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Black lives matter or do All lives matter...༼☯﹏☯༽

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 09,Oct,20 04:17  other posts
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By phart [Ignore] 17,Apr,23 09:54 other posts 
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If black lives matter,why do so many more die from gun violence under the age of 18 than all other races combined?
Black lives don't even matter to the black people,
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Apr,23 18:57 other posts 
Who said it was formed for all black people to live by? That title or name is a description of a way of life. Similarly, if a group forms itself with the name " All White Lives Matter" there would still be murders of white people.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Apr,23 21:09 other posts 
Don't you see the irony in the black lives matter movement?
1 black person says their lives matter while the 1 next to them is killing another black person. They don't even value their own lives.
But yet,they expect whites and others, to value theirs.
Whites are developing this same lack of love for life as well.
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Apr,23 21:31 other posts 
You are missing the point.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Apr,23 22:05 other posts 
So are you,perhaps there is more than 1 point?
By CAT [Ignore] 20,Apr,23 11:25 other posts 
Let me ask you this: Do you expect other people to value your life? Do you expect black people to value your life when thousands of men, women, and children, all white, get murdered by other whites? It seems to me whites don’t value their lives either.
Black or white, is this right? That is the point. Not the BLM or the QAnon, or whatever has a lock on THE MAJORITY of people, black or white, that go through everyday life trying to live a peaceful and fruitful life.
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Apr,23 22:25 other posts 
You know CAT. I really do not care about how others fell about me. But, I do respect others (no matter the color of their skin). I do not even think skin color makes a difference. I would not even think about it if it were not for libtards always bringing it up.

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I did not form the BLM lunacy, libtards did to keep everyone occupied while they do more goofy shit.
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Apr,23 07:45 other posts 
Who started the KKK? Who started the Arian Nation? Who started QAnon? Witch president ordered police to shoot demonstrators? Who killed so many blacks during arrests when it wasn't necessary?
By tecsan [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 00:10 other posts 
CAT who mainly had slaves before the Civil War between the states.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 09:34 other posts 
I want to commission a statue of Anthony Johnson. A prime example of a Black Entrepeneur who used the legal system to own 4 WHITE slaves.
I wonder how far I could get with that idea today?

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I wonder why we didn't learn about this man in school?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,May,23 07:00 other posts 
It's an interesting exception of the rule, but knowing about him doesn't make him or the practice of slavery right.

He wouldn't get far in the US, owning (white) slaves now, because slavery is prohibited.
He could just exploit his workers (legal or illegal) and make them fully dependent on him, by setting up a company in a poor area and bribe some local politicians to look the other way. It would be just as cheap as using slaves, without the hassle.
Slaves are hard to come by and when you don't feed them enough or punish them too hard for not working hard enough, they die. Especially illegal immigrants are an inexhaustible resource, which companies can exploit to death, with impunity, because Republicans don't believe in punishing companies and just blame the immigrants themselves and the Democrats for letting them in, while distracting their voters with a border wall and neglecting to mention that they will never close the gate for letting in the illegals going to their exploiters.

But it would become easier for an Anthony Johnson to exploit white Americans,
like slaves, if you keep supporting Republicans stripping even more rights and benefits for working, poor and unemployed people.
There are lots of 'right to work' states that already make is easy to abuse (white) Americans, but cheaper and without the hassle of owning slaves.
By phart [Ignore] 03,May,23 10:11 other posts 
Ah, so you do understand. you just explained 1 of the reasons democrats don't deal with illegal immigration. Illegals are the modern equivalent of slaves. It is not the republicans that exploit the slaves, it is the democrats. they hold the dream act in front of the young immigrants noses like a carrot. The dreamers as they call them,that were brought here **** and unable to decide their fate,are the only illegals I feel like deserve a path to citizenship. Just because you can swim doesn't mean you should be given citizen ship.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,May,23 11:59 other posts 
I only see Republicans not wanting to punish companies for exploiting illegals and not wanting to provide a path to citizenship for illegals. Democrats want to do both. How can you twist that into supporting exploitation?

DREAMers got a chance to study and work in the US. That's not a carrot, that's actually improving their life, even if they have to return to their country of origin. They are not exploited. They are not working on a farm or as a roofer or in a meatpacking plant. And even if they would need to return to their country of origin, their chance to make it there would also massively increase.

It's bullshit Democrats don't deal with illegal immigration.
They are doing border security just as much, but they also provide a path to citizenship for real refugees and immigrants who have a chance to improve their lives in the US and would benefit the US in return. That's not exploitation, because they will no longer be illegals. They will become Americans and have a better life than would have been possible in their country of origin.

Your problem is that you think of any immigrant as an 'illegal'.
That's why your brain starts producing errors.
By phart [Ignore] 03,May,23 12:40 other posts 
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By CAT [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 10:35 other posts 
Whites
You keep bullshitting about the name Black Lives Matter.
It's just a name. Just like 'Advance America', is a name
for a conservative political advocacy group. I don't think any
conservative political advocacy group will ever 'Advance America',
I think conservatives are against any and all advancement.
If you hear me blabber on daily about their name and nothing more,
would you think I am a serious person, with valid points?

You know what the BLM moment is about; police violence.
A movement needs a name, and they came up with this one.
Could they think of any name that you would not BS about?

You keep arguing 'why are they angry that police kill them,
when criminals also kill them'. Maybe you don't understand
how stupid that argument is, but I'm sure some get it.

Of course they don't like it that criminals kill them,
but those are CRIMINALS. But the POLICE SHOULDN'T!!
Why should the police be the last to be expected not to kill people?
By phart [Ignore] 20,Apr,23 15:57 other posts 
If you are a mother, and you are against drunk driving, you join MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

Blm, black lives matter ,does not even sound like it is linked to anything police.
If the black people LEGITAMENTLY are concerned about police killing them as they commit crimes they should have come up with a name related to the subject.
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Apr,23 02:43 other posts 
Think about the distraction they have caused. Remember, I do not think that any level headed person with common sense ever called for defund the police.

I say let them defund the police and make them move there. Hey, if they want to create a cess pool then make them live in it.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Apr,23 10:17 other posts 
The problem is cess pools have been known to overflow.
I'm surprised you're not going of on that name;
"Why is it only Mothers who care about drunk driving?
Do fathers not care about children being killed by drunks?"
That's what your doing with the name BLM.

You're probably just angry that they think any lives matter at all,
if even children's lives don't matter enough, to do something.
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Apr,23 21:55 other posts 
Read your comment again. Hell, I am confused with it. BLM is corrupt and you know it unless you are an idiot.

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Oh, forgot unless you are a dumb socialist and condone in breaking the law. Yes, face it. Socialism fails because of people like you.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 09:36 other posts 
Sure there are some BLM organizers profiting from the money coming in,
that's a thing in any American organization. Guess what percentage of donations for building 'the wall' actually goes to building it.
And they could have thought up a better name as well.
But you can only come up with dumb critique on things like that.

That's a new one, that I condone breaking the law. Since when?
You condone treason, corruption, ra.pe and white board crime, for Trump.

Strange, how you say that socialism fails, when you also say that Democrats and all European countries are socialist. That sounds like you actually think that socialism is beating right-wing ass all day.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Apr,23 22:18 other posts 
Lives matter until they try to take other lives.
I don't know of a group of fathers against drunk driving.
Do you?
By CAT [Ignore] 27,Apr,23 14:29 other posts 
Not as a group ut there are thousands of bars where every night a bunch of men drink and then go out and drive
By phart [Ignore] 27,Apr,23 15:03 other posts 
Yea, sadly so many men have nothing more productive to do with themselves than to get sloppy drunk and risk killing people.
Prohibition, I wish it had worked out,
By tecsan [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 00:18 other posts 
CAT I do believe that women (if you know what that is) also do the same in bars. My friend got hit by a drunk woman and I chased her down for the police, she was so drunk she drove through a carwash and got her vehicle tangeled in some railing.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 18:34 other posts 
I hope she was held responsible for damages
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 14:15 other posts 
Tecsan, are you asking me if I noticed I have a "slit" between my legs instead of a funny Chrismas tree? Yes, women can be as bad as men. It's funny that for this there's equality between the sexes, but not for work pay
Fathers probably support Mothers Against Drunk Driving too.
So that name is not accurate, it should be Parents Against Drunk Driving.

And if I was you, and didn't like what MADD stood for,
I would go on and on and on, about the name, just like you.
But I don't, because I don't care about the name of an organization,
I care what an organization stands for. I care about real issues.
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 10:03 other posts 
The name blm is very misleading. that is the issue .And it is a very corrupt group.
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 14:15 other posts 
So? What does that mean?
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 19:20 other posts 
Damn ,my last name aint webster but IF I see the words "black lives matter" Police brutality is the last thing that comes to mind.
I think of blacks taking care of their kids, not killing each other.Men not calling their women bitches and hoes. that sorta thing.
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 21:18 other posts 
You can think what you like. It doesn't change anything.
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 22:05 other posts 
thats right,the name is deceiving.
By CAT [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 22:10 other posts 
And, yet, it's non of your business.
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 22:26 other posts 
Really ?why not? If they are expecting donations, if they are sponsoring economic terrorism or looting , Oh I mean those "peaceful protest" in my town,it very much is my business.
By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 07:45 other posts 
Alright, let's say it is your business. What will you do if they come to town? Are you going to mount a demonstration?
By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 08:19 other posts 
They would know they were unwelcome
By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 09:10 other posts 
How? Add in the local newspaper? Picket their local offices? How?
The name is not misleading, it represents how they feel.
They feel that their lives don't matter to cops, because they are black.

You would be right to say the name was provocative, probably intentional.
They don't want or need your approval of their name, because you will never be their ally. Their name has served them well, because your outrage over their name only encourages the people who support the movement and its message.

I see no evidence for BLM being more corrupt than what's standard in the US.
It's not transparent enough, for my likes, but we are talking about an organization worth around $40 million. There are a shitload of right-wing, conservative and religious organizations worth billions, that are less transparent than BLM.


By phart [Ignore] 01,May,23 10:26 other posts 
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By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 18:33 other posts 
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There are questions as to WHO wrote it but it makes alot of sense.
By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 09:26 other posts 
It was written by a racist bigot.
By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 15:54 other posts 
You say that because you dont' agree with it, not because you can prove it .Nothing there racist, just facts presented in a different way that our homogenizing media presents them.
By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 16:57 other posts 
For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites. The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?

You,Phart, may not realize it but this is racist. He's saying that because African Americans have roots in slavery, they will never be "equal to the white man".
By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 16:59 other posts 
Well at the rate we are going,they still aint. And whos fault is it? Burning and looting are not going to fix it.

And show me exactly what is racist about stateing the obvious.
Sadly the black people were taken from their homeland and brought here with out education, and once free, had no trades,no way of supporting themselves except the jobs they had already done as slaves. Now generations later, with the 14 th amendment, and many other legal measures,are they equal yet?
Are they? and if not considered equal,by who's fault?
By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 18:41 other posts 
You are right, but, the establishment can change it. Their protests are done to show those who can change the status quo that change is needed.


By phart [Ignore] 28,Apr,23 22:07 other posts 
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25 seconds, never looked at it this way before.
at least watch most of it to get the point of the video
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 08:36 other posts 
He got a like from me.
Just being nice to people you meet, makes both your days a little bit better.
What was it that never looked at this way before?
What was the point of the video according to you?
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 09:37 other posts 
That particular black mans life mattered to people because of the way he acted and the way he treated others.
Amazing. Instead of demanding things ,burning things, stealing things ,harming others, he worked a good job for a living and treated his customers well. And they remembered it.
Instead of idolizing crooks and rappers and ball players ,why can't the black people look at men like this as a positive example and follow it? That is most of my point.

I had never looked it this way but i get delivery's and the ups man is similar in the way he works. I tend to trust him more than others because of his actions but in the big picture i had not thought about it the way this video presented it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 10:04 other posts 
You really think that he was the only black man, just being nice?
It's actually ridiculous that some white people are surprised when a black man is just being nice to customers. That's a normal thing. Maybe they are not nice to people that show their hate and fear, the moment they ring the doorbell. Maybe Buddy Brown's family was a bit different, didn't show immediate distrust and contempt, and treated Robert like an actual person. Friendliness is answered with friendliness and that's how you build relationships.

It's even more ridiculous that you think he's an exception and the rest are all 'demanding things ,burning things, stealing things, harming others'. You just accused me of racism, when I said something about Candice Owens, one specific black person, but you think it's not racism, when you say being nice is an exception from the rule of black people 'demanding things ,burning things, stealing things, harming others'.
Read the definition of 'racism' and tell me how that makes any sense.

Candice Owens is a cunt and a grifter for white racists, and saying that is not racism, just because she's black. Saying black people, in general, are 'demanding things, burning things, stealing things, harming others', that's racist.

"Instead of idolizing crooks and rappers and ball players ,why can't the black people look at men like this as a positive example and follow it?" (also racist)
The large majority of black people are exactly like Robert, just trying to keep their heads above water, making long hours and not making a lot of money,
just like the majority of white Americans, but paid on average 30% less.
Being a FedEx employee is not 'working a good job for a living'.
A FedEx delivery driver makes between $11 - $26, and on average: $17.
An average of $17/hour is $35,360 annually. Just enough for rent and food.
How can he pay for a decent education for his kids?

And then he got shot, in a rough neighborhood, just sitting in his truck.
Probably his own neighborhood, when making $35,360 annually.
Maybe by a cop, who wanted to know why he was sitting there, and Robert made
'one wrong move', which was just getting his license and registration out of the
glove compartment. Because, many black people die like that.
Buddy didn't tell us how Robert died. Would he have told us, if a cop shot Robert?
By phart [Ignore] 29,Apr,23 12:39 other posts 
If his kids apply themselves they will get scholarships and grants.
17 a hour ,damn, that is way more than I ever made on the job,and I kept my bills paid.
Sure,I don't drive a Maserati but but I didn't do without needs.
You budget your "needs" with your primary income, then work side jobs for the "wants".

Due to our marketing and such in the US, everyone is mindcontrolled into thinking they have to have a Iphone 17 2 days before it comes out into the market.they have to wear the latest styles in shirt and shoes,400$+ nike tennis shoes.
When common sense tells you to go the Salvation army and get last months styles in like new condition for a 10th of the price,and a 40 dollar pair of shoes is plenty.

By the way, salary is just 1 aspect, look at the PAID HOLIDAYS< up 3 weeks vacation soon after start,etc
Health coverage!Salary is only a small part of a jobs benefits, IF you work at a good company
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By CAT [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 09:23 other posts 
Many children make excellent grades and still don’t get grants or scholarships. And even when they do, those don’t cover the full cost.
$17/hr is not great. It barely pays the bills and leaves very little, if any, for a college education. I’d say you’ve settled with what your circumstances brought you. That’s not what most people want.
By phart [Ignore] 30,Apr,23 15:56 other posts 
Perhaps not, that is supposed to be the motivating force behind doing MORE ,doing BETTER to improve that situation.
Stop whining about the overtime and work it, put the extra in savings. Take a second job instead of playing video games all day on sunday, do SOMETHING yourself to improve your situation instead of holding your hand out and whining like a little baby You just might get nothing but some cheese to go with your whine.


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