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Trump/Pence or Biden/Harris...Which do you feel will prevail???

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 09,Sep,20 03:45  other posts
Trump has been somewhat erratic at times...But look at Creepy sleepy uncle joe...Pence pretty clean, but not totally...Harris, now I wonder like I do with uncle joe...??? (I agree it is about 50/50 with the flaws concerning both parties)...༼☯﹏☯༽

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Oct,23 08:16 other posts 
Trump 'failed' U.S.: Icon Bob Woodward talks 'Trump Tapes' with Ari Melber
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I don't watch MSNBC a lot, but this was a good analysis.
By tecsan [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 02:55 other posts 
You dont watch MSDNC a lot, hell even 30 seconds is too damn long.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 07:42 other posts 
I watch MSNBC about as much as Fox'News'. The latter is much worse.
There is some truth on MSNBC. I haven't seen it on Fox'News' for a long time.

The Woodward tapes are all Trump's own words.
They show what type of man Trump is; a lying narcissistic failure.
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Nov,23 00:52 other posts 
MSDNC, what a load of crap. You love standing up for liars and mis-information I see.
By #681164 01,Nov,23 09:51
Both of you guys are arguing about news outlets. Argue about the content. Trump was the worst President in my lifetime, no matter who reported about him. I laugh how his supporters make all the excuses for his fuckups and downright stealing, not to mention his narcissistic attitude that it was his way or the door way. I won’t address his racist politics. That is equal to the politics of his supporters. My take on his supporters? They are the “athletic type”
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 10:47 other posts 
It was me just anticipating a reaction on the source,
without any reaction on the content, which is what I got.

The Woodward Tapes are about Trump's failure to protect Americans against COVID-19, while he knew how dangerous it was, but intentionally choose to call it
a hoax and not organizing the right countermeasures, resulting in the deaths of over
a million Americans, mostly his own supporters, because they believed his lies.

The funny thing is that Trump even gets praise in that MSNBC video
for 'organizing' the quick development of the vaccines.
If he didn't also let the right-wing media spread fear about those vaccines,
many gullible lives could have been saved.
By #681164 01,Nov,23 11:03
On that I agree with Mr Woodward and many other non-partisan critics.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 10:51 other posts 
The Department of Justice – in an explosive new filing – is calling Donald Trump a menace to society, and is demanding that a federal judge in DC not only reimpose her gag order on him, but also make as a condition of his release from custody that he no longer attack witnesses or face JAIL TIME.
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By #610414 26,Oct,23 12:26
He should be in jail awaiting his trial. He’s like a mobster using intimidation to get witnesses to not testify.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 11:02 other posts 
He should be, but I prefer them fining him exponentially more and more money,
each time he intimidates or threatens a witness, prosecutor, judge or law-clerk.
If he gets a weekend in prison, he will only become even worse.
Better save prison for the crimes he's indicted for.

Here is another MSNBC video (I think the YouTube algorithm knows I like
some of them now) explaining why those gag orders are necessary.
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(yes MSNBC, but if anyone want to comment on that, comment on the content too)
By #610414 01,Nov,23 12:18
I would like jail time because he would get worse. That man doesn’t know when to shut up for his own good.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 12:20 other posts 
OK, one weekend then, just to make him say even crazier shit.
You convinced me.
By #610414 01,Nov,23 12:32


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Nov,23 12:16 other posts 
Trump Says Former GOP Rep ‘Can Do Things With His Tongue You Wouldn’t Believe’
in Vegas Speech.
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By #610414 01,Nov,23 12:19
??? 🤣🤣🤣😈


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 07:47 other posts 
The large majority of Americans consider Trump's actions,
for which he is indicted, either 'illegal' or 'unethical'.


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Still think he can win in 2024?
By phart [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 10:00 other posts 
We sure as hell don't need 4 more years of this bumbling idiot.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 10:27 other posts 
Trump is a bumbling idiot too! But he's also a criminal, and a pathetic cry-baby.

Even in a FOX Poll, only 40% thinks Joe Biden did something illegal, 29% thinks
he did something unethical and 28% thinks he did nothing wrong.
Funny thing is, if you ask them what that 'something' is, they have no clue.

How about you show a poll on how much Americans are disagreeing with what Biden
is DOING?
By #610414 26,Oct,23 12:32
Idiot or not, he was LAWFULLY elected, and, in this country, at least, we go with the majority of the electorate. A lawful voter has the right to choose any LAWFUL candidate to win. We, as LAWFUL and just voters, should support whom ever is elected. Criticism is ok. In fact, that’s how we should support any incumbent. It’s the American Way. Without facts, with innuendos, that’s not democratic. It’s third world Banana Republic politics.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 15:47 other posts 
Trump was lawfully elected in 2016 and you and others fought him tooth and nail, so you are being a little hypocritical there.
By #610414 26,Oct,23 18:23
Maybe you should read my post again. Don’t do like you do when you post an article in some offbeat news publication. Read and try to understand EVERYTHING said, and, for your information, somewhere in the past, in some thread, there’s an entry by me that says, “Right or wrong, he’s my President.”. That was right after The Clown won the 2016 election.
--------------------------------------- added after 2 minutes

Criticism is allowed as long as it’s truthful and delivered in a just manner. Your boy, and this is happening right now, doesn’t take suggestions very well. He’s his own worst enemy.
No they didn't, Trump got every tax-cut that he wanted.
How many times did Democrats almost shutdown the government?
The fighting only started after Trump almost stole the election.

Why don't you give some examples of that fighting him tooth and nail?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 13:21 other posts 
According to Australian billionaire Anothony Pratt, Donald Trump wanted his wife Melania to strut around Mar-a-Lago wearing only a bikini so that he could show her off to all of the club members and try to make them jealous.
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By #610414 26,Oct,23 12:36
He has no shame, and to his ardent MAGA supporters, this is NOT to show off his wife’s beauty as a proud husband should be. This is a “I’m better because I got fantastic arm candy, losers”.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Oct,23 05:52 other posts 
Why Jenna Ellis flipping is likely the nail in the coffin for Trump and Rudy:
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Oct,23 12:07 other posts 
Mark Meadows flips too!

"Mark Meadows Spills to Special Counsel About Trump’s Election Lies: Report"
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"Mark Meadows Flipped, And People Are Imagining How Trump Will React"
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"Mark Meadows Given Immunity To Testify About Trump And 2020 Election, Report Says"
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Oct,23 12:26 other posts 
See Trump lawyer Sidney Powell plead guilty, agree to testify / Full hearing
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Of course, Trump is now saying that she never was his lawyer or that he hardly knows her, but he introduced her in 2020, when Trump sent out a tweet stating that Powell was a member of “a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives.” Powell was listed by name alongside two of Trump’s other attorneys, Rudy Guiliani and Jenna Ellis. You can be sure that Trump gets very nervous from Sidney Powell flipping.

Look at that, Jenna Ellis is also flipping:
"Watch Jenna Ellis plead guilty in Georgia election interference case"
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The question is now; when does Rudy flip?
Is he really going to spend the remainder of his life in prison for Trump?
He used to be America's favorite mayor and now he's disgraced and bankrupt.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Oct,23 05:12 other posts 
Trump says 'Republicans eat their young'
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By phart [Ignore] 16,Oct,23 10:49 other posts 
So do alot of democrats
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Oct,23 04:32 other posts 
Are you going to explain that statement any further?
There are indeed internal struggles in the Democratic party too.
But this level of damage done to their own ability to get anything done,
I have not seen in the Democratic party yet. Even AOC supported Pelosi,
someone she disagreed with on many things, because she supported unity.
I rather she didn't and pushed Pelosi out for someone better,
but that's not what Democrats or progressives do, unless it can succeed.

You're selfish MAGA idiots just blow up their own party over nothing.
I love it, but it doesn't help them getting anything done and it drives away
any voters other than extremists like them.
Biden is just having the time of his life, with them doing his work.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Oct,23 11:27 other posts 
Ivana Trump's grave at the Bedminster golf course is now a Weed Covered Mess.
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Golf courses have daily landscaping, they're mowing the course 24/7.
But he cannot show the dead mother of his three kids some respect
by paying his staff to keep up her grave too?
By tecsan [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 01:30 other posts 
Ask biden why it took him so many years to FAKE recognizing his on grand child.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Oct,23 04:21 other posts 
I expected you to bring that up, because it's the only thing you have.

I can answer that; because any woman can just claim to have a child from your son. There are enough crazies in the world who could be lying about that. First, you find out if it's true and under which circumstances it became a reality (if it is true), and then you discuss the consequences. Just because a kid has Hunter's DNA, doesn't have to lead to Joe Biden recognizing them as his grandchild. Not even Hunter has any obligation to accept a child, if the woman didn't involve him in the choice to have that child.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Oct,23 11:45 other posts 
LegalEagle Ranking Trump's Lawyers (some are actually pretty good)
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Oct,23 07:36 other posts 
Sarah Huckabee Sanders accused of altering FOIA requests from journalist
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Oct,23 10:35 other posts 
Trump's sad that GOP candidates are attacking him a tiny bit
and that Biden was allowed to buy some negative adds on Fox.

"The second Republican Primary Debate on FoxNews had the Lowest Viewership
since 2016," Trump wrote. "Their overall Ratings are down 30%. FOX NEEDS MAGA, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IT YET. STOP WITH THE BAD DEBATES & NEGATIVE ADS,
NO MORE. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! DJT."


Only Donald Trump expects the media to be loyal like a dog.
Fox'News' likes him and loves to lie for him, but they love money more.
By tecsan [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 02:33 other posts 
So do you, you little capitalist/socialist.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 11:36 other posts 
Is that your defense of Fox'News'?
You're supposed to say that they are serious, honest journalists.
At least you understand that they are just grifters.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 17:44 other posts 
i use newsmax because it comes accross the computer here free, and they carry Trumps speech's LIVE so you can see them,hear them, and decide for yourself about what he says instead of it going thru the sound board at the tv station and being edited.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Oct,23 06:33 other posts 
'News'max are even worse grifters, so I'm not surprised you like em.
Do you not perceive all the lies they fire at you or do you like it?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Aug,23 03:13 other posts 
The Insane Trumpsurrection Indictment in DC
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LegalEagle explaining what laws Trump has broken.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Aug,23 11:41 other posts 
Have they got any video tapes or similar of Trump sitting down with others to plan a insurrection? No. What is it about a large number of Americans independently deciding they are tire d of being fucked over and deciding to take their anger directly to the 1's in charge of making change happen? Just because it was all in favor of Trump, whom the democrats hate, they want to pin it on him.
My self and millions of other Americans still are not satisfied that the election was fair,honest .
He simply wanted investiogations into the fraud.
OF course some folks said there was none .Fox guarding the hen house mentality.

The democrats would have much more creditability had they investigated and proven once and for all 1 way or the other but they stood in the way using judges and the system to do so. Had they proven to the people there was no fraud, this mess would be over. But they didn't ,they ducked and fought back and created doubt.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Aug,23 11:33 other posts 
"Have they got any video tapes or similar of Trump sitting down with others to plan a insurrection?"
It's damn close to that. READ!!!!

There are many internet and phone records of all of his closest allies conspiring to steal the election for him. There is enough to link Trump to that, but if some of them flip to save their own skin, that's more than is needed.

They had fake electors standing by, with fake election documents.
They are on video talking to Capitol Police in front of the capital, demanding to be allowed in to cast their votes. Their signatures are on the fake documents.
That's the most solid proof of their crimes that any judge ever had.
Those crimes are much worse than voting illegally, for which people have been imprisoned for years. Think they will go down for Trump?

"He simply wanted investiogations into the fraud."
HE GOT THEM. THEY INVESTIGATED EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER
AND FOUND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!! BUT HE KEPT LYING!!!!!

There were more than 60 court-cases where Trump could have proven that election interference. Those were all investigated and turned out to be complete bullshit and intentional lies. But, he gets a chance again to prove that fraud, in court. Have at it!
Did Al Gore get 6o court-cases? NO, the supreme court shut him down, while he had PROOF that he won that election.
Your side stole an election already and has nothing to cry about.
By #610414 02,Oct,23 11:21
Phart, if you commit a crime and there’s no video or audio of the crime, but, there are witnesses that saw you and testify against you, then, you will be prosecuted.
How about the recording of his call to the Georgia elections supervisor? “What I’m looking for is 10 thousand plus votes that haven’t been counted”…..Yeah, Phart, we all know your deniability of the facts.
By tecsan [Ignore] 07,Aug,23 23:43 other posts 
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Now I ask, where are the indictments concerning sleepy uncle joe? Hell just resignation would work in his case.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,23 09:18 other posts 
Then we would have the cackling camel for prez, not much better.
Whoopi Goldberg once said that Republicans can get her vote,
they just have to own up to some things first.
I guess this wasn't it.

Trump delivered Whoopi back to 'the good guys'!
(like I give a fuck )
By phart [Ignore] 10,Sep,23 13:01 other posts 
Whoopie did a good job acting on Star Trek but I do not care for her as a person on the view or anywhere else, just a arrogant old bitch that runs around with WHITE GUYS! So how can she be so racist and still want white dick?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Sep,23 16:56 other posts 
I sort of agree with calling her arrogant, because I've seen a couple of discussions
on the view and I just found her very confidently saying very uninformed things.
I don't understand what makes you say she's racist though.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Sep,23 20:03 other posts 
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I knew about the jew remark but not about this 1 till just now, and I must say using the word "gypped" has never been a racist remark to me, It is a common word.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Sep,23 06:07 other posts 
Sure, denying racism is racist, even if she apologized for it later. But I think it was mostly ignorance, rather than racism. She's hanging around with a lot of ignorant right-wingers. For someone who doesn't inform themself, that starts to rub off,
at some point.

The holocaust was definitely racists, besides being antisemitic.
The Nazis claimed to be the 'master race', not the 'master religion'.

The word 'gypped' comes from the term 'gypsy', which is a Romani person.
It's a derogatory term, based on prejudices towards gypsies, which is an
ethnic group, which makes it discrimination, by definition.

There are many common words that are discriminatory of origin.
There are also words that are completely innocent in certain usage,
but turn discriminatory, if used to address certain ethnic groups,
like for example the word 'slant'.
By phart [Ignore] 11,Sep,23 17:54 other posts 
'gypped means you got screwed
Jewin' em down means you are trying to get a lower price. Comes from the Jewish people trying to get something cheaper.
By #610414 11,Sep,23 21:26
And, once again, you proved Ananas point.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Sep,23 09:43 other posts 
about what? He just explained elsewhere about how words are created, redefined and so forth ,such as "woke". So why the worry over gypped or jewin'? Just redefining things to suit the modern narritve
you use the word hillbilly or redneck sometimes as if it is derogatory, and it wasn't until recently.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Sep,23 14:41 other posts 
I agree that it is 'woke' to not use words with racist origin anymore.
I don't worry much over these words, but I also don't worry over losing them.

There is a difference between those words and 'hillbilly' and 'redneck',
because those are not determined by ethnicity or religion.
They are derogatory for uneducated southerners and not just white people.
Derogatory terms specifically for just white people, like 'cracker', are also
discriminatory, but I do consider that white people have been mostly the perpetrator of discrimination and not the victim.
By #610414 12,Sep,23 15:35
I posted several year ago about my Dad describing himself as a redneck and being proud of it. He was a hard working man and much of his was done outside.
By tecsan [Ignore] 11,Sep,23 04:51 other posts 
Whoopi also likes not wearing underwear and does not like sex in the water. Now that you are thinking of that Ananas2xLekker . I say enjoy!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Sep,23 05:20 other posts 
Thanks, I'm furiously masturbating to the idea.
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Sep,23 01:20 other posts 
Whoopi commando is disgusting. Damn, thinking of it makes me sick. Jack off all you want to whoopi. Fuck, one less sow or gilt around. (I have no idea if it has kids thus the two references). Glad you like the bitch though.
By phart [Ignore] 12,Sep,23 09:42 other posts 
did you happen to see the link I posted to the actual security tapes from the white house that Epoc times got? Shares a whole different perspective than what the media has shown you.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 13,Sep,23 04:15 other posts 
I'm afraid that I missed that one, but if you can link to a source where
I can listen to those tapes, then I would love to.
(If it's not more than an hour)

If it's just a few soundbites of less than 1 minute, don't bother, because you can cut any talk to any soundbite, to mean anything. That's why soundbytes alone aren't evidence. But there is mountains more proving Trump's conspiracy to turn the election.
It's even clear that Trump didn't invent the idea, but he certainly embraced it.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Oct,23 14:06 other posts 
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Sadly it is a pay for view thing.
BUT at least there is another side or at least a better view of what's going on out there for people to see.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 12:54 other posts 
If there is 41,000 hours of U.S. Capitol Police surveillance video available,
it's not that hard to pick and choose half an hour of it, and put a spin on it
any way that suits a narrative, they want to put out there.

It's very clear what happened that day. It was the final chapter of Trump's plan to steal the election. He had worked the weak minds of his followers for months before the election, so they all believed the election was stolen. Loosing 60 court cases didn't change their minds. They were his foot soldiers, who only had one job; disturb the counting of the Electoral College votes and threaten Pence to delay the counting, so Trump could send in his fake electors, who were waiting outside the capital.

It would have worked, if Mike Pence had been willing to screw the constitution for Trump. Unfortunately, unlike Trump, Pence is a Christian extremist who is all to willing to lie for his side, up to a point where he believes it condemns his soul. If he believed Trump's story only in the slightest, he had surely justified this treason against the American people, as an assignment from God. But Pence didn't believe it at all.
There is no better evidence that Trump is a lying traitor.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 13:16 other posts 
At least we agree that with all that footage someone can take some of it and put a spin on it for their narrative.
It is very clear nearly 80 million Americans did not get the President we voted for , we got this instead.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 17:02 other posts 
74,223,975 people voted for Trump and 81,283,501 people voted for Biden.
That's how elections work.

Imagine loosing with 2.8 million votes MORE, which is what happened to Hillary.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 17:05 other posts 
How many gold bars did Trump get from Egypt?
How many Mercedes cars did Trump get from Egypt?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 17:06 other posts 
You tell me and provide the evidence with it.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Oct,23 17:42 other posts 
None as egypt didn't bribe him,but did a democrat.But notice that guy has disappeared from the news already?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Oct,23 05:55 other posts 
Bob Menendez disappeared from the news?
Not the news that I watch. They are happy that a corrupt Democrat
gets booted and hopefully thrown in jail.
They are very amused how only Republicans are still defending him.

Did you change 'Biden' to 'Trump' in your question?
"How many gold bars did Biden get from Egypt?"?
In any case, I answered your question for Biden.
If you have evidence for any Biden 'quid pro quo', let's see it yet.
And no more falsified evidence from Republicans again.

Trump has received his bribes mostly from Saudi Arabia. I don't know about Egypt.
For as much as is clear in his tax returns, Donald Trump made at least $9.6 million from countries in the Middle East during his presidency.
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What was very funny, during Trump's New York civil fraud trial, Trump argued that he didn’t fraudulently inflate the value of his real estate holdings, because he could sell them to Saudi buyers at any price he chooses.
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I'm sure they will pay whatever he asks, if he sells them some secrets on the side.
Some of those classified documents are still missing, by the way.
Where could they be? In the possession of Mohammad bin Salman al-Saoed?

And, of course, Jared Kushner did very well for himself.
Everyone knows about his $2 Billion Saudi investment funds.
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"Kushner spent the end of his time in the White House traveling on several official trips to the Middle East. In the last few months of the Trump administration, Kushner made three trips to Saudi Arabia."
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Getting paid by the government, for making nice deals for his family.
Probably took some classified documents with him, but not back home.


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