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the 'web telescope'.
No, you moron, he was talking about the James Webb telescope.
You even talked about it and showed the 'space pictures' on your own show.
Then she got word from her producer, and she had to correct her mistake.
All her viewers saw that she knows less than the man she's mocking.
Are those viewers going to stop watching that moron now? Who am I kidding.
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“MSNBC is the second-most-watched basic cable network in primetime for February 2023. According to Nielsen live-plus-same-day data, the network averaged 1.165 million total viewers in the daypart, only fewer than Fox News. MSNBC also averaged 711,000 total day viewers in February, No. 2 on basic cable in total day again only behind Fox News.”
That’s from:
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Not a political entity.
If Biden looses, he can just claim that Republicans stole the election.
And there will be lots of shady stuff going on, to make a good case.
Republicans do gerrymandering and purging of voter rolls all the time.
There is always some Republican doing shit with the ballots.
It would be easy to never let Republicans win any election again.
Democrats can actually win court cases, because the facts are in their favor.
He's still claiming there was fraud in Georgia, they re-counted it two times.
His own Cyber Ninjas audit of Arizona votes proved him wrong.
Americans love to be lied to, that's my conclusion.
let each person speak in order,
What they have is PHD in medical science talk about health insurance or some doctor in philosophy talk about climate chance or some professor in archeology talk about poverty or a leading economist talk about big bang theory or a psychiatrist talk about history. They have someone with a big titel, talk about things they don't have that titel in, providing credibility to the absolute nonsense they are spouting.
The exception is economists; most of the time, they do have economists on to talk about economy. It's always an economist believing in trickle down theory though, never someone who's basing their economic ideas in reality.
MSNBC and CNN are different; they have specialists on, to talk about the things they DO know something about. They have a climate scientists to talk about climate change or professor in archeology talk about fossil layers as evidence of evolution or a theoretical physicist to talk about big bang theory, etc.
Fox'News' NEVER have some specialist talking about the topic they are specialized in, unless they have one or more complete idiots destroying the informed words of the specialist. Or, once in a blue moon, they actually have someone on with a title on the topic they are discussing, but then the person is an absolute outlier in the community of scientists, being made fun of for their contrarian ideas. That would not always be a problem, because sometimes people like that chance the direction of science, but that's not the people on Fox'News', those are the people that keep pushing and already 10x debunked idea.
It's the trick they always fall back on. Start looking for it. Ask yourself what titel the person has and what topic they are there to discuss. You will notice that I'm right.
A person with a PHD in medical science understands how insurance dictates what treatments a person gets. The scientist had to come up with cheaper treatments for insurance and the dr's to choose from.
I ask a brick-layer or a car mechanic, not someone with a degree related to electronics, even if the person has a doctorate in electronics and is the head engineer of Intel.
That PHD in medical science doesn't guarantee any insight into how insurance dictates what treatments a person gets, that's their experience of being a doctor. That person can also be head strategist for slapping on new licenses on old pharma products, at Eli Lilly, who loves how insurance dictates what treatments a person gets.
It's very strange, but I value higher education more than you, but I simultaneously cannot give less of a crap about the credibility of a prestigious title. Meanwhile, Fox'News' uses the credibility of a prestigious title to legitimize their talking points, which means their viewers care about prestigious titles.
I know you understand my point, but you just looked for something you could unravel it with. It's easy enough to unravel my point for yourself, just keep an eye on your media and ask yourself if the prestigious title of the person talking actually provide them credibility on the topic. If they never do what I am telling you, then I stand corrected.
That's much more difficult on MSNBC and CNN.
I put 'News' in their name between apostrophes, because they are not a news channel. They completely lack all journalistic integrity, their only goal is to spread an ideology.
"Fox News itself made the argument in court that no reasonable person would consider Tucker Carlson's show on Fox News a credible news source."
The only time a liberal news network ever had to argue that they were voicing an opinion, was when Rachel Maddow was sued. She won, by the way, and OAN has been ordered to pay Maddow and MSNBC’s $250,000 in legal fees.
If MSNBC didn't call themselves a news network, like Fox'News' doesn't,
that lawsuit would have been dead in the water, before it even started.
Thinking something without reason = fooling yourself.
What's your reason for highly doubting what I'm saying?
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I have watched machines, tractors, cars ,etc go for much higher prices than actual market value because the bidder wanted this particular 1 or they were trying to outbid their nemesis.
Anything on the open market is worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay.
Are you going to pay $250,000 for a beat up Ford Focus?
That's what Trump is arguing. Even you should not fall for it.
Mar-a-Lago would only have such value, if the buyer could
clear the property and put a high value skyscraper on it.
It's not worth the money, because those things are all not allowed.
If you say to the 'tax-man' your house is worth $10,000, to pay less taxes,
and you say to the 'bank-man' it's worth $500,000, to get a big loan,
you will get into big big trouble, because that's fraud.
Why wouldn't it be fraud, if Trump is doing exactly that?
NO< you APPLY for a loan, and you are approved or disapproved based on their reseach.
It's the company that is responsible for accurate valuation.
Providing incorrect values is fraud.
Would YOU want to be the 1 that loaned a 100 million dollars on something worth 50 cent if the shit hit the fan? NO,
but it is actually 11,000 sq ft, that's fraud.
On bank statements, Trump valued Mar-a-Lago as high as $739 million.
His tax appraiser’s valuations ranged from $18 million to $37 million.
You try that on your next tax return and get back to me how it worked out.
When I get the tax bill on 1 of my trucks, every 5 years the county does a reevaluation. I get a tax bill based on 5 times what the truck is worth, I have to drive it to the county office, and let the shit hook appraiser look at it, and he says, "we're sorry, it's the computer, it thinks it is a restored truck'.
The whole reason for why he is indicted is because he told
the low value to the tax man and the high value to the bank man.
Wealthy people can get away with this shit, because their taxes
are fucking complicated intentionally and the tax authorities
are defunded, so they are unable to check all those fraudsters.
This is what we discussed a while ago and what Biden wanted to fix.
You might have to go to the county for a reevaluation, but wealthy people
use commercial real estate valuation companies. If a fraud like Trump provides them with false data or keep certain facts from them, they will report an incorrect value. Then there are also rogue valuation companies who help you cook the books in your favor. Or you hire a crooked lawyer, who all arranges it for you, which is what Michael Cohen's job was.
Trump employs lots of crooked lawyers. They are more expensive than normal lawyers, but they have no problem with for instance writing a statement, to the Justice Department, that their client has returned all the classified documents
he stole, and then let some newbie lawyer sign it.
If you tell the bank something they confirm it before taking action.
when I put up some stock for collateral on a loan, they confirmed the stock was worth more than I was borrowing, so they could recover their money if I failed to pay it back.
other than that you don't like them indicting Trump?
Can you show any misrepresentation of the law?
Has any of them been caught with gold bars of unexplained sources?
Are they caught hiding gifts from some rich friend, like Clarence Thomas?
Or is this just your 'common sense' again?
However, neither you or I have a commercial property, Trump's properties ARE commercial properties. The value of a commercial property is also dependent on the commercial activities taking place on the property.
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It is correct that a state tax assessor is responsible for assessing the commercial property value, but they cannot just do that with what they can see or find in archives about the property, they need to be provided accurate revenues and operating expenses. If Trump cooked those numbers, then he has committed tax-fraud. In 2022 two Trump Organization companies were found guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records.
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What is Trump accused of?
Judge Engoron found that Trump, his business and his two adult sons — Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump — fraudulently inflated the value of his assets, lying to tax collectors, lenders and insurers.
An example is Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, which was overvalued on one financial statement by as much as 2,300 percent, according to the court’s findings.
Trump also lied about the size of his Manhattan apartment. He claimed his three-story Trump Tower penthouse was nearly three times its actual size, valuing it at $327m.
The news is that Trump agreed with the low value of one appraiser and (in 2020) said argued that 24 million was too high a value (talking about value for tax purposes). Depending on the legitimacy of the business records he provided, to challenge the valuation of the appraiser, he either also committed tax-fraud, or not.
But a bank is not going to approve a loan that is not guaranteed, so EVEN if it was over valued, which it was not, then that is the lenders fault.
Would you borrow me ten thousand dollars on my saying that I am worth it. I think not. Stop trying the lib spin.
By all means please show us a picture of the estate.
Just bare,rough wooded land around me is 70,000 a acre now or more. If something is for sale,it is worth what the buyer is willing to pay,and what the bank is willing to LOAN on it.
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The value of a property is dependent on location, but also on potential usage.
A piece of land can be in a perfect location, but if building codes only allow
low intensity agriculture there for example, than it is worth way less,
than when building codes allow the development of apartments there.
A property is indeed worth what a buyer is willing to pay,
but what a buyer is willing to pay is dependent on earning potential.
If you can just live there, it's value is comparable with other properties of similar size and luxury on similar locations, which is not hard to valuate, for a specialist.
If a property has the potential to be developed into a very profiting other purpose, like when it's a prime location for waterfront luxury apartments, then the value is much more than other properties of similar size and luxury on similar locations.
Mar-a-Lago comes with many restrictions. The property can be used for what Trump already uses it for and not much else.
Since Mar-A-Lago generates an estimated $10 million yearly revenue, it's not worth what Trump makes it out to be. It's very possible that a better businessman could make more revenue out of that property, but they are not going to pay even 10 times what they expect the yearly revue to be.
For capitalists, you lot really don't understand capitalism.
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Revenue Multiple= Selling Price / Annual Revenue
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If you turn Mar-A-Lago into a spa, the Revenue Multiple would be 0.59.
That would be a commercial value of $5.9 million, at Trumps current revenue.
If a bank loaned Trump 100 million dollars using his golf cart for collateral, and the loan is paid back, there is no crime commited ,no harm done. Just some jealous liberal jurks trying to interfere with the 2024 election.
Yes there is, but you just don't understand it.
It's the job of accountants to understand those big amounts.
But accountants are not coming to measure your penthouse.
They are dependent on accurate, reliable valuations.
And if someone lies on those valuations, they are committing a crime.
That crime disadvantages their other clients, who don't get those loans.
And Trump also paid less taxes due to his crimes, which disadvantages
the taxpayers and the government.
A bank is not going to loan anyone 100 million dollars using a golf cart for collateral, unless their client is doing fraud. If they would do that, they are breaking the law themselves, because they are responsible to their shareholders by law.
You really used all the dumb arguments of your fake news media,
without giving it one extra thought. I've seen them all say the same.
You don't understand big amounts at all, just like you don't understand long time periods. When you say climate change isn't real, because the climate fluctuates
and it was warmer before in the past 500 million years, you are misjudging by factors up to 1,000,000 times. It is like misjudging the distance between New York and Los Angeles as the length of one car. That's not understanding big numbers.
The best way to turn into a socialist, is understanding capitalism and realizing
that what you have in the US doesn't comply with several important principles
of capitalism, like honest competition, consumer sovereignty and employee autonomy. What you have is a kleptocracy.
I can say,the county will. No sooner than my shop was finished and passed the final inspection i was in the back yard when a white car pulled up, a fellow got out with a tape measure and measured size and so forth. the taxes went up quite a bit to afterwards
When will you finally understand that?
IF a fucking bank loans money of any amount on something they have to make sure they can get their money back or at least most of it if the loan is not paid back.
Because, according to you Appraisal Fraud DOESN'T EXIST!
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nOt my typeing,copy and paste.
"What determines the value of property for tax purposes?
Assessed value is the dollar value assigned to a home or other property for tax purposes. It takes into consideration comparable home sales, location, and other factors. Assessed value is not the same as fair market value (what the property could sell for) but is often calculated as a percentage of it."
THe main part again,
'''Assessed value is not the same as fair market value (what the property could sell for) but is often calculated as a percentage of it.""""""
READ THAT twice if you need to,I copied it for you.the main sentence. No nonsense here,facts.
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This clearly states how it is determined what amount you can borrow.
"Trump, along with his sons Don Jr. and Eric, had slammed Engoron as an “unhinged” and “political jack judge” following his ruling in the fraud case last week, with the former president estimating the Florida estate is worth “100 times more than [Engoron] values it.”"
At best property’s fair market value can be 10 times the assessed value, in Mississippi with its 10%. That means he either committed bank fraud or tax-fraud or both.
"How does Florida assess property value for taxes?
The just value is the property's market value. The assessed value is the just value minus assessment limitations (see the Save Our Homes section below)"
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"In Florida, the date of assessment, or valuation, is January 1. The property appraiser determines property values based on the previous year’s market activities."
So what's in state law of Florida? Here's the state law of Washington:
"State law requires that county assessors appraise all property at 100 percent of its true and fair market value in money, according to the highest and best use of the property. Fair market value or true value is the amount that a willing and unobligated buyer is willing to pay a willing and unobligated seller. The county assessor values real property using one or more of three professional appraisal methods."
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"Your property tax is calculated by first determining the taxable value. The taxable value is your assessed value less any exemptions. The taxable value is then multiplied by your local millage rate to determine your ad valorem taxes. Ad valorem taxes are added to the non-ad valorem assessments. The total of these two taxes equals your annual property tax amount."
But it might be an acceptable difference with the assessed value.
It's not the judge who made up that $18 million, Trump did.
For tax purposes, Trump challenged a value of $24 million as TOO HIGH.
But for anything besides taxes, Trump claims Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion.
Valuations of property cannot differ by a factor of 100.
But, if the Saudis want to buy my house for $39 million, they are welcome.
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