as they see fit,they have this same image of biden,
I would like to know what was going on when that pic was took. he just looks so confused, dumbfounded.it's like he was watching paint dry while high on mushrooms or something
By CAT [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 13:17 other posts 
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 14:20 other posts 
Sorry, CAT, but that comes a little too close to reality, to be funny.
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 12:32 other posts 
True, Ananas, this is not supposed to be funny.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 17:29 other posts 
wrong face on it, needs to be obama's since he is the 1 talking in bidens ear pieces.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Mar,24 11:11 other posts 
Who is talking about wanting to be a dictator?
Who is using literal Nazi rhetoric, calling people animals and vermin?
It's Trump.

Your argument is ridiculous. Everything that Obama did was democratic and everything he ever said was well-considered and decent. He was the hardest working president you ever had, tried to cooperate with the other side to the absurd and did everything to improve your country. Obama is a good man. Don't lower him to the level of your selfish piece of shit, treasonous, raping, racist, fascist, wannabe dictator.
Obama has the money to waste. That property will last the remainder of his life.
In the meantime he can enjoy it.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 18:27 other posts 
and just where did "Chef where are Thee" get that kind of money,? with the presidents salary being around 42,000 a year?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 18:28 other posts 
The president makes $400,000 a year, and has an expense allowance of $50,000.
Who told you the president makes only $42,000 per year?
That would be stupid. That's asking for corruption.

He gets a speaking fee of a million per gig.
Well, $400,000 now. The million was just after he was president.
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Then he has his book sales. And he was a millionaire before he was president.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 20:48 other posts 
oops, I had heard that number and must admit I didn't research it.
I can't see anything he says being worth a million,nor TRump for that matter
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Mar,24 05:49 other posts 
Me neither, but that's capitalism, so you should like it.
If there is a market for you speaking, then you can ask
whatever price the rules of supply and demand support.

Actually, as a socialist, I see no problem with getting rich that way.
No one is exploiting anyone else's labor that way.
If people feel they get their money's worth, that's an honest exchange.
Pay your taxes, and whatever wealth remains is yours.
It's honest money, so that shouldn't be taxed crazy high.
I want to tax the lazy fuckers who profit off other people's work.

Jamie Oliver's fee also ranged from $100,000 - $1,000,000.
I would pay good money to see him, just not what he is asking.
But, I'm paying good money to see several big performances this year.
By Aliceinwonder [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 10:12 other posts 
If I were, why would I start with the word "sadly"?
By CAT [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 10:48 other posts 
You tell us.
By Aliceinwonder [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 12:51 other posts 
Sorry, I'm confused. Either you are misreading my exasperation at the boneheadedness of climate deniers, or you are making a point that I simply cannot grasp.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 14:32 other posts 
I am making that point that you can not grasp that the earth has been changing long before we got here and will be until the sun goes super nova
By Aliceinwonder [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 18:56 other posts 
I was replying to CAT.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Mar,24 21:28 other posts 
By CAT [Ignore] 22,Mar,24 20:50 other posts 
My mistake, Aliceinwonder, I went back to your post and I realized I read it wrong. Sorry.
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By phart [Ignore] 27,Mar,24 11:08 other posts 
OK Experts, give me a good answer for this 1.
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4000 acres of BUSTED solar panels, leaking chemicals into everyone's ground water that the cows, people,everyone drinks.
So how is this better than some smoke from burning coal or oil??


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