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Black lives matter or do All lives matter...༼☯﹏☯༽

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Just looking for opinions...Please no fights...༼☯﹏☯༽

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By phart [Ignore] 27,Nov,23 13:57 other posts 
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By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Nov,23 03:28 other posts 
Jew lives matter also. Palestinians should of thought about that phrase before electing Hamas. Yes, I know 44% is not a majority but close. It counts in the US too, or joey would not be president.


By tecsan [Ignore] 16,Nov,23 00:11 other posts 
BLM needs your money.


By #700631 01,Nov,23 09:57
Are we talking about the organisation Black Lives Matter here or the sentiment "black lives matter"?

If it's the former, I have no knowledge or opinion about the organisation. But "All Lives Matter" is not an organisation, so if it is the former, the question doesn't really make sense.

If it's the latter, the saying clearly means "black lives matter as much as white lives". Does anyone here disagree with this sentiment?
By #681164 01,Nov,23 11:12
Your statement is correct. I would change it slightly. Black lives matter as much as any other race or ethnic group. The question’s ending is “do all lives matter”.


By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 08:24 other posts 
Dgraff used to get poked by a young Puerto Rican guy. Now, his new wife PEGS him.🤣🤣😈
By dgraff [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 10:00 other posts 
I bet you got your husband many of ass beatings over the years because you just don’t know when to keep your big mouth shut 🤐 miss I’m more important than any one else
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 10:04 other posts 
I bet you got your wife (sic) many of ass beatings over the years because you just don’t know when to keep your big sissy mouth shut 🤐 Mr, I’m more important than you.
Dgraff, remember, you started this.👿
By phart [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 10:11 other posts 
Well it don't have to continue.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 10:16 other posts 
I’m not the “better man” here. HAHAHA.🤣🤣🤣😈
By phart [Ignore] 25,Oct,23 09:35 other posts 
Well you are a woman but that does not mean you can't take the high road. focus some of this anger to fixing a real problem
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 25,Oct,23 10:03 other posts 
It’s not a “either this problem or that problem”. I can “Bring home the bacon, cook it in a pan, and never, never forget. I’m a woman”


By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Sep,23 01:21 other posts 
Please donate to BLM. We need more libs to waste their money.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Sep,23 14:31 other posts 
eh, I would rather roll my money up and shove it up a bulls ass than to give that bunch of domestic terrorist the time of day.
By tecsan [Ignore] 22,Sep,23 04:53 other posts 
Damn, you really dislike that blm crap as much as me. However, I think I will stay clear of the bull. Them critters will kill you.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Sep,23 12:22 other posts 
Neighbors bull is shoulder height with me and docile as a lamb. feed him cabbage and stuff from my hand.
By tecsan [Ignore] 23,Sep,23 01:12 other posts 
Take your word for it until I see you feeding it.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Sep,23 11:03 other posts 
cows are not violent animals. unless you mess with their calves, same as any parent.
By tecsan [Ignore] 23,Sep,23 21:00 other posts 
I thought we were talking about bulls.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Sep,23 22:14 other posts 
Well cows,oops the female. Perhaps I should just say Bovines?
By tecsan [Ignore] 25,Sep,23 02:02 other posts 
Ok, very funny.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 22,Oct,23 11:39 other posts 
🤣🤣🤣
I think Trump needs it more right now.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Sep,23 21:20 other posts 
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 04:47 other posts 
Just the title by itself shows incredible bias, not real journalism.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 11:08 other posts 
BUT it gets the point across.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 12:56 other posts 
Sure, you want your propaganda to be effective.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 17:34 other posts 
blm is not a good organization, if anything good is said of them,that would be the propaganda. They took millions of dollars in donations and bought houses for themselves and never helped the familys of the fallen blacks they staged riots and burned and looted over.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Oct,23 04:15 other posts 
If there was a better organization who supported the goals,
then everyone would surely be happy to support it.

Here's a novel idea; implement the goals.
Why does it require endless protesting to do something?
Are the riots not just a justification for you to say 'fuck you!'?

Are the demands so outrageous?
Or is it now just stubbornness, to not 'give THEM anything'?
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 22,Oct,23 11:42 other posts 
I think Blacks should start an organization where the members wear black robes and hoods, burn black tarred crosses in yards and open fields and have chapters in different cities. Make it guns optional but recommended. 🤣🤣😈
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 06:41 other posts 
Except for the burning of tarred crosses, you come close to describing
The Black Panthers, I think. Black clothes, different kind of 'hoods',
but also very much supporting the 2nd amendment.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 08:24 other posts 
👍👍


By tecsan [Ignore] 09,Sep,23 00:44 other posts 
One for all to enjoy and comment.

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It said you must sign in to view this video no thanks


By phart [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 00:19 other posts 
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Cheating wife, hung her self instead of taking responsibility.
DUH.


By tecsan [Ignore] 28,Sep,23 04:01 other posts 
Bidenomics or BLMomics. Whow, he is an arrogant racist sob.

Not to mention has no ethics either.

I guess if it makes a 'buck' then it is fair to the *%*#@!& party.

Where the hell is 'cornpop' when we need him?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Aug,23 05:22 other posts 
Billionaires Secretly Funding Racism EXPOSED
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The writer of the book focused on just 10 billionaires, donating to 50 organizations, that were instrumental in pushing an agenda of institutionalized racism and crushing the public school system. That was 3.2 billion dollars that he was able to trace.

Why do wealthy people want to crush public schools?
Are they thinking private schools are better?
Are they just not willing to pay taxes for public schools?
Are they against poor people getting a good education?
Are they not dependent on smart people working for their companies?
Are they against American being smart, to understand how they get screwed?
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Aug,23 23:00 other posts 
George Soros funding DA's that support no bail and the opposite if the violator is a Republican.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Aug,23 10:45 other posts 
So you really think Soros has the time to follow all legal cases?
That's of course nonsense. Billionaires fund organizations and politicians
they agree with and then they go do the work for them.
Mostly it comes down to legislation and funding decisions.
Shutting down schools in black areas hurts black people, but you too.
Do you prefer black people to be educated or turn into criminals?

The president appoints the judges. Trump appoints his 'beautiful conservative' corporate minded judges and Biden appoints a bit more liberal judges.
If you are in a legal dispute against some company that is crushing you,
you can be sure you want one of Biden's judges, because any of Trump's judges
will always speak out in favor of any company over any working class civilian,
no matter how much the law agrees with you.
By tecsan [Ignore] 22,Aug,23 22:59 other posts 
Criminal, I will take mr magoo's appointee, NO BAIL.

Civil, I will take the Trump appointee, atleast they have common sense and know the difference between a man and a woman.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Aug,23 06:29 other posts 
Depends what crime you committed, to be better off with a Trump appointee or a Biden appointee. If you stole a car, better get the Biden appointee. If you are rich and defrauded poor people or the tax-payer, better get the Trump appointee.

If you think you can win in civil court against a company that screwed you, out of money or your house or your health, with a Trump appointee, you're very much confused.
But, you might think of getting sued by someone you discriminated, sure then you are better off with a Trump appointee.
They indeed prioritize your kind of 'common sense' over the actual LAW.
By tecsan [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 04:05 other posts 
Think about what you just said Ananas2xLekker

Talk about defrauding the poor tax paying people, what do you consider witholding millions unless you comply with my demands. Son of a bitch, you are a disgraceful biden.

It takes a sorry son of a bitch to ignore his own grand
daughter. What a moron.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 06:39 other posts 
"witholding millions unless you comply with my demands"
Can you clarify what you are talking about?
Are you referring to Trump, withholding congressionally approved military aid
to Ukraine, to help himself, which is actually against the law?

When your son hasn't acknowledged his daughter yet, any father would wait until his son is ready to come out with it.
When you are the president, you first wait for evidence.
There are always people that try to discredit their family.
Now the evidence is in and Hunter accepted it, Joe does too.
By tecsan [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 23:32 other posts 
Ananas2xLekker you damn well know what I am talking about, now stop playing dumb. Atleast I do not think you are dumb.

Biden with-holding tax payer money from Ukraine until a prosecutor is fired. Hell, everyone here can see it, I guess you are playing the part of the ostrich.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Aug,23 10:37 other posts 
That has been already debunked in 2020.
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But, if there is evidence Biden broke the law, present it to the courts and wait until after his presidency to start the indictments. It's your own site that claims that the law cannot indict a sitting president.
Or indict and try to convict Biden now, so he can pardon himself, which is what your side thinks a president should be able to do.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 09:26 other posts 
soros has a large organization that takes care of things for him.He has put his ill gotten fortune into it to insure it is a cancerous tumor on the earth long after his old ass is dead and gone.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 06:49 other posts 
"his ill gotten fortune" I agree, but you only care about his "ill gotten fortune" because he's a donor to the Democrats. Any Republican donor who does the same or worse, you think is a smart businessman. That's what you also said about that twice impeached, four times indicted, failed president of yours, while he actually committed many crimes as a businessman. What Soros did (and probably still does) is immoral, but not illegal.
Does your media even tell you how your political candidates become so rich?
Or do they only care how much they suck up to Trump?

Vivek Ramasmarmy made his billion dollars by investing in and hyping a scam biotech pharmaceutical product. His company Roivant Sciences is described as having a "business strategy, which involves buying patents from pharmaceutical companies, further developing the patented drugs, and bringing the finished drugs to market.".
I know how that works. Those companies are developing shit. They are just gaining the system, taking government funded ideas for pharmaceuticals and then hyping them, marketing them, and then walk away with billions. Sometimes those drugs are useful, but most newly developed drugs fail their clinical trials.
Companies like his', take billions of tax-dollars and more billions of the industry, only making the development of drugs more expensive for the tax-payer and the final products more expensive for patients.
He bought up the Alzheimer’s treatment Intepirdine, developed by the biotech startup Axovant Sciences, raised $315 million, before starting clinical trials, probably for a large part from Alzheimer's Foundation donations, ballooned the business value to
$3 billion, then sold his shares, and then the drug failed the trials. He's just a leech.

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By phart [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 11:28 other posts 
Not his fault it failed the trials, and what was the reason for the failure?
Alot of liberals make money shitting people, He at least made his money doing something.
you call it hyping, most Entrepeneur's call it promoting. That is what investors do ,that is how our retirement systems are funded, by investments.
What has biden done besides be a career politician and a life guard that had little girls rub the hair on his legs?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:38 other posts 
His fault is making money from hyping it.
I also condemn liberals when they make money by scamming people,
you just condemn liberals when they do something immoral,
but you defend any right-winger, no matter what they do.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 16:48 other posts 
It's not hypeing, it's PROMOTION. It is what is done in advertising everything from prostitutes to jet airplanes, if you are trying to sell your service or your product you promote it.
Why aren't you condemning Soro's? He bankrupted nations for crying out loud,

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Why has George Soros purchased news outlets throughout America? Living in Hungary during WWII, he learned controlling the media controls the people.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,23 08:32 other posts 
PROMOTION of pharmaceuticals is BULLSHIT. When a pharmaceutical product works, you inform doctors and they will subscribe it to the patients that need them.

Guys like Ramasmarmy are just jacking up the price of the process.
Just like land speculators, profiting over what should be public capital.

The research and development of new medical treatments is mostly publicly funded, but that is turned into private profits for scammers like Ramasmarmy
and his ilk, who don't contribute anything. It's just socialism for the rich.

I think we agree that we don't want parasites profiting of taxes.
However, your get indoctrinated to think it's the 'obese milkin' welfare',
to distract you that guys like Ramasmarmy make billions of your tax-dollars
and charity donations, without doing anything useful.
By tecsan [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 01:46 other posts 
You know what would be nice Ananas2xLekker is if the media would tell us how sleepy uncle joey became so rich.

It has been exposed for the corrupt person it is.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:35 other posts 
Most any politician seems to become rich when they go in.
BUT AOC for example, claims to only been a bartender before getting her position. I would say she probably fucked her way to where she is,She is not hard to look at until she starts talking.
Alot of others are so rich,way to rich to be getting that way off their salary's alone.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:40 other posts 
AOC was helped into politics by the Justice Democrats.
They saw her as a political talent and pulled her in.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 16:52 other posts 
They must have been drunk and looking thru the beer bottle with a hard on.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Sep,23 11:29 other posts 
The way you lot are so concerned about her, proves she was a great choice.
By phart [Ignore] 05,Sep,23 13:23 other posts 
Our concern is because she is to fucking dumb to be where she is.Regardless of party.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 11:44 other posts 
Dumb? Your party has Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert!!
Lauren Boebert literally was a prostitute!
By phart [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 12:03 other posts 
well if boeboert was a prostitute, that means she can sell, what you should be able to get for free, so good business sense,
Greene, I am just glad she is republican and not democrat,they would put her for president!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Sep,23 03:58 other posts 
Hypocrisy just flies over you, doesn't it?
If it's a white woman who enriches herself through her political position,
who was literally a prostitute, then she has good business sense,
but if it's a woman of Mexican decent, who was identified as a strong debater,
and therefore got offered a political position, then she must be a prostitute,
because, to you, obviously she has no right to be in politics.

Republicans like them crazy, it's their brand now.
Most Democrats like weak losers. Only progressives liked AOC.
Because she is/was a working class fighter for the working class.
Something Republicans masquerade to care about, but always
get unmasked over.
By tecsan [Ignore] 03,Sep,23 21:23 other posts 
No doubt AOC whored her way into her position. Oops, I messed up, I do not know if it identifies as a she, a leaf or possibly a bitch.

You are so right about the talking part, that just shows the ugly nasty person it is. Remember it whining about not having enough money for rent. I bet there are millions of people that wished they had it's salary and benefits. Poor little thing has to live in poverty. It should resign and go back to being a poor bartender. Yeah, I mean poor, probably did not get many tips spewing it's BS.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 12:06 other posts 
IT?
The correct gender-neutral pronouns are they/them, thank you.

The only reason you have, to dislike her is that she makes a politician's income?
Why just her? All Democratic politicians make that income too.
And why not Republicans? They are not even satisfied with that income.
That's why they are all using their job to benefit themselves, by taking money from wealthy donors, stock trading with insider information, not abstaining themselves when they vote on laws that benefit their businesses, and blatantly introducing laws purely to benefit themselves.

So, is it just discrimination or also shitting on lower-class people?
It's like I'm listening to stuck-up billionaires, but you're all peasants to them.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Aug,23 09:53 other posts 
Private schooling simply gives the parents of the kids more control over what their child is exposed to. You don't hear of crt and sex change controversy in private schools as you do public.
Past time to ditch public schools, they don't work,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 05:19 other posts 
Your right, private schooling is for parents who want to indoctrinate their children
with their own ideas and don't want them exposed to any other ideas, but their own.
That's a SAFE SPACE! I thought you were against that?

Any parent who thinks that their ideas shouldn't be challenged, probably understands that their ideas are FRAGILE and any REASONING will destroy them.
If just the mentioning of racism and history of black people destroys your racism, than it is WEAK. Have some confidence that your racism will prevail.
If just the idea of gender, sexual identity and sexual orientation makes your kid doubt themselves, then they ARE NOT sis and/or heterosexual, as you want them to be.
They need your guidance to understand themselves, not your stupid oppression
of their feelings.

Sorry (not sorry), education is for the public benefit and it's not to the public benefit to fill the heads of your children with fragile ideas, that don't stand the scrutiny of REASON.
If you want to indoctrinate your children in private education, go ahead, but you're setting them up to fail in any occupation requiring REASON.

Also, private schooling is EXPENSIVE!
The whole idea of public schooling is to provide children from poor parents
with an education, so they can escape the poverty of their parents.
Find me any country that only has private schooling, that works.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 09:30 other posts 
Private school is for parents who do NOT want their kids indoctrinated by drag queens and idiots.
They simply want their kids to learn math, english, history, and etc.
The birds and the bee's talk is supposed to be with the father and the son, or the mother and the daughter ,not some man in a dress telling a boy he can get pregnant when a simple medical exam can prove that is not possible.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 10:43 other posts 
That is a fantasy right-wing talking point, for propaganda purposes.
It's not remotely true.

The 'birds and the bees' is a responsibility of education, because parents suck at doing that and pregnant teens and HIV are damaging to the general public.
Teachers are just providing knowledge, based on current science.
You are anti-knowledge and stuck at 1950's science and BS propaganda.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 12:27 other posts 
Since when did the education system decide it knows more than the parents? the pregnant teen thing is the fault of the liberal, had they not talked about sex and so forth to the young kids, curiosity would not have lead them that far naturally. The teachers teach about sex and get the kids riled up and wanting to try all this new stuff to quick.
The less they know at a young age, the less problem.
Don't you think kids would have been taught sex earlier on for many decades had it been a good idea? Their minds are not mature enough to even know what sex is.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Aug,23 13:15 other posts 
The education system didn't DECIDE it knows more than the parents, IT DOES!
Sorry to tell you, but Americans are horrible dumb and getting dumber.
The only way to provide any future for those kids, is compensating for the stupidity of their parents.

There is no age too young to start providing information about sex.
Of course, you keep it at their level and expand on it later.
You cannot teach biology without the 'basics', and biology starts in first grade
in The Netherlands. I read that in the US, biology starts in 8th grade.
I hope that's not true, but damn it would explain a lot.

Most kids learn to use a microscope in primary school these days. In my time, we didn't have them, but we had many classes about anatomy, the brain, cells, species and genes and even evolution, while it was a Christian School.
There was some sexual education too, but it was very prudish. They explained how it was done very shortly and focused on how the sperm fertilizes egg and then grows. Then they very quickly explained how the baby comes out.
I certainly didn't have any problems getting my head around it.
My parents showed a sexual education documentary on TV, when I was around 10 or something. I just remember it being very humiliating and learning absolutely nothing new.

At what age do you think children know how boys and girls are different?
Children discover that as soon as they see a diaper changed in kindergarten.
In my country, parents already explain some basics to their children when they are in the why, why, why phase, when they are 2 or 3. A toddler once told me, with a big smile: 'boys have a tollie, girls have a punani', which is more then I knew, because those are the Surinamese words for penis and vagina. I laughed with her parents, that I just got educated about sex, by a toddler.

Compare your teen pregnancy statistics with ours, and learn something.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 07:23 other posts 
Amen to that. I've been saying the same thing all along. Most of the citizens in this country are "functional illiterates", and those that have some education are, frequently, well versed in their field of study and are absolutely ignorant about everything else. TEACHERS DO KNOW MORE THAN PARENTS.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 11:49 other posts 
Most Americans read and write and do basic calculus. That's not the problem.
The problem is logical reasoning; understanding the cause of problems and understanding reasoning errors and fallacious argumentation. Because of that, Americans believe anything they are told by someone they trust and believe nothing, no matter how solid the arguments, from someone they distrust.
They only have to teach you to trust a specific group of people and then you
trust them and no one else, for life. That makes it very easy to con you.
Understand that the teaching of critical thinking skills is actively opposed,
by people who want you to trust them unconditionally, so they can keep lying
to you and keep taking advantage of you.
Many of the books that DeSantis banned in Florida taught critical thinking skills. Those books didn't contain any CRT or black history or transgender ideology or whatever else you think is woke, they just taught logical reasoning. Nothing is more important to be successful in life, than being able to understand the cause of a problem and think of a logical solution. It's also important to employers, if their employees are able to solve problems. BUT, those logical reasoning skills carry one big risk for the establishment; you will not believe their lies anymore. They cannot have that, so they structure your economy to work with monkeys, who work for peanuts, and reduce education to just teaching you some tricks.
By sherryann [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 18:00 other posts 
I agree with Ananas and CAT, American's are dumb as hell! And getting dumber every day and every generation!
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 18:07 other posts 
Americans may be "dumb" but the government is DUMBER.
And teachers and the system has lost total sight of what they were intended for .
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 18:34 other posts 
What are teachers intended for, in your opinion?

I think teachers should teach kids how to think and how to learn.
They should also teach kids knowledge as a starting point, to build on,
but learning should never stop after you leave school.
It's impossible to teach kids everything they will need in life,
so you teach them how to learn for themselves what they need after school.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 21:59 other posts 
You are correct for the most part, BUT it is what they teach the kids to learn about that is the issue in some cases.
There are 2 sexes or genders, not 24.
But teachers try to teach that there are more and how boys can have babies and shit and the science is not there,the anatomy is not there and so on.
No matter what you learned in school Ananas, I am willing to bet a dozen donuts YOU personally can NOT have a BABY.
All the knowledge in the world,will not put a womb in your torso. Why teach kids that they can do something that is physically impossible?
I am just using that 1 issue as a example , there are more about race and so forth
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Aug,23 06:08 other posts 
Every teacher everywhere in the world teaches that there are 2 sexes.
I was told that and every kid in even the 'wokest' school in my country too.
Only higher education in genetics will expand on the variations in sex.

The teachers who are correct, make a distinction between sex and gender.
Sex is biological and gender is a social/identity construct.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? The scientific definition of 'gender' has never been the same as the scientific definition of 'sex', it was just misused by people who do not know any better. The reason people started using the word 'gender' in stead of 'sex' was prudishness, but that's no reason to confuse science.

I have explained it to you at length, you have not provided anything to the contrary, other than repeating your 1950's ideas and straw-manning the arguments, instead of what scientists have actually demonstrated on the subject.
By tecsan [Ignore] 27,Aug,23 23:38 other posts 
You socialist always come up with stupid arguments and ideas. What has been wrong with the last couple hundred years? You all want to change crap to suit your narrative at the moment. I just wonder what it will be six months from now Ananas2xLekker.

Oh, also feel free to keep up your bullshit semantics.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Aug,23 09:42 other posts 
"What has been wrong with the last couple hundred years?"
Are you kidding? How about too many crimes against humanity to count?

There is only one narrative that I care about; what is true!
There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender.
Your side has done nothing but suppresses them and deny those people their very existence. Your side is getting crazy enough to start killing.
And your argument for that is the meaning of a word? That's bullshit!
By tecsan [Ignore] 29,Aug,23 00:55 other posts 
We have live through it without any problems until you socialist bring up the crap. I have trans friends that laugh at you and think you are an idiot as well as this so called woke mob. I really think you should get out more and socialize. Don't judge another country unless you have spent a good amount of time there.

May be a surprise to you, but not all trans people agree with your BS.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Aug,23 04:25 other posts 
Are you even realizing that you have not refuted anything I said, with any arguments, at all? You are just calling it socialism, crap, laughable, idiotic, woke and bullshit, but you provide NOTHING that refutes the reality I'm pointing to.

You have just confirmed that trans people exist. Didn't I say:
"There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender."?
So how is that BS? What is not true about it?

From every discussion we have had, I get the idea that you are completely incapable of logic. Answer this; if trans people exist, why then is sex binary and why then is 'gender' the same as 'sex'?
How do we categorize transGENDER people, if you are correct?

Lets examine your claim that not all trans people agree agree with me. First of all, that's an 'appeal to authority fallacy', it's not an argument supported by logic. Even if it's true that those people say that, it doesn't say anything about them being correct. They can be just as ignorant of the science as you are. Being transgender doesn't come with a science curriculum in sex and gender studies.

So do those trans people, you are referring to, agree with your view, that they are mentally ill, due to woke propaganda from drag queens, and they shouldn't be allowed to look the way they want to look, take gender-affirming medication and especially not get gender-affirming surgery, because they are obviously confused, because of the 'woke mob'?

Maybe that's putting 'words' in your mouth, but you have called every related opposite idea, that I've proposed 'BS' and worse, so that IS YOUR POSITION. If not, clarify what you don't agree with. If you don't, you confirm everything I just stated.
Ask those trans people, you know, if they agree with that.
If they do, they agree with being stripped of the right to exist.
By tecsan [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 01:27 other posts 
You have just confirmed that trans people exist. Didn't I say:
"There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender."?
So how is that BS? What is not true about it? #1 what are the percentage of those people that make you think millions should go along with the BS?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 06:27 other posts 
Are you calling the fact that they exist itself BS?
Trans people are about a group of minimum 1% and maximum 5%.
They exist, and they want the right to exist. Is that BS?

What do you consider 'going along with the BS'?
Are you talking about just treating them like human beings?
Is allowing them professional help 'going along with the BS'?
If you are not clear, then how can we have a discussion?

Personally, I think it's BS to make a fully transitioned trans-woman pee at the men's toilet, but you seem to think that is very important. I would feel a bit uncomfortable to find a trans-woman in the men's toilet.
"Did I walk into the wrong toilet?". Not 'going along' with their wish to use the women's toilet, is BS in my opinion.
And I also think women would feel uncomfortable when trans-men have to pee in the women's toilet. Most of them have beards. How is it BS to allow them into the men's toilet? Hell, you wouldn't even notice.
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Or things like the right to say 'sir' to someone wearing make-up and a dress. Why would you want that? You're bound to mistake a biological woman for a transvestite or transsexual and look like an idiot. That's why it is BS, in my opinion, to keep saying 'sir' to trans-women.
Do you want to say 'ma'am' to a ripped guy with a beard?
You better know what you're doing then, because if you guess wrong...

Is it BS to let a ripped man, wearing a skirt, compete as a woman?
Yes, of course it is. No one wants that. Lets be honest and practical about it. Stop your BS, saying that's what people want.
By tecsan [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 00:09 other posts 
Stop putting words in my mouth again. They are treated well and why should I put 1% ahead of the majority. They exist and they are fine with me. Some are fun to hang out with. Now do you believe in hanging out or do you just like using them as political pawns as usual Ananas2xLekker.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:16 other posts 
They are constantly in danger of getting killed by crazies like you.
How are they put ahead of the majority?
How are YOU hurt by their existence?
Using them as political pawns is exactly what Republicans are doing.
They decided to do that as a strategy, because they have nothing else to give you.
They provide you with an enemy, so you think they are doing something for you, when they make that enemy suffer.

Making people suffer doesn't cost anything for the elites,
but it's very useful if people like to see other people suffer.
It's the oldest playbook in politics ever.
It's time people aren't fooled by that anymore.
By tecsan [Ignore] 01,Sep,23 04:35 other posts 
I do believe that we have common sense. That is something you libs will never have. No crazy stupid ideas, then yes, you libs have that over us.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,23 08:59 other posts 
No, you have dogmas, which you call 'common sense'.
'Libs' and progressives have logical reasoning.
You have never provided any logical argument for any idea you hold.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 09:29 other posts 
NO are YOU kidding? All the racial strife that has happened over the past 100 years is all for naught.
The constitution was fixed to give equal rights.
equal rights, means EQUAL EFFORT on the part of all involved.
1 race whining about what was done 100 years ago wants the people of today to give them money for something they are not responsible for and so many other examples .IT's all because of to much tolerance, to much compassion, to much leniency .
if blacks get money for restitution for thier ancestors I want money for my ancestors being forced to walk all the way to Oklahoma
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:29 other posts 
The constitution says nothing about EQUAL EFFORT.
It's not whining over what was done 100 years ago,
they are constantly discriminated against TODAY.

Here are some examples:
When you are just walking around, a cop is not going to think
that you look suspiciously. It is what they get every day and that puts them danger of police violence every day.
Hospitals and schools are taken out of black neighborhoods and polluting industry and highways are put into their neighborhoods.
Their votes get canceled by voter suppression and gerrymandering.
They get racially profiled against getting loans and insurances.
They are stigmatized in the justice system and get harder punishment than white people, for the same crimes.
Not just black people with an equal education make lower wages than white people, but they even make less money with a higher education than white people.

That's called systemic racism and according to the constitution,
that should not happen.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:37 other posts 
HOW ELSE can all be equal if there is no equal effort by all?
Bella posted a link to a video of a black woman screaming cuss words at a cop, and you have YET to comment on it, Gee I wonder why? Because it disproves your idea that blacks are mistreated? 13% of the population commits 30% or so of all crime
Based on the 2018 NCVS and UCR, black people accounted for 29% of violent-crime offenders and 35% of violent-crime offenders in incidents reported to police, compared to 33% of all persons arrested for violent crimes

Hospitals are not built in black neighborhoods because they can't or don't pay their fucking BILLS. Medical care cost money and they won't work to earn it.
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"What race has the most medical debt?
Black
And across the middle class, racial disparities persist, with Black and Hispanic families seeing the highest rates. 4 million (37.5%) Black middle-class people have medical debt, 8.5 points higher than Black low-income people and 16 points higher than Black high-income people.Aug 21, 2023"

Please I know I have ask this a dozen times and you or cat neither 1 have shown indisputable evidence that black votes are actually suppressed. You show the potential for it to happen,just as we can show the potential for voter fraud. But you ignore us and try to push your agenda,that has far less actual evidence.
All that is required is a legit id to vote, something everyone has or should have for many other reasons besides voting. The 1 right Americans have that is so simple to qualify for ,being a citizen, and folks are unwilling to prove that simple thing, by having a simple id. SOMEHOW< it is wrong to ask people to prove who the hell they are.
According to liberal theory I should be able to fly over to the Nether regions and vote in YOUR elections. No proof needed to vote right? May I come vote in your next election? You can vote in mine if you swim over the river and give my name if you come to my voting precinct.
So what if they get punished for a crime, it has been going on long enough that everyone,not just blacks ,should know better than to commit crime in the first fucking place.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Sep,23 12:15 other posts 
That's a complete straw-man of my opinions. I am very much supporting rewarding effort, but I'm also supporting a minimum level of basic living necessities that no one should be allowed to fall under. Humanity has progressed enough to provide that.

You are actually not supporting equal reward for equal effort, at all.
Most of the wealthy provides no effort at all, but you think they are entitled to very unequal rewards. They sit behind a desk, thinking of plans to screw their workers, to squeeze even more profits out of their labor and make 400x the money of those workers. How is that equal reward for equal effort?
What did the kids of wealthy people do, to get unequal more access to quality education?

What would that one video tell me? That one cop had the restraint to not kill someone for just disrespecting them?

"13% of the population commits 30% or so of all crime"
One poor black criminal has to do a crime every day to get by.
One white white board criminal can do one crime and make enough to retire.
And that black guy has a much higher chance to get caught and add to the statistics.

Of course poor people have more medical debt than rich people.
I don't need statistics to understand that. BUT THAT IS WRONG!
Healthcare should be a right for everyone and not a thing you need to work for.

Why do you need evidence for voter suppression?
There are laws designed to suppress the votes of black people.
You can READ, don't you?
When Republican politicians draw a map for voting districts to catch every single black person in just one district and then put every white person in all the other districts, that's voter suppression. Are you denying that they do that?

"According to liberal theory I should be able to fly over to the Nether regions and vote in YOUR elections."
Of course not, only everyone living in the Netherlands, who is 18 years or older, and has the Dutch nationality, may vote. Also Dutch people who are in prison. The group of people who are not allowed to vote is very small. You don't have the Dutch nationality, so you would not be allowed to vote, except in some cases for the municipal elections and water board elections.
Everyone who's eligible to vote in my country, gets a voting pass by mail, without any registration needed.
On election day, we go to the polls, handover the voting pass and our identification and we vote, most of the time withing minutes. Our elections are very secure and we don't have any gerrymandering or voter roll purges.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 15:05 other posts 
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here is a black woman that thinks it is OK to steal.
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Another thinks they can cause a accident and not be blamed,
I could go on, but the black people have this "entitlement" mentality and it is just wrong.


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By tecsan [Ignore] 01,Sep,23 00:53 other posts 
Love to have all my money back for attending a University. Not to mention for all of the specialized classes I had to pay for. Keep whining libs, you signed up for it and thus you owe it back. Should not be me paying you, I think you should be paying me if any reparations are to be paid. Grow up and accept responsibilities Ananas2xLekker.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Sep,23 10:43 other posts 
Education is the parents responsibility ,not the publics. I don't have kids, and should not be expected to pay a red cent for anything related to a kid.Nor should I have tolerate their screaming and banging around when I am eating out or shopping.
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Sep,23 01:05 other posts 
I have always wondered that, of course I should have paid taxes related to schools. But those without kids should not pay.

Also those that pay should have a say in education of the children, which last time I checked is everyone that pays taxes. Not just the idiot loon dems.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Sep,23 06:09 other posts 
Education is for the general benefit of society.
Even if you don't have kids, you are benefiting
from an economy where children get education.

How far do you want to take this? Should people
who don't own cars not pay for road infrastructure?
Should people who don't use public transport not pay for it?
Should people who never visit a park not pay for it?
Should people who recycle pay less for waste disposal
than people who don't recycle? How will you check that?

The system that is required to track all the things
people would pay for and not, would be very expensive.
Libertarian ideas like that are ridiculously impractical.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Sep,23 19:26 other posts 
Had that "libertarian" system been implemented decades ago the cost would be small to maintain it.
Parks,put a 10 spot in the can when you walk in,
if you don't ever walk in,then you don't pay,if you don't drive,why the hell would you owe for a road?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,23 16:58 other posts 
Humanity has tried libertarianism for tens of thousands of years.
It didn't go anywhere, so that's why we invented organized society.
Libertarianism is just chaos. And don't think you support it,
you support a conservative autocratic oligarchy; Trumpism.
By tecsan [Ignore] 28,Aug,23 01:31 other posts 
Be careful phart they are already working on transplanting uteruses. Are we also going to transplant ovaries. I wonder if someone is working on ball transplant and a prostate. Hmm, leave it to the ignorant libs and they will try.

You know most of them will argue with a fence post as evidenced by many already. The majorit disagrees with this crap.

I also know a few trans people and they are with me, they say it is just BS the left is using to distract from other things. Maybe bully joey.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 13:56 other posts 
A couple good points Tescan,
The actual people that are dealing with the issues that cause the desire to be trans or whatever, are having issues getting what they need because of all the copy cats and idiots stealing the spot light and resources.
1% or so of the population does not warrant all the screen time it gets.

The only good thing about the uteruses transplants is the rejection rate will be high I am sure and the idiots will have to suffer alot of pain. And maybe,just maybe,they will have to come to terms with the fact they are idiots as they look down at all the scars on their bodies.
I can't see how it is sensible to want to look down and see scars where a dick used to be,or where a boob used to be, the body is destroyed, men with the dick turned to puss deal with infections and such the rest of their lives. when just dealing with the fact you have a dick and living your life would be cheaper, and less harmful healthwise.
Why would anyone want to receive transplanted ovaries?
It wouldn't be their eggs, but have the DNA of the donor.
At least with a transplanted uterus a person would be able
to bear children which would otherwise be impossible.
Having the ovaries of someone else is totally pointless.

At least with someone else's testicles, you can give cumshots.
That requires a prostate as well, or they would be very dry ones.
By phart [Ignore] 05,Sep,23 12:53 other posts 
None of it makes any sense. That is the whole point.You are born with what your body is designed for,and putting a extra transmission in the front of a volkswagon beetle is not going to make it a Mack truck.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 11:51 other posts 
Literally all elective surgery is on body parts that were incorrectly 'designed', according to the people who want those surgeries.
By sherryann [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 20:43 other posts 
Im sorry phart I know it sounds harsh, but kids are not part of my life so I have no interest in them. I was just reading and came across American people being dumb and I know that's a fact.
By tecsan [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 01:29 other posts 
You do have a very good point there sherryann. I guess CAT does too if she believes it too.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 10:49 other posts 
Wholeheartedly. I'm also honored to be in sinc with lovely Sherryann.
By sherryann [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 18:41 other posts 
Aw thanks that's very kind!
By sherryann [Ignore] 30,Aug,23 18:42 other posts 
thanks tecsan
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,23 18:06 other posts 
About the subjects they versed in such as physics or something but, Not everything.
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Aug,23 02:52 other posts 
No it is not Ananas2xLekker. The talking points are being presented by the left wing idiots. I guess you need to live here to understand and last time I checked you are in the Netherlands and trying to argue American politics.

Think dude, that would be crazy for me to argue the politics of your Country. Really no one here cares about the politics in your Country. In other words your politics mean nothing.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Aug,23 06:19 other posts 
You yourself say that my country is woke as fuck.
But there is no school in my country teaching CRT or have kids
'indoctrinated by drag queens'. How does that calculate for you?

Every time some right-wing story comes out, about kitty litter boxes
or some shit, it always turns out to be completely fabricated nonsense.
Or it turns out it's some right-wing parent, who's is trolling people.
Or it is something common sense that schools are obligated to provide, by law.
But it's hyped on every right-wing news outlet, like it's the end times.

It would be crazy for you to discuss politics in my country, because you don't know anything about it. Why should you? What happens in my country doesn't affect you. However, everything that happens in your country affects my country. Just one tiny example: When we had the 'wappies' in my country, denying the very existence of COVID-19 or even the existence of viruses itself, and thinking the vaccines were a government conspiracy to decimate the population, and threatening our politicians over it, that was ALL caused by American made disinformation. I've seen my brother in law turned into a complete lunatic, because of your nonsense. He is not capable of thinking straight anymore. It is ruining his life. He's constantly making horrible mistakes, switching jobs, going into debt, and since recently his 10 year old son doesn't want to live with him anymore, in the weekends. He used to be a sensible, down to earth guy, but American made disinformation turned his mind into mush.

However, I have been following and investigated your political subjects for years now and most of the time I know much more about it than you do. Sure, you live in the US, but you are dependent on the media, to tell you what is happening in schools, just like me. You might hear some stories, but you're only accepting the stories from people in your echo chamber and rejecting the stories your hear from everyone else. They are just crazy liberals to you, so you can ignore them.
You don't know anything about your own country, because you chose to believe bullshit and deny reality.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,23 17:22 other posts 
Living in the US with neighbors sending their kids to school it is not difficult to see and hear what happens without ever depending on the media for the info.I hear some from school teachers directly and the kids.
1 neighbors kid that I spoke to during the plandemic said he was very disappointed about his grades. He was making good grades in school then they closed the schools and went online. He said if you even signed in each day and marked answers on test you were given passing grades rather or not your answers were correct. Schools closed less than 3 months from end of year and with no precedent to follow ,teachers just slacked their way thru.. 1 school teacher explained they are not able to teach history before WW2! Nothing is mentioned about the founding fathers or anything of the sort
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Sep,23 09:05 other posts 
The covid measures did indeed have a damaging effect to children.
But it was necessary to keep the spread of the virus down.
If they had done nothing, the death toll would have been millions higher.
Kids are huge infection spreaders. They don't get very sick themselves,
but they infect everyone around them. The damage done to their education
is still less than when parents are unable to work, end up in hospital,
die or suffer long covid.

Yous hospitals were overburdened. People died due to lack of healthcare,
who wouldn't have died if it was available. One factor that overburdened
your hospitals was people who refused to vaccinate. That had a negative
effect on those children's education too.

However, we were talking about woke and CRT and now we are talking
about covid measure. Maybe that's all the same to you, but it isn't.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Sep,23 19:28 other posts 
It all ties together. All affect the education of the kids.
the virus,the crt,the "wokeness'. Which I seldom use that term, does not apply to what it is used for
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,23 17:15 other posts 
That figures, 'wokeness' is the term that they fit everything under,
when wise and thoughtful policies serve the public interest.

They tell you 'think about the kids', when they only think about themselves.
Meanwhile they are reducing education to teaching monkeys some tricks.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 11:58 other posts 
Kids need to be taught what they can use to earn a damn living ,not taught how to leach off the system.
That's for sure.
Learning there is 514 genders is not any kind of info a person can use to earn a living.
But learning how to keep track of your money,how to invest, how to write, talk, and so on,are some things that need to be taught.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 12:33 other posts 
"taught what they can use to earn a damn living"
That's more than they taught you, because that won't provide them with a job that pays the rent of a one room apartment these days.
What you think is sufficient education, is just enough for a shop assistant.
If they want to do what I do, and make just enough to buy a house today,
they need to learn real science and learn actual thinking skills.
That was all in the banned books of Ron DeSantis, so sorry for those kids.
Children in the red states will all grow up to be poor or criminals.
Unless they have rich parents of course, they are allowed to learn useful knowledge, because they need it to rule over the poor and dumb peasants.

And no, you're a dumb-ass for thinking there is any specific number of genders or that kids are taught that. They are just hearing that some people feel like they don't belong in the body they were born with, which is a fact, supported by science. But apparently, that information is very dangerous to your ideology. It must be incredibly weak, if you feel so threatened by reality.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Sep,23 16:42 other posts 
I am not threatened by reality, I live in it every day. What is a concern is a generation of people growing up confused ,thinking they are women but dying of prostate cancer or similar issues.
The people that are being taught it is ok not to accept themselves as what they are born as in the physical sense is a issue .The suicide rates have not improved since this gender bending thing started.it has gotten worse.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Sep,23 04:16 other posts 
You think that, because of the 24/7 fearmongering about it.
It's bullshit, the percentage of transgenders is completely consistent with historical and researched facts. There are just a whole lot of young people supporting them. Then there are lots of young people who don't like your religiously originated ideology of prudishness and abstinence (as long as it's heterosexual abstinence). Just like punk kids rejected society imposing their idea's onto them, pink haired kids using gender neutral pronouns are rejecting your ideology that you want to impose on them. They are not 'confused' about their sex, they won't go through any surgery, they are just not accepting your outdated ideas and celebrate personal freedom.

Just like when being left-handed was allowed, the percentage of left-handedness increased from 3% to 12% and then stabilized at 12% for
60 years, and the percentage of gay people increased to about 7.5%,
when they are not murdered or imprisoned over it, the percentage of transgenders transitioning or partly transitioning will be at maximum 2% (which is probably too high of an estimation).
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If suicide rates have not improved, that's because your ideology
keeps turning their life into a living hell.

US numbers: "Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth."
I could not find any consistent numbers on the general population, but your suicide rate is 10.1 per 100,000 people per year (ours is 7.9).

Dutch numbers: "Transgender people are 5 to 10 times more likely to attempt suicide and 7 times more likely to think about suicide compared to non-transgender people."
About 4.3% of the Dutch population considers suicide at one time in their lives. That means it's 30% for transgender people.

The conclusions:
1) It sucks to be a transgender, in general.
2) Life in the US generally sucks more than life in The Netherlands.
3) For transgender people life sucks way more in the US, than life
in The Netherlands.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Sep,23 09:37 other posts 
If it sucks, then why be involved in it? Accept your body for what it is,and get on with life.
If you can convince fat people they are pretty,you should be able do similar for trans people.
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person admits the hate comes from within!
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Sep,23 11:56 other posts 
Can you imagine how it would feel, to be that way?
By phart [Ignore] 08,Sep,23 20:43 other posts 
No,why would I want to? why create a problem for yourself?
The meds these people are taking are not working,or they need some meds.


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