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Started by kebmo [Ignore] 19,Jul,18 05:03  other posts
I'm sure a lot of people here don't want to talk about the US President. I am also sure that there are a lot of people that do want to so let's do it here so they won't have to "listen" to us if they choose not to.
I watch a LOT of news, Canadian and American. I don't get Foxx News but I do get CNN and MSNBC which are very left leaning. The two Canadian news networks, CBC News and CTV News are more middle of the road. I watch the late shows too and I especially like Seth Myers' "A Closer Look".

Let's talk Trump!

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By #562152 08,Aug,18 18:23
The only president that ever made sense,,the only one that was able to bring the country forward,,the only president that i would vote for again is THE GREAT OBAMA,,,all else are farts in the wind
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,18 10:45 other posts 
I thought you said you liked Carter? I still have some of his brothers beer in the basement.
By #562152 09,Aug,18 10:55
Oh my G_D,,I forgot about that,,collectors items for sure,,,
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and i do love Mr Jimmy,,i'd give him many kisses and other things, but, as a president,,he sucked the big one in a nice way
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,18 11:31 other posts 
I don't think the cans held up well but still,a good conversation piece for sure.
25 years ago I met a old man that was around during the time of Calvin Coolidge. He griped about that man more than the price of gas. Said he was a DO NOTHING president. I just said ok as I was not around back then! Carter is 1 of those that does good for people,building houses and such and seems like a genuine person. But as you said,just didn't quite cut it as prez. I still remember very well the iran hostage thing.I was in a hospital bed watching tv when he was in germany I think shaking the hands of the hostages and such.
By #562152 09,Aug,18 12:54
yes, and i remember the ultimate insult,,the ayatollah insisted ronald regan the president elect collect the hostages and Mr Jimmy had to swallow that


By JustWill [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 09:49 other posts 
Since taking office, Trump has lied/made misleading statements to the American people 4,229 times (as of 8/1/2018 )
That's an average of 7.6 lies a day.
Here is a sampling:
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By kebmo [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 13:01 other posts 
Crazy eh?
Do you know how to tell Donald Trump is lying? His lips are moving or he posts a tweet!
Oh yeah, also a HUGE tell is every time he uses the terms "in history" or "believe me". Whatever he's referring to when he uses those terms is a GUARENTEED lie.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 14:21 other posts 
Tit for tat,the same comparison was made for Obummer.
If you h@te someone bad enough, you can ruin them somehow if you set your mind to it. I still think we are better off than with the other choice,a 3rd term of Obummer thru Hitllary.
By kebmo [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 14:39 other posts 
Neither Obama or Clinton currently run the country. "Yeah but what about…." I tire of that line. Whataboutism.
By JustWill [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 14:42 other posts 
It's actually the only argument they have, though!
By kebmo [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 15:02 other posts 
"Yeah but what about your ex husband or that other guy you dated? They lied to you more." See? It just doesn't cut it.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 10:48 other posts 
Ok then,so you think the Whataboutism is a problem.
Ok,You throw dirt at our President but yet expect no return fire,and discredit any and all reply's. It is not a cope out argument to express or wonder what the other choice would have done as it would illustrate your argument has no basis either.They would not satisfy everyone either. They would lie in the opposing party's opinion as well..
I compare your statement about whataboutism being our only argument to the fact that NO ONE has had the gonads to say just WHO would do a better job at Prez. You can't answer because you don't know perhaps?we are all guilty of that because of all the media hype.Or you just won't answer because of no defense?
We gota get over that hurdle of not discussing other people as options later as time will go on. We have to all understand each others side to find the middle.Murky but the middle none the less so we can solve world hunger and the energy crisis in a responsible manner without making everyone walk and catch their farts in jars.
By #550094 04,Aug,18 12:30
In my lifetime experience with current and former
presidents, I can say that ALL poliTICKcians are dweebises.
And that is just my opinion.
Some of their ideas I've agreed with, and some of their
ideas I've disagreed with.
They've all done their fair share of good and bad.
But in my eyes, they're also assholes.

In this previous election, our country did NOTHING to
produce Quality candidates for the Presidential Office.
Everyone was too busy sucking up 'Reality' TV shows;
chasing Pokemon creatures throughout the city
( oh, what a Perfect sky-blue harmonious day That was! );
and guzzling down pisswater generic Keystone beer in
their backyards while gossiping about one another.
Meanwhile, every poliTICKal assclown and his/her mother
came out of the wood-works like maggots hoping to
get at that prized carcass.
NONE of those "candidates" were qualified for Office,
and I naturally don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.

No matter who I voted for, or against, it was always
gonna result in yet another asshole in Office.
And, boi, did we end up with an ultimate Asshole
in Office... A GENUINE SHITHOLE!

All the racist sKKKumbags rallied behind him; they were
always too chickenshit to speak their racist xenophobic
homophobic hateful minds openly in public because they
knew their asses whould get handed to them by an
overwhelming community of united American Citizens
who do not tolerate all that racism and prejudice.

SHITHOLE said everything the racist sKKKum wanted to hear.
It's no surprise to me how much racism there is here
in America, as it was always hidden and inbred for
generations until it was emboldened by SHITHOLE
to come out and act on it.
That is some powerful koolaide there it rivals the
one served by the former Reverend asshole Jim Jones!
And the masses of racist sKKKumbags drank that shit up
like sheeple sucking a huge tit!
Their only reason why they voted for and elected
the Orange SHITHOLE was to
"get that n*gger out of office!"...

My country in which I was born and raised has become
So Full-RETARD we've become the laughing stock
of the entire world. Basically a swamp of CRACK WHORRES.
And that Retardation is getting worse by the hour!
I served my country for THIS?????

They bashed "Obummer" for eight long years,
Now it is the SHITHOLE'S turn to get the same treatment.

All previous poliTICKal assclowns aside;
We're not discussing them. They'll get their 15 minutes
of fame in school History books later on.

We're discussing The Genuine SHITHOLE now.

You're welcome.
By JustWill [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 13:27 other posts 
Here's the problem:
We KNOW what the scumbag in the White House is doing. There is daily proof of his incompetence and lies. We have evidence of the damage he is doing, both here and around the world. Our complaints are all PROVABLE--and we can cite FACTS to support what we say. The "wrongness" of Trump is observable.
Your "whataboutism" is based on speculation and conjecture. You can say what you BELIEVE may have happened if someone else had been elected, but that is just make-believe. Since your "whatabouts" never actually happened, your argument is based on nothing but fantasy and supposition. You have no tangible evidence to support your claims. It is a lame argument by virtue of the fact that pretend scenarios prove nothing.
You keep asking "who would do a better job?", but that's the wrong question. Trump sucks as president--he demonstrates that constantly.
The question you should be asking is: Could anyone else possibly do a worse job?
By #550094 04,Aug,18 13:40
Trump is the SHITHOLE our country's Founding Fathers
warned us about. That warning is clearly evident in
plain simple English in the U.S. Constitution.

History exists for a reason, and THIS is a big reason
why it exists.

What boggles my mind is that so many people who
support the SHITHOLE are so happily stuck on STUPID
they don't give a fuck about how THEY have turned
our country upside down.

And they have the audacity to claim "patriotism"
while supporting a TRAITOR.
Just like Jack White sang in one of his songs,
"You can't be a piimp and a prosstitute, too".
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 13:53 other posts 
Yea,someone could do a worse job, look back a few years before him.
I have not saw CREDIBLE evidence yet Trump has done anything to interfere with his actual job,leading the US.
Yes,alot of stuff has been brought up. But proof? Well, a lying tax cheating lawyer is going say whatever it takes to get him a lesser sentence.
Find what you think is a honest man to run for office and leave it to CNN or the New York newspaper.They will conjure up dirt on him. They make money doing it,so they are highly motivated.

I put little stock in what a aging out porn star has to say about a "affair" she had with a billionaire.She is looking to capitalize on the situation and exercise her "power" as a woman to bring down the prez. She was paid to shut up and signed a paper saying she would. So if she will lie there, she will lie elsewhere. IF it even happened.And if it did,she dropped her panties for a billionaire. Most women would.

As for Russia, would you rather be bitching about Trump starting a nuclear war with them as you glow in the dark in some bunker? Or have them sitting down discussing the democrats claims?
There are also what called Rhino's. Republican in name only.
They are just as willing to be traitors to their party if it gets them 5 minutes of fame.
By kebmo [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 21:37 other posts 
Who would do a better job than Donald Trump you ask?

I think compassion is a very beneficial trait of a world leader. If you're a compassionate person you are more likely to care for your populace as a whole and not just individual segments of it.
The ability to unite your people is also paramount to effective leadership. Not all will agree on every topic but general agreement is not an insurmountable task.
Being respected by your populace is also beneficial to a leader because you also have to make tough decisions. Respect and trust go hand in hand so if they respect you they will be more inclined to trust your choices when you have to make the tough decisions that come with leadership.
Things like compassion, trust and benevolence are not signs of weakness, in fact they are signs of strength because it takes great confidence to be a compassionate leader and a confident leader inspires those that they lead.

You asked me who would do a better job than Trump so I just described that person to you. Whatabout that person as president? I don't know who it is but it sure isn't Donald Trump.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 22:49 other posts 
I think we can agree,it would be difficult for either party to find a person with those quality's.That is 1 of the reasons I always ask the question.
I am bumfuzzled myself by my own question. 20 years ago I would have thought maby Lee Iaccoca. Or before he turned on the US and supported Obama, Colin Powell.

I can't disagree with those quality's you mention being important,only a idiot would. Those quality's are not confused with weakness by the US citizen nearly as much as by our foreign enemy's. Try compassion with a enemy with the mindset of Bin Laden for example.It would only lead to more loss of life.
For a person to respect and appreciate compassion,trust and benevolence, they themselves must possess those quality's.
Just how much real compassion do you think Little Rocket man possesses in his heart? I doubt enough to fill a thimble.
Therefore with that sad reality in place,a leader must also have what can be condensed from a large number of fancy words down to a few. He or she must at least figuratively speaking, have BALLS to stand up to a enemy and face them.
By #562152 08,Aug,18 11:30
I agree with you JustWill, but,,it's like trying to climb a greased flag pole,,,I've been getting active on the forums and finally realized,,I don't get laid any extra by ranting about that asshole (Mr President Trump),,,in 2 yrs and 5 months he'll be gone or maybe 6 yrs and 5 months,,then, the country will pick itself up, and like it's always has done,,it will get good again. Until then, i hope Fox News and CNN get into a huge fight in times square, may the biggest liar win,,
By JustWill [Ignore] 08,Aug,18 12:09 other posts 
I actually get laid MORE for ranting here. My partner, who is also not a Trump fan, doesn't let the idiocy bother him as much as it bothers me. If I vent in the forum instead of to him, he is much happier--and I get more naked time as a result.
By #562152 08,Aug,18 12:12
Well,,,at least there's a good thing coming out of it,,sounds like your partner has a caring lover,,,
By JustWill [Ignore] 08,Aug,18 12:17 other posts 
Will's Life Rule #3: You've got to take care of the people who take care of you!
By #562152 08,Aug,18 16:58
@ JustWill,,,my pussy is known as the Florence Nightingale of relations
By kebmo [Ignore] 08,Aug,18 22:24 other posts 
You're welcome Will.
By #562152 08,Aug,18 16:56
Fake news, buddy,,i know it was 4,228 times,,get it right,,


By kebmo [Ignore] 05,Aug,18 15:39 other posts 
CNN was interviewing a bunch of Trump supporters at a rally as they waited for the doors to open and a bunch of them had "Q" signs. The reporter started asking them what Q was. These people are cult members through and through. Not one had any idea what it really "is" when the reporter pressed them and asked about it.
"They're running the country."
"They're the CIA arming the fake news."
"They're the Clintons and Obamas trying to take over the government."

Crazy is overtaking US politics.
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,18 16:39 other posts 
Stupidity is helping crazy overtake.
No one said all trump supporters are smart. At least I didn't. There is a guy down the road here that had all kinds of signs and manikins wearing hats and all in his yard and he would give a thumbs up to me as I went by with my trump sticker on the car and I saw him flip the bird to someone with a Clinton sticker.His yard looked ridicules.
There are over-boarders in all segments of society.
By JustWill [Ignore] 08,Aug,18 12:11 other posts 
In a recent survey, over 40% of the Republicans who participated said that Trump should have the power to shut down news outlets.
Why doesn't this kind of shit scare people more?
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,18 13:23 other posts 
hard to say,I aint even that far of the scale. I would think he should be able to ask a committee or something to look into something that he considers a problem.But 1 man having the power to shut off a media source,that could be a slippery slope.
By #562152 08,Aug,18 16:55
Who said it didn't scare??? That is one of the scariest things i've ever heard in my 51 yrs of life. What's more, the way he's supported it could happen. I'd like to know what percentage of the population would rise up and have a revolution if that happened? (BTW, my name is 'OSE JIMENEZ and I live in Arizonia.)


By #563464 06,Aug,18 05:59
I love Trump. His inauguration was the most epic in history. "I gotta get a grip, you saw me squat." - President Trump
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By kebmo [Ignore] 06,Aug,18 06:35 other posts 
I love it!


By kebmo [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 23:10 other posts 
Donald Trump on Vladimir Putin: "We got along really well and that's a good thing, it's not a bad thing, it's a good thing."
Getting along with members of the G7 would also be a good thing.
By JustWill [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 23:55 other posts 
But the members of the G7 didn't help to get him elected...

To date, none of Trump's advisers know what he talked about with Putin during their meeting in Helsinki. None. The only information they (and the American people) have to go on comes from Putin and his people. Think about that. We have to get our information from the leader of Russia instead of from our own President. That's not only fucked-up, it's pretty damn suspicious.
By kebmo [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 00:01 other posts 
Bill Maher is on. Can't talk. He's back from vacation.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,18 10:40 other posts 
I hit something like a = mark or something don't know what it was.
Anyhow. Some could say it really is not alot of our business what they talked about. We elected Trump and that means we trust him to do the job he was put in for.
Everyone seems to forget Bush Jr driving Putin around his ranch in his f350 years ago.There is photos of it out there on the net.Google it. Do we know everything that was said then? At the very least you have to admit being just the 2 of them in a truck out on a open pasture there was room for private conversation.Or smoking a joint or whatever. For all we know the info we were given was something wrote up in the White house basement by a 14 year old.
We can't verify the truth.
The world will be a better place when Russia and the US can get along.


By phart [Ignore] 27,Jul,18 12:10 other posts 
I just read this morning that over 50 Americans that were lost in North Korea were able to finally come home.
The meeting between Trump and Kim was most of the reason why.
Now,I am sure if you try hard enough,you will find a way to put a negative spin that news.To me it is good news and will bring a small amount of comfort to family's here in the US.
Question,do any of you feel like Hillary would have sat down with Kim and at least began talks to accomplish even the smallest of goals such as bringing home our dead?

It is my opinion, that her attitude would be,"what difference will it make".
By kebmo [Ignore] 27,Jul,18 14:47 other posts 
Their repatriation is a great thing.
By #557142 27,Jul,18 15:42
Hmmm, a friend to the dead and a mortal enemy to the living
By JustWill [Ignore] 27,Jul,18 21:23 other posts 
The repatriation of those remains is, indeed, a good thing. I am happy that those families can finally lay their loved ones to rest on American soil and get a bit of closure.
I am sure that it was all Trump's idea to ask for that to happen.
He is truly the bestest president ever!
I am glad that Putin helped to get him elected.

Here's a question for you:
President Obama got Osama bin Laden. Had him killed as dead as a door nail. Does that mean that you'll agree that he, too, was the bestest president ever? (Surely one dead mastermind of the 9/11 attacks is at least equal to the repatriated remains of 50 soldiers, no?)
By phart [Ignore] 27,Jul,18 23:47 other posts 
Bin laden was tracked,found and supposedly killed by the military with some involvement by the cia and fbi, Obama ok'd the job , being done so he could strut around.which yes I am glad he did, We are supposed to believe that Bin laden is in the ocean somewhere. Are you confident he is?
His **** lives here in the states you know.
It was not Trumps idea to get those men returned. Remains have trickled in for years. But he did sit down and talk to the leader of NK and it was discussed and done as promised.
BTW, take a few minutes to google what Putin had to say today while in South Africa. The man makes alot of sense. The world is safer when the US and Russia are on speaking terms.
By JustWill [Ignore] 28,Jul,18 10:50 other posts 
"We are supposed to believe that Bin laden is in the ocean somewhere. Are you confident he is?"
Seriously?
Are you one of those people who believes the moon landing was faked, too?
By kebmo [Ignore] 28,Jul,18 12:37 other posts 
Vaccines cause autism, the earth is flat and the US government killed Kennedy, you know, the usual stuff.
By phart [Ignore] 29,Jul,18 23:44 other posts 
Not going that far with it.Earth is round,Johnson,with help from the mob killed Kennedy in my thinking. Moon landing,I am somewhat iffy on that 1.I mean really,the stakes were high.The US was willing to do anything.Flags flapping when there is no source of wind on the moon is kinda fishy.
But back on topic,
My thinking is Osama knew to much.He was more valuable alive than dead to glean info from to prevent further attacks. Deaths can be faked. If you look at things that have happened since, nothing as large scale as 9-11. Could it be the gov learned info to stop stuff in time? Now don't take what I said as i don't want him dead,of course I want him erased from the earth.Dead is to good for the ass-wipe but I just can't help but take that info of him being dead and in the ocean as gospel.considering the source of the info is the government.
By kebmo [Ignore] 30,Jul,18 20:00 other posts 
The US wanted Bin Laden DEAD. They didn't want to risk him being saved by his henchmen. Consider that scenario, the US catches him and he somehow escapes. That would not go over well with the US public would it? Oh we had him but he escaped. Dead was the only option. I'm pretty sure there was a shoot to kill order on him. Obama was also apposed to "enhanced interrogation techniques" so they couldn't beat the truth out of him. As for burial at sea, that makes sure there isn't a shrine to honour him. What would you want to see done with his body?
If he wasn't shot dead on the spot he would still be alive in a US prison exercising his "rights" wouldn't he?
By #562152 30,Jul,18 18:06
Every one has good and bad intentions. Many times, people do the wrong or right thing in spite of themselves. Only a pattern of poor judgment calls or actions can define a person's ability to do a job, like lead a nation
By kebmo [Ignore] 02,Aug,18 18:13 other posts 
The bodies of and estimated 7,700 Americans are still in North Korea.

-PBS News
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,18 18:49 other posts 
Although some may disagree, as long as we are on speaking terms with NK,the chances of those remains coming home is better.
Yes before someone brings it up a satellite showed some activity around a missile factory. I would think it is kinda like a k1d seeing if his parents are watching as he reaches for the cookie jar.Testing to see if we are watching.And of course the media had to blare out to the world that we were. It would have been better to have kept it quiet a while.
By kebmo [Ignore] 02,Aug,18 20:57 other posts 
It's never been a $ecret that the US can spy on North Korea from space. Nobody said anything that the world didn't already know.
By JustWill [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 07:51 other posts 
But...da MEDIA IS da ENEMA OF da PEEPLES!!!!!!!!
Everybody knows that all the bad stuff that happens is because of the media. Comrade Trump--who was sent down from Heaven to save us all--says so, and you know, just like our greatest president, Abraham Washington, he can not tell a lie!
By #562152 03,Aug,18 09:54
@JustWill,,you are wrong, wrong, wrong,,it was George Lincoln that said that,,
By JustWill [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 12:24 other posts 
Sorry, my mistake. I get those two confused. Abraham Washington was the one who never paid hush money to porn actresses...
By #562152 03,Aug,18 15:23
just liked golden showers on the cherry bush
By #562152 03,Aug,18 09:51
@phart, like Kebmo said, it's a great think to bring back our men home. As far as Hilary sitting down with that murderous tyrant, I don't know,,and who cares,,she's not president. As far as what we've got from N Korea, these remains have been kept in poor condition. A report yesterday said that the remains are mixed with other remains including non human bones and in many case, just thrown together. This is not a negative spin, but, when WWII ended,the remains of both sides of the conflict (and there were huge amounts) where handled with dignity. We all like to bend our knee to honor our fallen heroes, but, if you ask a military man, he'll tell you that friend or foe is worthy of respect. If you still think I'm putting a negative spin on this, so be it,
By phart [Ignore] 03,Aug,18 14:18 other posts 
Naw I understand what you are saying. Sadly it could have been deliberate as some folks in NH probably still **** our guts and mixed in stuff.Who knows. I do know it happens by accident to because a local rescue squad was sued because they mixed a man and woman's remains from a small plane crash.But they were mangled and 7 feet in the ground mixed in with engine parts and wires.Kinda hard to sort out.There is a very slim chance that could have happened in NH depending on where the dead were found and what the cause was. And sadly,the remains are old and exposed to the elements didn't help.


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