This black man decided it was perfectly ok to roll a trash can into a store and start piling cigarettes in it. About 2/3's thru the video,he is soon taught that it was NOT a good idea.
No they didn't kill him,but I bet he will think twice before he steals again. I love this method of dealing with theft. no law enforcement needed, just beat the fuck out of em and kick them out the door.Problem solved.
I am sure leo will think they should help him pile more in the can so it will be worth his time.he seems to support crime
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I’m afraid I would have exploded that stick he was using would have been bashing his head in not his ass years ago a guy at a biker bar kicked my soft tail over in the parking lot and I lost it I beat him with in an inch of his life with my half helmet I found the next morning that he was in the hospital with a fractured skull
I don't worry because of the law of averages. Throughout my life I've had many friends and other people I've known. Not one has had a reason to “carry”. Yes, it happens. If it didn’t I wouldn’t bitch so much about guns. I’ve been chased and my purse stolen by an armed BLACK MAN, in the Macy’s parking lot in International Mall. I was in my thirties. I managed to get to my old Mustang. I started to chase the guy trying to run him over. He shot at me but it went wild. His buddy(s) picked him up.
I figure that was my “one and only reason” to “carry”. I don’t want to be a hypocrite. Owning a gun and advocating against them is not right.
Not a care in the world, because you are armed?
Well, if guns solved everything, that would be easy.
Looking at your country, it doesn't look like guns solve everything.
Actually, it looks like guns solve nothing, except for 'ascending early'.
I see no reason to believe that 'ascending' is real. When the brain dies, it's over.
Still being kind to other people is the way to go, to make the world better,
where we spend our one and only life.
It's not about that bro. I grew up hunting and fishing. The biggest reason I am not worried about death is because I would never hurt a human unless they had it coming. My dear old dad always had a pistol when we went up in the hills. It wasn't for bears or mountain lions dude. I don't hunt much anymore...in fact, there are baby deer born in my backyard every spring. Jesus said "split a piece of wood and I am there, turn over a rock and you will find me". When people don't believe in heaven or hell, then that's what you have today. Terrible crimes on children, genocide, war..these people must believe they will not be punished. I believe they will, THAT is why I'm not worried because I am a good man and I do unto others as I would like them to do unto me.
Iván sacó, did Jesus also say, “Shoot someone dead and you will find me”? So, your “Dear Old Dad” went hunting prepared to shoot another human being? I’m sorry, I just don’t buy into your Christian/Gun philosophy.
no my dear...I don't want to shoot anyone or anything if I don't have to, but I will. My dad was more concerned about bad people...they are everywhere. You don't have to buy into anything, and I still love you despite our differences. That was the whole premise about our country. BUT...I will tell you something....If I witnessed a gang of thugs robbing and beating anyone I would do something about it. There seems to be more and more of that. I am a kind man, I open the door for people, I say thank you and hello and I have respect for others. I'm not here to argue with you. I like you.
well, I have been in that situation and paid the price. I witnessed an older woman getting beat up and robbed in a grocery store parking lot many years ago. I used my fists and nearly killed that fkr bare handed. I spent more time in jail than he did.
To you, guns are just tools, I understand, even though I grew up in the city.
If I would live in an area with bears and mountain lions, I would want to be armed. That's not the problem in your country, it's the people who think they need to be able to protect themselves in villages and cities, where the only danger comes from other people.
Allowing people to protect themselves from other people is also providing everyone with the most effective tools to kill other people. Maybe you wouldn't hurt a human unless they had it coming, but, isn't it clear that many people do hurt other people, who not have it coming?
And what does 'unless they had it coming' mean? Does it mean them ringing your doorbell at 10 pm? Maybe you are responsible enough to own a gun, but many of your countrymen don't. They might think you have it coming, when you keep stinking up the laundry, hanging outside in the neighbors garden, with your BBQ smoke. Or maybe they think you have it coming, when you cut someone off in your car accidentally. Arming everyone means arming crazy people. And I don't see your government do anything to restrict guns from crazy people or improve mental healthcare.
You don't have to fear death, but you're certainly at risk of it. Being a a good man who does unto others as you would like them to do unto you, is no guarantee against that. I remind you of how many innocent children get gunned down in your country. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like that.
"When people don't believe in heaven or hell, then that's what you have today."
Reality doesn't change according to your beliefs. Heaven and/or hell are either real or not. Do you care about your beliefs being consistent with reality, or would you prefer to believe in something that's not true, just for it giving you comfort?
sooo, what happens to you...after your body dies? We are all sentient and self aware right? It is an eternal question. I will pose another. Some believe one can become immortal by installing a device and uploading their soul on the net or the cloud...allowed to float around in cyberspace forever..would you do that? I wouldn't. My parents are both gone now. My pop was a falconer, and he always said if he ever came back it would be in the form of a cooper's hawk. My mom loved butterflies and dragonflies. I choose to believe when I see a cooper's hawk in the back or soaring it is my pop saying hi. When a swallowtail butterfly lands on my arm it is my mom saying hi.
After my body dies and my brain dies, nothing that made me me remains.
I experienced full anesthesia several times. That felt like not existing, during that period. It would feel the same to be dead; nothing.
I can be wrong, but I'm not seeing any good arguments for why I should be.
I'm not going to live my life, believing something that I find illogical.
"float around in cyberspace forever" No thanks! First of all, I don't believe that would be me, but just a copy of me. Second; forever is too long a time for me. Everything will get very boring, before forever gets even close.
If I can add another 100 years to my life in health and strength, that would be very attractive. However, since humanity is doing its best to destroy the world,
I don't know If I would want to see so much of the future or even if all the rest of my life, that I hope to have, is going to be that pleasant.
I still have both my parents, but they are getting old. I will miss them a lot,
when they'll eventually leave me. I'm sure your beliefs could help that make more bearable, but solace is not a reason for me, to have any beliefs.
I'm sure many things will help me remember them. That's good enough.
My father and I share a little joke; whenever you do something good, you get a voucher for the canteen in heaven. I'm sure I will imagine him spending his vouchers, even though I don't believe in it.
Well if you are correct, then nothing to loose if you croak and yur gone.BUT what if? what if by some chance,you were WRONG?
Then what?
I vaguely remember reading or hearing the greeks idea of hell was a person spending eternity doing something he could never finish.Like rolling a rock up a hill and get it almost to the top and it rolls back down.that sort of thing.I sure hope I don't spend eternity trying to get my shoes tied!
Sure, posters cost money. Ads cost money, when TV is commercialized.
That's the issue when you don't have public broadcasting, which is obligated to inform the public about political candidates.
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A gun damn sure keeps unwanted people off my property.
Tecsan. The airwaves are owned by the public and federally regulated. Instead of having all the mudslinging we have now, the radio and tv could be made to provide free adds that deal with actual problems. There could be a committee that approves content.
Ananas, it’s hard to wrap my brain in thinking death ends all of me. I believe in a cosmic like entity comprised of all the essence of passed living animals. What I don’t believe in is the reward or punishment part. Heaven or Hell exists here in our corporeal minds.
It's hard to wrap my brain around thinking to be conscious for ever.
Have you ever really thought about that concept?
How ever nice that 'life after death' would be, I would get bored eventually.
I actually prefer it all to end, just after a good and long life.
But, what I prefer is not an argument for what is real.
Consciousness is dependent on a functioning brain. Chemicals can change or stop your consciousness. Getting brain damaged makes people unable to perform thinking tasks that functioning brains can do, like recognizing shapes, or faces, or sounds, or retain memories. Those facts eliminate the concept of a soul. Have you ever been under full anesthesia? That part that you cannot remember, that's how it would feel to be death. How you felt 100 years ago, is exactly how you would feel in 100 years; nothingness.
It's a very simple concept to me. It's only a difficult concept for people who were indoctrinated with religious ideas. The concept of an afterlife or some form of consciousness after death is not based on experiences or reasoning.
Any idea how it would feel to be a cosmic like entity comprised of all the essence? Can you still think, see, feel, move and communicate? What is the benefit of being such an entity? Is there still a purpose into being, at that point? Why is it better than not 'being' at all?
Heaven and hell are just human creations to make people compliant.
You misunderstood. I don't believe your essence would have the ability to think. That essence would be back in the proverbial soup. I don't know why it would be like that. My theory is from science saying nothing is ever wasted, just reworked. Well, then, why not our essence?
I have no problem with my essence returning to the proverbial soup. lol
Considering that my body will be cremated, unless they will think of something more environmentally friendly for me to choose, all my atoms will return to the proverbial soup as well.
I see our essence as data on computer memory. When the hardware is destroyed, the data is truly wasted. However, I can store some of those memories on the people around me and on society. And the impact I had on society will always remain, even if everyone who ever knew me is gone too.
I don't think much of me will remain, when humanity is destroyed.
I think that's the source of me caring about what happens to humanity,
after I'm gone.
We go through life leaving behind at the place we've been something of ourselves. Sometimes we know what. Sometimes we are no even aware of it. I have two sons and a daughter. Between them I have four grandsons and three daughters. This, alone, guarantees that my touch and Charlie's touch will be there for eternity or until the last day of humanity.
Sure, you've got your DNA living on in the gene-pool after you're gone.
Except, for my brother having a son as progeny, we don't have that.
It was a conscious choice not to have children. Still, I care more about the future of humanity, than most people who do have children.
Even the majority of Americans accept the consequences of what climate science has presented. So either people are being ostriches or they think it's inevitable (it's not). Why are people not demanding from their politicians to stop following the road to oblivion? What we are leaving behind now, is the debt of not having done enough. Our generations will be remembered for the misery of future generations, for as many as there still will be.
We are being selfish, by using up all the natural resources and destroying all of nature. We are leaving progeny with a dying earth, with nothing on it, but toxic and nuclear waste.
If there's a creator, would he like the people who are destroying his creation?
I don't believe in a soul, but I still prefer to keep my conscience clean.
Strange how some of the strongest believers are strong supporters of selfishness and not giving a fuck about destroying the earth.
You have a great understanding of the problems facing humanity. You are not that good at figuring people. You and Phart are two sides of the same coin. People don't do what's right unless they have to. They don't do wrong unless by chance. I'm talking about the average Joe. It's easy to understand global warming but, we have a BBQ party Sunday.😈
Phart expects everyone, but himself, to have the worst intentions imaginable. I am not. Why would I be a socialist, if I had no hope for people to be good?
Not having a BBQ party is not going to save the climate.
71% of the problem is caused by 100 companies.
Not even you or I being fully 'green' from tomorrow on, will help anything.
No one can solve this problem with personal choices.
Unless all the powerful people are making the right choices,
it's up to the 'good' people to make them make the right choices.
But going back to something i posted a couple weeks ago and thinking about it,how do we know what we are being told to do is really a good thing? You remember the million tires dumped off your coast was a great idea back in the 70's for sea life reefs and such.Even Good year gave tires. now they are plucking them out of the ocean,where they can put them now that will be better I don't know.
Telling us today to use a solar panel may bite us in the ass in 30 years when ,material from solar panels has been shown to cause cancer or something along that line for example.
Don't think I don't know what you are saying. But, Phart, we do the best with the information we have. If not, why do anything at all for any problem. We might as well stay home in our bedd
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I posted this elsewhere but this is a prime example of Everyone being told how good something they were doing was,only to find out it was a hoax. Big time.
Phart, it happened again. Only half of the post is visible. Still, I was able to hit on it. You need the Microsoft app to read the whole article but from the little shown, it's about the recicling of plastic grocery bags. It looks like it was not very effective. This is not a prime example of doing something that wasn't helping. It was a scheme to make these stores out to be environmentally conscious.
I'm talking about getting an economical car or conserving water or not littering.
Surely that didn't surprise you, did it? It's not the environment. It's not the customer safety that they are interested in. It's the bottom line. Money, mula, etc.
This shouldn't keep you from trying to do the right thing.
I agree with CAT, that we should do the best we can, with the available information.
There is however a difference between your tire story and solar panels.
The tires were claimed to be intended to build sea life reefs. How much of a NECESSITY was that? And how much did it save money, by just throwing old tires in the ocean?
Climate change is real, whether you chose to believe it or not. The only remedy is to strongly reduce our carbon emissions. Using the power of the sun, as an alternative to using fossil fuels, is the best option, to keep powering our current way of living, without killing nature and ourselves. That's something that justifies us taking more risks,
than when we decide what we do with old tires. Sea life reefs
are now dying in record pace, because of sea temperatures
comparable to a hot tub. Some old tires are not going to help.
No they didn't kill him,but I bet he will think twice before he steals again. I love this method of dealing with theft. no law enforcement needed, just beat the fuck out of em and kick them out the door.Problem solved.
I am sure leo will think they should help him pile more in the can so it will be worth his time.he seems to support crime
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I say more of this need to be done. Notice also,no white guys involved.
Even blacks and others are getting tired of the shit.
You only get one. Would be a shame to waste it.
I figure that was my “one and only reason” to “carry”. I don’t want to be a hypocrite. Owning a gun and advocating against them is not right.
Well, if guns solved everything, that would be easy.
Looking at your country, it doesn't look like guns solve everything.
Actually, it looks like guns solve nothing, except for 'ascending early'.
I see no reason to believe that 'ascending' is real. When the brain dies, it's over.
Still being kind to other people is the way to go, to make the world better,
where we spend our one and only life.
If I would live in an area with bears and mountain lions, I would want to be armed. That's not the problem in your country, it's the people who think they need to be able to protect themselves in villages and cities, where the only danger comes from other people.
Allowing people to protect themselves from other people is also providing everyone with the most effective tools to kill other people. Maybe you wouldn't hurt a human unless they had it coming, but, isn't it clear that many people do hurt other people, who not have it coming?
And what does 'unless they had it coming' mean? Does it mean them ringing your doorbell at 10 pm? Maybe you are responsible enough to own a gun, but many of your countrymen don't. They might think you have it coming, when you keep stinking up the laundry, hanging outside in the neighbors garden, with your BBQ smoke. Or maybe they think you have it coming, when you cut someone off in your car accidentally. Arming everyone means arming crazy people. And I don't see your government do anything to restrict guns from crazy people or improve mental healthcare.
You don't have to fear death, but you're certainly at risk of it. Being a a good man who does unto others as you would like them to do unto you, is no guarantee against that. I remind you of how many innocent children get gunned down in your country. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like that.
"When people don't believe in heaven or hell, then that's what you have today."
Reality doesn't change according to your beliefs. Heaven and/or hell are either real or not. Do you care about your beliefs being consistent with reality, or would you prefer to believe in something that's not true, just for it giving you comfort?
I experienced full anesthesia several times. That felt like not existing, during that period. It would feel the same to be dead; nothing.
I can be wrong, but I'm not seeing any good arguments for why I should be.
I'm not going to live my life, believing something that I find illogical.
"float around in cyberspace forever" No thanks! First of all, I don't believe that would be me, but just a copy of me. Second; forever is too long a time for me. Everything will get very boring, before forever gets even close.
If I can add another 100 years to my life in health and strength, that would be very attractive. However, since humanity is doing its best to destroy the world,
I don't know If I would want to see so much of the future or even if all the rest of my life, that I hope to have, is going to be that pleasant.
I still have both my parents, but they are getting old. I will miss them a lot,
when they'll eventually leave me. I'm sure your beliefs could help that make more bearable, but solace is not a reason for me, to have any beliefs.
I'm sure many things will help me remember them. That's good enough.
My father and I share a little joke; whenever you do something good, you get a voucher for the canteen in heaven. I'm sure I will imagine him spending his vouchers, even though I don't believe in it.
Then what?
I vaguely remember reading or hearing the greeks idea of hell was a person spending eternity doing something he could never finish.Like rolling a rock up a hill and get it almost to the top and it rolls back down.that sort of thing.I sure hope I don't spend eternity trying to get my shoes tied!
That's the issue when you don't have public broadcasting, which is obligated to inform the public about political candidates.
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A gun damn sure keeps unwanted people off my property.
Have you ever really thought about that concept?
How ever nice that 'life after death' would be, I would get bored eventually.
I actually prefer it all to end, just after a good and long life.
But, what I prefer is not an argument for what is real.
Consciousness is dependent on a functioning brain. Chemicals can change or stop your consciousness. Getting brain damaged makes people unable to perform thinking tasks that functioning brains can do, like recognizing shapes, or faces, or sounds, or retain memories. Those facts eliminate the concept of a soul. Have you ever been under full anesthesia? That part that you cannot remember, that's how it would feel to be death. How you felt 100 years ago, is exactly how you would feel in 100 years; nothingness.
It's a very simple concept to me. It's only a difficult concept for people who were indoctrinated with religious ideas. The concept of an afterlife or some form of consciousness after death is not based on experiences or reasoning.
Any idea how it would feel to be a cosmic like entity comprised of all the essence? Can you still think, see, feel, move and communicate? What is the benefit of being such an entity? Is there still a purpose into being, at that point? Why is it better than not 'being' at all?
Heaven and hell are just human creations to make people compliant.
Considering that my body will be cremated, unless they will think of something more environmentally friendly for me to choose, all my atoms will return to the proverbial soup as well.
I see our essence as data on computer memory. When the hardware is destroyed, the data is truly wasted. However, I can store some of those memories on the people around me and on society. And the impact I had on society will always remain, even if everyone who ever knew me is gone too.
I don't think much of me will remain, when humanity is destroyed.
I think that's the source of me caring about what happens to humanity,
after I'm gone.
Except, for my brother having a son as progeny, we don't have that.
It was a conscious choice not to have children. Still, I care more about the future of humanity, than most people who do have children.
Even the majority of Americans accept the consequences of what climate science has presented. So either people are being ostriches or they think it's inevitable (it's not). Why are people not demanding from their politicians to stop following the road to oblivion? What we are leaving behind now, is the debt of not having done enough. Our generations will be remembered for the misery of future generations, for as many as there still will be.
We are being selfish, by using up all the natural resources and destroying all of nature. We are leaving progeny with a dying earth, with nothing on it, but toxic and nuclear waste.
If there's a creator, would he like the people who are destroying his creation?
I don't believe in a soul, but I still prefer to keep my conscience clean.
Strange how some of the strongest believers are strong supporters of selfishness and not giving a fuck about destroying the earth.
Not having a BBQ party is not going to save the climate.
71% of the problem is caused by 100 companies.
Not even you or I being fully 'green' from tomorrow on, will help anything.
No one can solve this problem with personal choices.
Unless all the powerful people are making the right choices,
it's up to the 'good' people to make them make the right choices.
Telling us today to use a solar panel may bite us in the ass in 30 years when ,material from solar panels has been shown to cause cancer or something along that line for example.
I posted this elsewhere but this is a prime example of Everyone being told how good something they were doing was,only to find out it was a hoax. Big time.
I'm talking about getting an economical car or conserving water or not littering.
This shouldn't keep you from trying to do the right thing.
There is however a difference between your tire story and solar panels.
The tires were claimed to be intended to build sea life reefs. How much of a NECESSITY was that? And how much did it save money, by just throwing old tires in the ocean?
Climate change is real, whether you chose to believe it or not. The only remedy is to strongly reduce our carbon emissions. Using the power of the sun, as an alternative to using fossil fuels, is the best option, to keep powering our current way of living, without killing nature and ourselves. That's something that justifies us taking more risks,
than when we decide what we do with old tires. Sea life reefs
are now dying in record pace, because of sea temperatures
comparable to a hot tub. Some old tires are not going to help.
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