If guilty,yes,good.
BUT please,help me out here.How do you prove sex abuse from the 40's,and 50's today?
it is all words,hearsay.No evidence other than word of mouth. How can you prove guilt???
thanks, I don't feel like I am the only 1 wondering how that works. I know the Boy Scouts had to go bank rupt over stuff that was said to have happened in the 70's and since a couple family members were a part of the boy scout program they were left wondering how,who,why? as for them it was a great program that helped their son tremendously.
You are so right- not often that I say that to you - proving 'historic guilt' is incredibly difficult. Which is why so many of these cases when investigated tend not to lead to any criminal action.
We should not downplay the seriousness of this issue and approach the allegations with an open mind but getting proof that will stand up in court is incredibly difficult and people's memories are flawed, although not intentionally.
Historic abuse of children by 'the church', educational institutions and local organizations is not fantasy but sadly a very dark truth.
Alarmingly we are regularly uncovering systematic abuse of young people still being carried out today !!!
You are correct in that the legit cases of sexual abuse should not be downplayed but investigated and the perverts punished in such a way they don't want to repeat it.
I think many people feel sexual abuse goes unpunished but after such a long period of time,even the strongest of evidence is weak at best.
And as in the case of bill clintons interaction with Monica, not really abuse but still yet,she had the dress with his "markings" on it and he still remained president. So even dried up evidence is not enough!
Hmmmmm......I find this reported statement kinda confusing;
"The Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador has approved the sale of 42 properties belonging to the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of St. John's, including 12 churches, as dozens more church property sales loom across eastern Newfoundland."
Is the sale of 42 Catholic church properties only meant to settle abuse victims claims in Newfoundland? Also, I thought that all churches, properties, holdings, etc., were wholly owned by the Vatican.
And who is going to buy those big cathedrals? I mean,really? what the heck would you do with 1? I feel sure some are historic structures and would be a lot of legal wrangling to tear down for a new Waffle house.
At the end of the day... Abuse needs to stop regardless of the richest community (Catholicism) or Joe blow down the road. Abuse Wether it's physical, mental , Abuse is still spelt the same..The consequences of betrayal or just fuckin abuse is not factored into ANY economy. No money will fix the atrocities that has happened.
kebmo, what amount of money did the Canadian government payout to the First Nation people, victims of abuse and residential school scandal, do you know?
1 shot fired.
outside the club.Saw it on the news.
Nothing to really report, as this happens all the time in that city. It was happening long before blm ever came along to help make it alright to do it
The Secret History of the Credit Card was originally aired by PBS in 2004 regardless, is very interesting. If you have a 55 minute lull in your day, watch it.
I believe the Inside Edition narrative said something about her looking "frail" in the May video of her stroll and I would have to agree, she looked frail. Heck, Queen Elizabeth II looks more peppy when she's on a stroll and is 20+ years Ivana's senior.
Were you able to view the video? Ivana looked rough two months ago in May. The Inside Edition video says Ivana purchased the 4 story townhouse in 1992 after her divorce from Donald. I dunno, doesn't seem like falling down stairs should be a cause of death unless you fell down 4 flights of stairs. Heck, at 73 years old she might expect to receive a broken wrist, foot OR leg, but death?
Yeah, I suppose if you are 73 and are at the top of the stairs on the second floor and you fall and tumble down to the first floor 18 or 20 steps) that stairs can kill. I would like to think that if it involved 3 or 4 steps it wouldn't be fatal.
Okay, need I remind you that when President Biden ascended the steps of Airforce 1, there wasn't a fatality.
I still don't get it. How did she get a blunt force to the TORSO??
I can see her legs being broken, or head trauma but, torso?
If you watched biden fall UP those stairs you will notice his torso is not in jeopardy.
edit, yea,I am right to be curious,
no real indication that torso injurys are common in stair falls.
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Just learned about the shooting on Sunday at Greenwood Mall in Indiana. A 20 year old "man" armed with a rifle, shot and killed 3 people in the mall's food court. The shooter was then shot and killed by a bystander, a man who was legally in possession of a firearm.
Hahahhahaaa, poor bastards, now the northern states are getting a small taste of what the border states have been dealing with for going on 2 years.And they don't like it. Bunch of wimps,you want open borders,cough it up bitches.
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I don't normally feel the need to advertise that I was blacklisted however I was just blacklisted by Nashville42 who apparently is really a weak, weak man.
Nashville42 authored a thread requesting helpful tips or criteria used when verifying members, here's the thread;
What I found interesting is that he was verified by 5 members, badboy666 , xmarco , Ex__4 , Jamie and Michelle but got the vibe that the 5 folks that verified him were not thorough enough, I mean why else would you seek further help from the general membership?
Moving along...the best I can recall is that I initially said I would never consider verifying anyone that I hadn't interacted with. Also I said that I would not consider verifying a SYD profile if the man was posting pictures of women without verifying the woman or women as well.
I was curious why he sought the assistance of only 1 of his friends for verification and his response was that the others were probably friends at one time but if they don't interact he will delete them from his friend list. *Is it me or does anyone else think that that is strange? The 'ol we are no longer friends but will you do me a favor and verify me ruse. Apparently that didn't sit well with him and he responded by saying that my post had a "hostile tone" and I best I recall is that it wasn't my intention, I was just keeping it real.
Bottom line, he deleted all my posts and when I sent him a private message to inquire why, he said two things however the only one I remember was that he accepted my apology. I did follow up with another PM saying that I felt that his action of deleting my posts spoke loudly of him and his character. BOOM!, that's when I was blacklisted.
The liberal mind is so messed up, they are so out of touch and unaware of what's going on in our country, what makes you think they're gonna know they are cuckoo? I rest my case.
Yes I'm asking you,if liberal thinking is cuckoo what does that make you for being on a sex site talking politics!!! I'm pretty sure the conservatives that are religious would look at this site with disgust!!! So it's a funny juxtaposition don't you think? Talking conservative politics on a sex site!!
I am conservative but I rarely talk politics here or anywhere for that matter and for the record, I go to church. My sister and I have discussed politics but I don't talk politics with her ultra liberal sons.
The question that phart posed was really not a political question and I merely stated my opinion that many of the liberal wack-jobs don't realize they are fucked up so it probably won't matter if the telehone number is 10 digits or 3 digits OR who the President was that signed the 3 digit number into law.
Phart is political, everyone is political,when people say they don't discuss politics, it's not really true is it? everything is political!!!!
Human rights are political by nature!!! The art of governance is politics...... everything is politics!!!!!
Dig down far enough into any subject and it becomes political!!!
Phart phrased his comment in a way that says he doesn't expect anything from liberals....so he made it political by adding that!!!
Price of petrol/gas is what ? Politics!!!gun control!!! Politics!!!!
Wack jobs don't know they are wack jobs and they are everywhere,on all sides of the political spectrum.
chatting with people like you is a window into a world I am so thankful I don't live directly in.
chatting with you and that leo, sheesh,I had no idea before I came here just how fucked up this world really was and being here has clued me as to how it got this way.
So is it coocoo to talk politics here? No. It would be coocoo to not talk about it.it affects our everyday lives.
As for the way I made the comment above, good reason for it, Liberals hate Trump so bad, i figured anything he did they would find a reason to hate, just for spite.
to many digits, or he made it 3 digits because he thinks we are to dumb to remember 4. shit like that.
And you clearly don't read what I post!!!
Read what I said to Bella!!!
And you live in constant fear cuz you're a sheep!!!!
Doom scrolling is bad for your health phart!!!
So if you avoid something you are likely to be afraid of it!!!! Why do you avoid a situation ?why do you avoid going to a certain place?
So if I said I avoid going to America cuz of guns? What's your first thought? I bet it is that you think I'm afraid of guns !!!!
I avoid going to the big city because I can see the crime rate is high there. I avoid going to the big mall because, again, I see the crime on tv that happens there .And I don't need or want to be a part of it or a victim.
I don't have to be "afraid" if I use common sense and just avoid the situation entirely. If you chose not to come to America because of guns, then you don't need to be "afraid" of the guns because you are never near them.
I avoid concerts, because of the drugs and drinking, I am not "afraid" of it so to speak ,I just don't like being around it at all.
why not? I have never been shot at,I have not been robbed,yet.
I have not caught wuhan ,or monkey pox.Only drove under the influence 1 time in my life,and it was because of a cold medicine .I don't take that shit any more to avoid that.
"That's no way to live" Some of us DO live that way. Phart, I know likely lives in a rural area, but I love how he thinks. No, don't go to the big cities or malls etc. That's just smart common sense! --------------------------------------- added after 2 minutes
Oh & it must be nice to live in a decent area/city/state/wherever
I avoid spiders because I am afraid of spiders. I'm so glad my family never relocated to Australia, have you ever seen the size of spiders there? Golly, spiders are the size if men's hands!
Traveling scares the crap outta me because I'm afraid of getting lost! Did I ever mention that on my last trip to Europe at the end of 2018, I had hurt my right knee prior to departure and was instructed to board a golf cart with people that didn't speak English and I couldn't speak Spanish. I was fricken dropped off at baggage claim and grabbed my luggage as well as my travel companions. I waited for approximately 40 to 50 minutes waiting for someone to recognize I was missing and finally the trip coordinator found me. I'm glad that I didn't piss myself.
I can understand the spiders,I never used to worry about them until I was bitten by one and it drew bl00d, little fucker!!!
Aussie spiders are next level crazy!!!!
Google translate will save you next time you get carted off somewhere
On a rational level, I do NOT understand why I have a fear of spiders, aside from Australian spiders, I'm a thousand times bigger and I can run faster, I think. As far as the fear of getting lost, I'm not sure where that came from. It's not like my parents drove me somewhere and booted me out of the car and expected me to find my way home. Gosh, those are my two biggest fears but and I'm not sure why spiders and getting lost can raise my anxiety level. You're not going to charge me for a medical consultation, are you?
Traveling can be scary.If you lost your id, say you were robbed. you would just be a babbling idiot to someone in another country.
Spiders, eh, a friend of mine that cuts firewood and sells it to city slickers for big money, gets spider bit often because they hide inside logs and stuff. The bites are severe enough to leave literal holes where the bite was. Brown recluse bite I think does that.
Been there, parked up my bike in Italy city on holiday, went wandering and realized after a while that i didn´t know where said bike was, where I was and didn´t even have a fucking map. Duh. Didn´t speak the language either. Ended up doing the "Lost in the Woods" number with one square box of one street, then one box of two streets etc. Took hours and was not nice. No mobile phones either in those days, so no Google.
I was scared of driving into unknown cities, getting lost etc until satnavs were invented. These are a Godsend to the non-locals!
Spiders: ye won´t like my house pet. But she´s from Texas and isn´t aggressive. And also in a big heavy glass terrarium. None of that stuff of walking on my hand or face, neither good for her or me
It's ok ,you will be ok. just take 2 aspirin and call us in the morning.
And you can always trade that liberal mind in for a upgrade. There is hope,as long as you are alive to learn and improve yourself.
did your gps screw up yet?
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BUT please,help me out here.How do you prove sex abuse from the 40's,and 50's today?
it is all words,hearsay.No evidence other than word of mouth. How can you prove guilt???
We should not downplay the seriousness of this issue and approach the allegations with an open mind but getting proof that will stand up in court is incredibly difficult and people's memories are flawed, although not intentionally.
Historic abuse of children by 'the church', educational institutions and local organizations is not fantasy but sadly a very dark truth.
Alarmingly we are regularly uncovering systematic abuse of young people still being carried out today !!!
I think many people feel sexual abuse goes unpunished but after such a long period of time,even the strongest of evidence is weak at best.
And as in the case of bill clintons interaction with Monica, not really abuse but still yet,she had the dress with his "markings" on it and he still remained president. So even dried up evidence is not enough!
"The Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador has approved the sale of 42 properties belonging to the Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of St. John's, including 12 churches, as dozens more church property sales loom across eastern Newfoundland."
Is the sale of 42 Catholic church properties only meant to settle abuse victims claims in Newfoundland? Also, I thought that all churches, properties, holdings, etc., were wholly owned by the Vatican.
Another shooting. Ho hum
outside the club.Saw it on the news.
Nothing to really report, as this happens all the time in that city. It was happening long before blm ever came along to help make it alright to do it
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No details other than blunt force trauma to the torso from what i read elsewhere.
Okay, need I remind you that when President Biden ascended the steps of Airforce 1, there wasn't a fatality.
I can see her legs being broken, or head trauma but, torso?
If you watched biden fall UP those stairs you will notice his torso is not in jeopardy.
edit, yea,I am right to be curious,
no real indication that torso injurys are common in stair falls.
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I guess it would have been best to allow more innocents to be killed?
When will people wise up?
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Wtf have you been doing Sir-Skittles ?
Nashville42 authored a thread requesting helpful tips or criteria used when verifying members, here's the thread;
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What I found interesting is that he was verified by 5 members, badboy666 , xmarco , Ex__4 , Jamie and Michelle but got the vibe that the 5 folks that verified him were not thorough enough, I mean why else would you seek further help from the general membership?
Moving along...the best I can recall is that I initially said I would never consider verifying anyone that I hadn't interacted with. Also I said that I would not consider verifying a SYD profile if the man was posting pictures of women without verifying the woman or women as well.
I was curious why he sought the assistance of only 1 of his friends for verification and his response was that the others were probably friends at one time but if they don't interact he will delete them from his friend list. *Is it me or does anyone else think that that is strange? The 'ol we are no longer friends but will you do me a favor and verify me ruse. Apparently that didn't sit well with him and he responded by saying that my post had a "hostile tone" and I best I recall is that it wasn't my intention, I was just keeping it real.
Bottom line, he deleted all my posts and when I sent him a private message to inquire why, he said two things however the only one I remember was that he accepted my apology. I did follow up with another PM saying that I felt that his action of deleting my posts spoke loudly of him and his character. BOOM!, that's when I was blacklisted.
Have a mental issue,call 988 instead of 911.
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The question that phart posed was really not a political question and I merely stated my opinion that many of the liberal wack-jobs don't realize they are fucked up so it probably won't matter if the telehone number is 10 digits or 3 digits OR who the President was that signed the 3 digit number into law.
Human rights are political by nature!!! The art of governance is politics...... everything is politics!!!!!
Dig down far enough into any subject and it becomes political!!!
Phart phrased his comment in a way that says he doesn't expect anything from liberals....so he made it political by adding that!!!
Price of petrol/gas is what ? Politics!!!gun control!!! Politics!!!!
Wack jobs don't know they are wack jobs and they are everywhere,on all sides of the political spectrum.
chatting with you and that leo, sheesh,I had no idea before I came here just how fucked up this world really was and being here has clued me as to how it got this way.
So is it coocoo to talk politics here? No. It would be coocoo to not talk about it.it affects our everyday lives.
As for the way I made the comment above, good reason for it, Liberals hate Trump so bad, i figured anything he did they would find a reason to hate, just for spite.
to many digits, or he made it 3 digits because he thinks we are to dumb to remember 4. shit like that.
Read what I said to Bella!!!
And you live in constant fear cuz you're a sheep!!!!
Doom scrolling is bad for your health phart!!!
So if I said I avoid going to America cuz of guns? What's your first thought? I bet it is that you think I'm afraid of guns !!!!
I don't have to be "afraid" if I use common sense and just avoid the situation entirely. If you chose not to come to America because of guns, then you don't need to be "afraid" of the guns because you are never near them.
I avoid concerts, because of the drugs and drinking, I am not "afraid" of it so to speak ,I just don't like being around it at all.
I have not caught wuhan ,or monkey pox.Only drove under the influence 1 time in my life,and it was because of a cold medicine .I don't take that shit any more to avoid that.
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Oh & it must be nice to live in a decent area/city/state/wherever
Traveling scares the crap outta me because I'm afraid of getting lost! Did I ever mention that on my last trip to Europe at the end of 2018, I had hurt my right knee prior to departure and was instructed to board a golf cart with people that didn't speak English and I couldn't speak Spanish. I was fricken dropped off at baggage claim and grabbed my luggage as well as my travel companions. I waited for approximately 40 to 50 minutes waiting for someone to recognize I was missing and finally the trip coordinator found me. I'm glad that I didn't piss myself.
Aussie spiders are next level crazy!!!!
Google translate will save you next time you get carted off somewhere
Spiders, eh, a friend of mine that cuts firewood and sells it to city slickers for big money, gets spider bit often because they hide inside logs and stuff. The bites are severe enough to leave literal holes where the bite was. Brown recluse bite I think does that.
I was scared of driving into unknown cities, getting lost etc until satnavs were invented. These are a Godsend to the non-locals!
Spiders: ye won´t like my house pet. But she´s from Texas and isn´t aggressive. And also in a big heavy glass terrarium. None of that stuff of walking on my hand or face, neither good for her or me
biggg, can you post a picture of your spider, please?
And you can always trade that liberal mind in for a upgrade. There is hope,as long as you are alive to learn and improve yourself.
I hope so.
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