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Trump/Pence or Biden/Harris...Which do you feel will prevail???

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 09,Sep,20 03:45  other posts
Trump has been somewhat erratic at times...But look at Creepy sleepy uncle joe...Pence pretty clean, but not totally...Harris, now I wonder like I do with uncle joe...??? (I agree it is about 50/50 with the flaws concerning both parties)...༼☯﹏☯༽

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,May,23 07:26 other posts 
Don't you just know that this acknowledgement that mothers exist
is the only thing Melania got on Mother's Day from Donald?

By #610414 19,May,23 08:20
I thought he was hatched.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 04:59 other posts 
No, as disgraceful as it is to the human race, he is still a human being.
But the only way to breed a man with that strange mix of narcissism and
inferiority complexes, you need an unscrupulous, racist billionaire father
and a cold-hearted gold-digger mother, who don't love him, are disappointed
with his mental capability and installs within them a sigma of not living up to
his father and a perfect case of affluenza.

I would feel sorry for him, if he showed any sign of self-awareness or remorse.
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,May,23 07:07 other posts 
Why should he get her anything she is not his mother I didn’t get Marcy anything for Mother’s Day because she is not my mother
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 08:41 other posts 
You don't? Most husbands do something for their wife if she's a mother
and most wives do something for their husband if he's a father.
Melania is not just his wife, but also a mother to his son.

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Four sources agree with me. Of course they might be commercially biassed, but that's how all of our celebrations get commercialized. We never had Valentine's Day or Halloween, until commerce pushed it upon us. Now try to wiggle yourself out of the expectation to do something on those days. Your other half will not like that. Now you can still ignore that, but people will judge you to be a self-centered prick for it.
And especially Trump should know there are some obligations to having a gold-digging trophy wife. It comes with the obligation of regular presents. He seems to forgo his duties consistently, so he's 'not getting any'. At least, not from Melania.
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,May,23 09:19 other posts 
Hahaha trump will just grab some strange at the grocery store
--------------------------------------- added after 59 seconds

And I mean that literally
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 10:48 other posts 
Sure, he will, but it gets him into trouble so much.
Why can't he just visit or order a professional?
At least that's legal in several states, right?
And they don't ask $130,000 to keep silent.
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,May,23 15:04 other posts 
Prostitution is illegal in the United States but there are plenty of websites for hookups
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,May,23 08:47 other posts 
Not in Nevada. I've seen it on a Louis Theroux documentary.
I thought there were more states that legalized it to some extent.
Still, if you film it and call it porn, then it's legal. Top tip!

"Currently, Nevada is the only U.S. jurisdiction to allow legal prostitution – in the form of regulated brothels – the terms of which are stipulated in the Nevada Revised Statutes. Only eight counties currently contain active brothels."

Unless this information is out of date.
By #610414 24,May,23 09:54
Dgraff, Charlie gives me flowers and a gift(s) plus a poem he publishes in Facebook every Mothers Day, but, he also wishes every mother a Happy Mother’s Day. This is his post in Facebook to Moms.
The very best people I know are Moms. Mother's Day should be every day. Have a wonderful Mother's Day. Love you all very much. 🌹🌹🌹❤️

I think Marcy would like it very much if you got her flowers if nothing else.
By dgraff [Ignore] 24,May,23 11:19 other posts 
Very nice poem
By tecsan [Ignore] 24,May,23 01:31 other posts 
Now you think you are funny Ananas2xLekker
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,May,23 08:43 other posts 
The Donald was being pretty funny there.
He wants the left to be 'Kinder, Gentler, Softer, and most importantly, Smarter...'
That's exactly what the left wants the right to be.
By tecsan [Ignore] 25,May,23 00:11 other posts 
Still trying to be funny, imagine an intelligent libtard. Now that is funny.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,May,23 07:27 other posts 
Sure, and that's why there are so many right-wingers who are scientists
and philosophers, and so many liberals who are young-earth creationists,
flat-earthers and climate-science-deniers, right? Oh, it's the other way around?
And that's because of intelligence? Delusional is the appropriate term.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,May,23 05:35 other posts 
Another reason to investigate Donald Trump over, just came up.

Several years ago, there were rumors that Trump and Giuliani were selling pardons
to law-breaking rich people. There was however a lack of evidence to start investigations
into that obvious corruption. The fact alone, that Donald Trump granted executive clemency to 237 individuals (by issuing a total of 143 pardons) charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses, is not evidence of corruption. It's just a very suspicious list.
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However, a former employee of Rudy Giuliani, named Noelle Dunphy, is suing Giuliani
for $10 million over allegations of sexual assault and harassment, wage theft and “other misconduct,” including several instances that were recorded, according to a complaint filed Monday. It seems that the recorded evidence also contains evidence on Rudy Giuliani telling people that he had a deal with Trump for selling pardons at $ 2 million per client, which they were splitting 50/50.

That's a valid reason to add another investigation on Trump's crimes and corruption.
By #610414 19,May,23 08:21
Long litany of crimes. Eventually we'll see him behind bars.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 04:34 other posts 
It should be easy as pie to convict him. He has admitted to several of his crimes on live TV. Have you seen that CNN Town Hall? I have seen some parts. He's being an absolute lunatic and the crowd is cheering. Couldn't CNN at least have put together an audience of mostly sane people?

At one point he is describing in detail how he accompanied E. Jean Carroll in a dressing room and the next minute he denies even knowing her. Any judge should just determine any word of Trump to be a lie by default.

“He is confessing on live TV”: Legal experts say Trump’s CNN town hall could badly backfire in court
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By #610414 23,May,23 08:52
I could be wrong but I think he’s showing signs of senility.
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,May,23 07:09 other posts 
Yeah him and Biden can have adjoining cells
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 08:31 other posts 
Here are some of the legal matters going on against Trump (not a complete list).
The investigations into his classified documents case were not even mentioned.
Even his former White House Lawyer Ty Cobb expects Trump to go to jail for that.

Insurrection
- DC attorney general investigating Trump over January 6 riots
- Congresspeople suing Trump over Capitol attacks
- Representative Swalwell suing Trump and others for Capitol riots
- Seven Capitol police officers sue Trump
- Two Capitol police officers sue Trump
- Two DC metro police officers sue Trump over Capitol riot
- Capitol police officer Marcus J Moore sues Trump over January 6 riot

Financial
- Criminal investigation into tax crimes and insurance fraud
- Westchester golf course investigation for underreported property value
- New York state attorney general investigates Trump Organization for real estate property value fraud
- Misuse of 2017 inauguation money
- Mary Trump fraud suit
- Trump Corporation class-action suit

Election interference
- Fulton county election interference investigation
- NAACP sues Trump and RNC for trying to overturn election results

Sexual misconduct
- E Jean Carroll defamation suit #1 (found liable)
- E Jean Carroll defamation suit #2

Other
- Former top Ukraine adviser sues Trump for retaliation
- Trump Tower assault suit
- Michael Cohen suit for sending him back to prison as a retaliatory measure

What do you have on Biden then?
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,May,23 08:40 other posts 
The same thing you have on trump a lot of investigations that are going nowhere because they are both very rich and can buy their way out
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,May,23 10:57 other posts 
Haven't seen any list like that on Biden.

Don't expect Trump to get away with all of that.
There is a good chance he goes down for those documents.
And there is mountains of evidence on the election interference.
That's something even rich guys don't get away with.

E Jean Carroll defamation suit #2 is also a shoo-in, but that
won't land him in jail, just makes him pay her more money.
And he'd better not use campaign money to pay her, or it's
another legal matter on that long list.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Apr,23 12:30 other posts 
MyPillow Guy Ordered To Pay $5 Million To Man Who Proved His Data Wrong
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By #610414 05,May,23 17:17
The jerk deserves it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,May,23 17:55 other posts 
He bluffed and then he lost. That's just fair game.
He's crazy, but I still like the guy, in some way.
By tecsan [Ignore] 06,May,23 02:35 other posts 
He is a bit annoying to me.
By phart [Ignore] 06,May,23 13:05 other posts 
Yea, he gets on my nerves,either you have evidence or you don't quit dragging it on. As far as 5 million, that is to damn much.
I mean on 1 hand the pillow guy came from a broke dope head to owning and operating a successful business. His doing that deserves some credit where it is due.But 1 of 2 things, show the evidence or shut the fuck up.THat is why when he comes on tv I mute the damn thing.He did alot of damage to the creditability the republican party
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,May,23 06:30 other posts 
He signed a contract. If someone could prove there was no fraud, according to specified standards of evidence, then he would pay that person $5 million.
The person provided the evidence required, and then Lindell wouldn't pay.
So he went to court, provided the evidence and won. Now Lindell has to pay.

It was Lindell's own dumb bluff, that causes him to pay that $5 million.
It also shows his 'evidence' is bullshit.

The Republican party damaged itself, by supporting Trump's big lie.
They ALL knew it was a lie, but just tagged along, when it had a chance
of working out in their favor. So, what credibility are you talking about?

I guess I just have a soft spot for dumb patsies.
Here's an interview with they guy who exposed Lindell's evidence as garbage.
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By #275407 30,Mar,23 17:42
Trump has just been indicted, wow
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 05:26 other posts 
Yeah, they finally found their balls.

Hopefully not just for these small potatoes.
He still needs to face consequences for trying to overturn the election.

Even a former president should be held accountable for breaking the law.
If he's found guilty in a fair law process, he should be sentenced according to law.
If a fair law process shows he's innocent, then he's innocent.
Or do the 'law and order' people disagree?

By dgraff [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 07:13 other posts 
I totally agree rumor has it that if trump is found guilty and goes to sentencing Joe Biden will pardon him for his crimes
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 07:39 other posts 
I would not say that is impossible, if Biden had the authority.

However, this seems to be a state court and not a national court?
Trump is indicted by a Manhattan grand jury.

"The President's authority to grant clemency is limited to federal offenses and offenses prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States in the D.C. Superior Court. An offense that violates a state law is not an offense against the United States."
By phart [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 13:10 other posts 
There may come a time when biden may have to choose to Pardon Trump if anything is done that would require it.
Simply to bring peace back to the country.
Democrats think they can take a turd of a charge and polish it up to mesmerize the entire population into hating Trump.
Wrong.
Millions of Americans are TIRED of what is going on.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Apr,23 03:46 other posts 
The process of law and order should not depend on popularity.
If a judge finds Trump guilty of meddling in the election or
attempted insurrection, then Biden should not pardon him.
No one is above the law. Even powerful people should face consequences.

I understand that it's ironic for the people who chanted 'Lock her up!' about a Democratic presidential candidate. But, if that's your attitude, over something like a private email server, why should Democrats care about your feelings for your guy, who broke the law 1000x more?

Republicans investigated Benghazi 10 times and didn't find anything, but still keep talking about throwing Obama in prison. They investigated Hillary for three years and found nothing criminally enforceable.
It's on Trump himself that when Democrats investigate him, they find more shit than in the New York sewer system. You could learn from this and not elect candidates again who disrespects the law as much as Trump. He has been a crook for decades, but that's the guy you all fell in love with. That's very tiresome to people who actually care about law and order, and not just for the large majority of Americans.
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Apr,23 02:03 other posts 
Do more research on where and by whom supposed 'insurrections' occurred. Ananas2xLekker
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Apr,23 04:23 other posts 
With research, I am sure you mean; read into right-wing conspiracy theories,
blaming Antifa and the FBI. Am I correct?

Trump can present his evidence on that in court.
I'm sure you support him being given the opportunity for that.

So let them hurry up and get him indicted, because at this moment,
Trump is the prime suspect. We all saw him motivate a big crowd of people
to go to the capital to 'stop the steal' and 'fight like hell'.
And we saw him build up to that, even months before the election,
spreading rumors about election fraud, which all were proven to be false,
while Republicans were putting in place fake electors.
By #610414 05,May,23 17:19
Millions of dumb Americans
By phart [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 11:44 other posts 
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Democrats are showing their colors and some people are So fucking blind and deaf
By tecsan [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 20:24 other posts 
Yeah, the Republicans need to grow a pair and indict H (rotten) C and Mr Magoo. Far more crimes with those two idiots. You know it is true Ananas2xLekker

Forgot that a socialist probably likes law breaking when it favors their side.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Apr,23 00:23 other posts 
I say drop it all. Stop chasing Trump and the rest.
Put all that effort to fixing the country.
By tecsan [Ignore] 01,Apr,23 03:39 other posts 
I agree, we need to focus on ourselves FIRST.
"Put all that effort to fixing the country."
Like banning books, jailing women who have abortions in blue states
and demonizing transgender kids?
"Far more crimes with those two idiots. You know it is true Ananas2xLekker."

No, I have seen nothing worth mentioning.
But please, put a list here or a link to a list,
of all the crimes that Hillary and Biden have committed.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Mar,23 17:24 other posts 
Copu and paste of email from Thom Tillis.
It seems that there is no case as decided by a judicial body far above the Da in new york


Friends,
The indictment of former President Donald Trump simply doesn’t pass the smell test.

The Department of Justice already looked into the facts and decided there was no case to be made against the former President. That didn’t matter to Alvin Bragg, the District Attorney who lets violent criminals off the hook in Manhattan, but has been laser-focused on pursuing a politicized prosecution of President Trump.

Politics should never tip the scales of justice, and I believe that Congress has every right to investigate the conduct and decision-making of the Manhattan D.A.’s office in the coming weeks and months.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Apr,23 04:56 other posts 
You BELIEVE that Congress has every right to investigate
the conduct and decision-making of the Manhattan D.A.’s?
There are laws for what congress is allowed to investigate.
They either have the right or they don't.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,May,23 16:09 other posts 
This is what a lot of Democratic voters think of Biden running for re-election:
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How Trump’s Privilege Protects Him From Accountability At Every Turn
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By #679615 24,Mar,23 02:46
Its nothing but a fucking joke anyway
By phart [Ignore] 24,Mar,23 10:04 other posts 
Yea,it may be a joke to some people but Millions are suffering in different ways because of this so called joke for a administration headed by sleepy joe.
By #679615 26,Mar,23 04:21
The only way the USA will prevail will be when they clean up the elections. Hard thing to do since cheating has existed since 1776 but if we are to survive there needs to clean up the elections or no chance.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Mar,23 11:21 other posts 
And Voter id could easily be 1 ingredient in the solution to restore confidence in the process.
By tecsan [Ignore] 29,Mar,23 00:41 other posts 
Not to mention that the majority of the clean up needs to come from the democrat's side of the aisle.
By #679615 09,Apr,23 01:35
democrats and MOST republicans. Majority of them are traitorist liars. The elections are one thing,,,,, its almost impossible because the liberal fucking bastard judges are appointed for life and they are protecting the crooks in washington..
By tecsan [Ignore] 09,Apr,23 05:04 other posts 
Sorry, you lost me with liberal judges.
It is a fucking joke, to have just two bad choices, to vote for.
But, at least, it's one choice more than people have in China, Russia,
Saudi Arabia or North Korea.
So better appreciate that choice, as long as they allow you one.
There are still some politicians who support providing more choices.
You could try voting for them in the primaries.
Maybe some day voting will feel less like a joke then.
By #679615 01,Apr,23 02:03
Don't you see it? It IS china, russia, saudi arabia, NK, palestine, united nations, vatican, United States and the puppets here are only bastards from hell that represent and create smoke screens.. The demons are what is said above.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Apr,23 04:00 other posts 
Those demons are MONEY. Your politicians don't represent people and they don't represent China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, Palestine or the Vatican either.
They only represent their donors and they don't care if those donors live in America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, Palestine or the Vatican.
And those donors like it when their money is used to create smoke screens.
It's what they pay your corporate media and grifters on YouTube for.
Follow the money and see where it ends up.

By the way, why are you forgetting Israel? The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, has spent more than $12 million during the current election cycle in direct donations, and millions more through coordinated Super PACs, to oppose any candidate who questions or challenges Israel. Or do you like those bribes?

That's what happens if you let your politicians decide that millions of dollars in campaign funding, is 'free speech' and not corruption.
You make it way to easy for your politicians to blame hell and demons.
Blame voters, who voted for the politicians who made bribes legal.
By #679615 04,Apr,23 02:42
These politicians are supported by the lobby elitists. Isn't that what I said in the first place? I agree but this has been going on since before Christ.
Israel has been under attack since before Christ also. But it too has the left in support of Palestine. I believe their power has been diminished since Netanyahu came back into power. Since they tried to put him in jail is the same tactic they are doing to Trump now. Same game plan.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Apr,23 05:25 other posts 
The lobby elitists? They are just paid representatives of the wealthy and corporations. You're correct that money has played a big role in politics, as long as there is politics. It's the people who should prevent that from getting out of control.

That's the nice thing about democracy; every person just gets one vote.
If however, those 'lobby elitists' succeed in making people think that money = speech and people vote for politicians who put into law, that the wealthy and corporations can give them unlimited amounts of money, then it's the voters who gave away their representation to those 'lobby elitists'.

And why get hell and demons into the discussion? I don't like lobbyists and the wealthy and corporations corrupting my representatives, but although they are selfish, I don't think they are evil enough to call them demons from hell. They are just using the system to enrich themselves. I think that system is bad for people, so I support alternatives for that system. Do you?

Israel didn't exist until 1948. That region was called Palestine before. Before that, it has been ruled by almost every country around it, every religion under the sun and later by western conquerors. I don't care that Jews claim that region was promised to them by God, because other religions claim the same thing. People of different religions have lived there for thousands of years, so it doesn't belong to just one group. Whenever one group tries to conquer the whole area for themselves, I consider the conquerors to be the bad group. Netanyahu is one of the biggest supporters of conquering the whole area and he is acting on it with violence and human rights abuses, so he is a very bad guy, in my opinion. He should be in jail for human right abuse, but if they can get him for also being a corrupt politician, that's completely warranted. I find it strange how you call corrupt politicians demons and then simultaneously defend the most corrupt politicians.

If there is nothing to go after, than 'they' can't put them in jail. Or is your brain messed-up enough, for you to think that the law is broken completely? If so, who does it serve now? Those demons from China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, Palestine, United Nations and the Vatican? That's almost the whole world outside of the US.
When guys like phart call out a name, for 'they' it's billionaire George Soros, a JEW. So somehow, George Soros, a Jew, represents all of the world outside of the USA, including the Vatican, but not Israel. Do you support that 'logic'?

Why don't you just follow the money and see that most of the dollars corrupting your politicians are coming from Big Pharma, Big oil, Big Tech, Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex. They just want lower taxes for themselves and lower wages for people. And your politicians love to give it to them, because they are rich too.
Are you still voting for those corrupt assholes? You seem to think it's not those corrupt assholes who keep that corrupt system alive, but it's demons from China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, Palestine, United Nations and the Vatican. So what is your solution? Don't you think that it would help to make it illegal for politicians to take money from Big Pharma, Big oil, Big Tech, Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex and China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, NK, Palestine, United Nations, the Vatican and pro-Israel lobby groups? How about creating laws that make your politicians just represent their VOTERS? Are there still some politicians left that you can vote for, who support taking money out of politics?
By #679615 04,Apr,23 22:47
I've been a deplorable since 2015. I'm registered. Desantis should be the ticket in 2028 but he's not ready yet in 2024. With the deep state as the enemy I think Trump has more experience dealing with them. I'm just pissed that he choosed the wrong people for the job, such as sessions, Barr, Pence who is a traitor I don't give a fuck what people tell me. You are right that the establishment controls both the democrats and republicans. Trump is a rogue from this and it's a miracle he hasn't been killed yet. If somehow, we win the election, he's going to have to be absolutely sure he picks the right district attorney this time who knows who to hire as special prosecutors. My suggestion would be Rudolf Guiliani.
It's just that the justice system in this country is Rotton down to the core. as a citizen I believe in democracy and education. I'll do what I can but if the elections are fucked up this time there will be no more democracy left to repair.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Apr,23 06:13 other posts 
I don't consider you a 'deplorable'. I'm sure you want the best thing for your country.
I just think you are confused, if you think that Trump or DeSantis are good for your country.

If you believe in democracy, you would not support Trump, because he tried to destroy democracy. The justice system in your country at least worked in that case, because they dismissed all of Trumps cases of fraud, because he didn't have the smallest shred of evidence. Every investigation into the elections showed that the fraud Trump claimed existed, did not exist. Trump was lying from months before the election, until today. Meanwhile, there are piles of evidence that Republicans were trying to overturn the election with fake electors and we have all heard how Trump was trying to get election officials to 'find' non-existent votes.

Why would you still suggest Rudolf Giuliani, after he made a mess of everything he did and is now disgraced by Trump, for not paying him, not returning his loyalty when he got into trouble for Trump, and turning his reputation from the respected mayor of New York during 9/11, into that dumb-ass that lied for Trump, who stood in front of a landscaping business, had leaking hair-dye, farted on camera and tried to fuck 'Borat's daughter'? If you want a better justice system in your country, don't support that loser.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Apr,23 23:44 other posts 
2 partys ,sure,not alot to choose from
BUT if you mix in 2 more partys, then all it does is divide the votes up to the point that the ruling party will probably stay in.
For example ,if Trump does not get the republican nomination. He decides to run under a 3rd party ticket. The election would go back to the democrats because the conservative vote would be divided.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Apr,23 06:22 other posts 
You don't understand any other democracy but your own. There is no 'ruling party',
if there are enough parties to ensure there is never one party powerful enough to rule on its own and when the people have the opportunity to drop one party that has not worked for them and vote for another.

It's your winner-takes-all-system, where you are forced to vote for either one of the two major parties, that results in both parties not representing their voters, but just their donors. In a system where multiple parties can cooperate with each other to create a majority of seats, you can just vote for a '3rd party ticket' and they could still become part of the majority group, passing laws and shaping the country. In time, such a '3rd party' can even become the biggest party. That is almost impossible in your system.

You, as a conservative, could just vote for the conservative party that best represents all of your interests and when the conservatives than have a majority, your party then gets in the cabinet, where they work to represent all of your interests. And when conservatives do not have a majority, but other interests you have do have a majority, your party often still becomes part of the cabinet and works with other parties who share those interests to get them represented.
You think you are either fully winning or fully losing in your system, but you are not.
It's just the partisanship that both parties created, often by working together, to make you think that. You are losing either way. They are just making you feel satisfied and think like you won anything, when they make the other side lose even more.


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