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Racism in America is Barack Obama's fault.
Yep.
That's what they are going with.
Now, the deal is that Trump's "wall" stopped the virus from getting to Arizona!
It's like ALICE IN WONDERLAND as written by a drooling idiot...
Racism has been around MUCH longer than Obama.Although I would really like to blame everything on him from the higher cost,and less coverage of my medical insurance to the cost of bacon in the grocery store,Not all things are obamas fault.
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I even used one of you alls shitty sources, you should be happy about that. Oh! Make sure to pay SPECIAL attention to the part that's the writer's opinion. They just absolutely cannot stick to reporting the facts. THAT! Is just one very tiny example of why they are called "fake news". Nobody should/give a fuck about your opinions (news reporters or the writers) just tell the fucking truth and keep your biased opinions to your gotdamned self. So, here is a article with a truth, a half truth, and a fucking out right lie. Enjoy and continue to believe their bullshit.
Four months and a few days. Can't wait
Are you really saying that all media sources should "stick to reporting the facts" and offer no opinions whatsoever?
I'm with you, at least partially, insofar as I believe that the media should only present as fact stuff that is factual and verifiable. If a source said the venue was full that would be reprehensible, as much as if a source said nobody turned up.
If, as a consumer of media, you aren't able to see that describing the turnout as "disappointing" is totally subjective you're probably too stupid to be allowed to leave the house without your carer.
I hope I'm wrong, but I fear you may be saying that any "news" that includes an opinion is "fake news". Frankly, that's ridiculous.
By all means keep your critical faculties sharp. Do your own research - who owns the newspaper or TV channel? Have they been in trouble with the legal system for stuff they have published/said in the past? Do they have a "mission statement", or similar, that sets out what they hope to promote. Try using a fact-checking site. Get your news from more than one source, including (if you really want to seek "truth") a source that you are inclined to normally disagree with.
Sadly, we can't all rely on seeing/hearing stuff with our own eyes and ears. Consequently, we have to rely on third parties reporting stuff. The kernel of the matter is to try to find sources that you feel, at least with some degree of confidence, aren't feeding you a pack of lies.
I'll read, watch and listen to a variety of media sources bearing all that in mind. I'll then form my very own opinions, but not make my judgements so concrete that I won't feel able to change my mind if new evidence is brought to my attention.
I fear that many of Trump's supporters don't use the same modus operandi. They see the source and (surprise, surprise) the next 2 words out of their spittle-flecked mouths is "fake news".
Personally, I find that immensely frustrating. How about you?
The connotation is a tad annoying and maybe over used, but, it's equally as annoying that there is truth to it.
A recent example... This last shooting, Rayshard Brooks, as if the complete situation wasn't bad enough, they start reporting that he (the officer) kicked him (the suspect) after he had fallen to the ground AFTER being shot. That was a complete LIE! They used a still frame shot just to further inflame the situation. That's the kinda bullshit I'm talking about, So, what should we call it, since you don't care for "fake news". That is not a lone incident, it's widespread and in that case very very incendiary and doesn't help ANYONE. Since it can easily be proved time after time that the bulk of media and news sources are completely full of shit and biased, I don't know what you people that don't care for the term want to be said.
Your first example is an interesting one. If you're referring to 9/11 I think it's perfectly valid to tell the public what Bush did at Brooker Elementary School when he first heard of the attack. It's also valid to ask the question: which Saudi Nationals were allowed to fly out of the US when national airspace was reopened on the morning of the 13th September? I may be putting words in your mouth but it seems to me like you're suggesting that you should just report the bare facts, and not take the trouble to look at decision-making behind the scenes to see if lessons can be learned. I hope I'm wrong, because I believe you're smart enough to know that an analysis of WHY something happened is equally as important as what happened.
"they start reporting". Interesting choice of words - who's this ubiquitous "they"? Presumably, as you have been able to find the truth there were other media sources that reported the Rayshard Brooks in a different way?
It would be incredibly naive of me (and you) to state that all reporting is even-handed and factually correct. My problem is twofold:
Firstly, that now seems to have led to the default position of Trump supporters where their first reaction is "fake news" SOLELY based on the source.
Secondly, it also appears to be a totally partisan position. If I was to agree with you that Rayshard Brooks was falsely reported upon would you be prepared to accept that some of the right-wing reporting of events has been equally false? YOU might, because you're a reasonable guy but I fear that most Trump supporters are staggeringly myopic.
He didn't have the largest turnout ever for his inauguration, did he?
In 1982, despite what he told Forbe's, Trump wasn't worth anywhere near the $900 million he claimed was he?
Trump has smeared Joe Scarborough, hasn't he?
He wasn't being sarcastic, or laying a trap for journalists, when he suggested ingesting bleach was he?
The list, as you must surely acknowledge, goes on and on.
If, as you assert, "the bulk of media and news sources are completely full of shit and biased" democracy has a big problem. I'm not sure, however, that I agree with your assertion. "The bulk"? Really?
If you're right (and it applies equally to the left/liberal media and the right) what do you propose? Believe nothing? Only trust your own eyes and ears? My previous post sets out MY position. I'm still unsure what you feel - I fear that, because of your political views, you dismiss anything you don't like to hear and lap up what reinforces your world view - regardless of how risible that might be.
What I want to be said is "Having weighed the available evidence, and checked additional sources, I believe that the report in The Shitkicker Times is incorrect because ......"
What I don't want is "Oh, it's by The Shitkicker Times. They're fake news". End of story.
I think you can see the difference.
A recent example... This last shooting, Rayshard Brooks, as if the complete situation wasn't bad enough, they start reporting that he (the officer) kicked him (the suspect) after he had fallen to the ground AFTER being shot. That was a complete LIE! They used a still frame shot just to further inflame the situation.
Perhaps I look at TV news differently, but that "still frame shot" was visible in the report. This is when I based an opinion. From the position of the officers leg and other indicators, the cop did kick Mr Brooks. You call it bullshit. I call it things that happened after the main facts. Mr Brooks was shot in the back by a cop. The "bullshit" is that people get more upset about a still shot than by the fact a life was taken when it could have been prevented. And the following is YOUR OPINION. It's not the media's opinion, nor the fact-checkers. So, prove it.
Since it can easily be proved time after time that the bulk of media and news sources are completely full of shit and biased, I don't know what you people that don't care for the term want to be said.
I will give you biased with lots of reservations. The shit we hear from the right wing commentators and Fox News proves your point.
HAHAHA.It was the biggest rally anyone ever saw!!
That being said, what's your point?
Let's see, there was talk of possible counter protesters and violence (in which case I would have probably kept my ass home too), there was a concerted effort of bogus requests made to attend the rally and then, not show up in an effort to embarrass the event. It was Father's day weekend, AND lastly we are still dealing with some fears and or concerns stemming from the "pandemic". You want to blast people that participate in such gatherings but fail to mention the fact that attendance MAY have been down due to the Chinese virus concerns and that a portion of the would be attendees were actually staying home in an effort to appease flakes like yourself.
While either of you are attempting to mock the event, don't forget to mention the fact the Joe Biden held an event ALSO, inviting a WHOLE 20 people, and guess what... All 20 didn't even show up. Now, I personally think that's far funnier and embarrassing. But you can rest assured, that won't/wasn't reported by the slanted mainstream media. So, well just pretend that I didn't mention it, ok!?
A Trump campaign official told The Hill that 12,000 people went through metal detectors at the rally.
The city of Tulsa said about 6200.
Either one is far less than the 19000 the venue could hold, and much less than Trumpo's claim millions would attend and have to be outside (there was a total of "0"). The reasons don't matter. It's funny how in one breath you condemn mask wearing because the pandemic is man made and use it as an excuse for poor attendance.
FACE IT, HE'S LOOSING HIS BASE. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF DRINKING BLEACH.
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As an aside, why bring Biden into it? But, here
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The Hill is a very well respected neutral publication. Reporting facts is not mocking. IT"S THE TRUTH
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The number of ChinaVirus cases goes up, because of GREAT TESTING, while the number of deaths (mortality rate), goes way down. The Fake News doesn’t like telling you that!
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Combine this with his statement from February, that, "150 million people have been killed since 2007 when Bernie Sanders voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability," and yes, we are in deep shit in the United States.
That being said, maybe we should just open the borders, let EVERYONE in, cause we must have some serious population issues.
A choice between 2 septuagenarians, who have trouble getting a coherent sentence out, is not much of a choice.
Why you bring in opening the borders is anybody's guess. Does your Socratic daemon approve of you bringing in spurious stuff?
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That's great news!!
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I wonder if his base is distancing themselves from Covid or from Trump...
Lots and lots of empty seats. Maybe, just maybe some people were thinking that it might not be safe to be in an arena full of yelling, cheering people not wearing masks. Imagine that!
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Hilarious!
Someone’s head is going to roll for that one!
SrCums did you laugh at that too?
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What a family!!
I didn't realise there was a shortage of drive space. Feel free to fuck off and stop your inane utterings.
Fake seats? What the fuck are they, weirdo?
Your inability to string together a coherent, correctly punctuated, sentence says a myriad of things about you.
Biggest inauguration crowd ever - a lie.
Kung Flu - racist.
Chinese virus - racist.
Birther claims - racist.
Every advisor he appoints is brilliant, but when they're sacked they're terrible - one must be a lie.
Mexicans are rapists - racist and a lie.
Highest death toll from Covid - inept.
Refuses to wear a mask when that's official advice - inept.
Suggests disinfectant in your body is a great idea - inept.
Claims less testing would mean less Covid cases - inept (and bonkers).
I could go on, and/or provide links to back it up but - fuck you. Remember the 1st amendment?
Harsh, but (sorry) accurate - at least in my opinion, having weighed the EVIDENCE.
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PS. your claims about his achievements are baseless.
PS. fuck right off.
I didn't claim a country of origin for Kung Fu - I said "Kung Flu" was an example of his racism.
"Are you for China or against china?" - what does that have to do with anything? Additionally, it's possible to think all those things about Trump and be pro (or anti) China. Myself, I feel it's a question with nuance. I do, however, appreciate that your ilk like a binary choice - it's simpler and doesn't necessitate you exercise your brain cells. The material gains that Chinese folk have seen over the last 20 years are remarkable, but they are still a despotic state with little personal freedom. So your childlike question is stupid.
I called Trump (and family) racist. Whether or not China is racist for blaming US soldiers is totally irrelevant. Where's your source, by the way, for that assertion (that China blamed GIs)?
Your next few sentences, ironically as they question my comprehension skills, are so poorly written I'm genuinely not sure what you're driving at.
I don't live in the US (which would have taken you seconds to find out for yourself) and neither have I stated I want to live in a socialist regime. You're just throwing out the same old tripe that most Trump supporters, in my experience, resort to.
If you're so confident that Trump has done more for blacks than all those presidents combined (your words, fuckface) let's see 3 sources that confirm that.
If you want a bit of further source material to back up my claims, try these for starters:
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I could happily provide you with a further 20 links to reinforce my points. My bet is that your only, meaningful retort will be (surprise, surprise): "fake news"!
Go fuck yourself.
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"Donald Trump is not done one thing wrong against our constitution he wants to keep all rights for freedom of
speech …"
Unless you're "Fake news" aka CNN, NYT, CNBC, WSJ or anyone else that disagrees with his (and of course your) point of view. He encourages his followers to disrespect the free press.
If he (and you and SrCums) don't have a reasonable retort to a point your first comment is "Fake News". The next time you think that "Fake News" is a reasonable retort, try to think of something intelligent to say instead. I really, really dislike that weak response.
you are arguing with two non-citizens of the United States, foreigners, outsiders. Who really gives a fuck what their opinion is of OUR President. I certainly don't, anymore! Which is why I've made the decision to let their hatred of the man roll off, like water to a duck. I suspect both are completely envious of America, for the mostpart, and are highly dissatisfied with their own nations. Now, they may outwardly scoff at that remark and may even deny it, whatever! One thing is for sure, despite some of the issues we have in America, it's STILL! The GREATEST nation on Earth. If it wasn't, there would be a mass exodus to either of their nations, the U.K. or Canada. But instead, many many people are still fighting and trying to come to this country. If it's such a racist shithole, with unchecked police brutality, as some would have you believe. Why, oh why, are SO many trying to STILL come in?! When's the last time you heard someone say they want to move to the utopian society's of the United Kindom or Canada? Could it be when Cher or Madonna spoke out?
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One other thing to take into consideration...
Both live in society's that basically only allow and have liberal trash media sources. You can EASILY tell by the links in which they so often provide. So to expect anything other than liberal trashy ideas or hatred for our current President from either of them or many other foreigners like them, that have slanted views of America and many Americans, is just a waste of time. Their countries do NOT have the freedom of speech or guarantees of such as the United States does. Therefore, they rarely if ever, get the opportunities to see the opposing views. Censorship is one of the biggest tools in the libs arsenal. Do not fool yourself into believing for one moment that they EVER see any positive news about Donald J. Trump, it wouldn't fit their respective countries leaders narratives. Note how they are trying to stifle freedom of speech here, now! Adding bullshit false disclaimers to some of the President's tweets, forcing two (that I know of) conservative web sites to shut down, and censoring many other conservative voices. Dissention or differing views MUST NOT BE TOLERATED, period!
Read that first sentence back to yourself ... does it make sense to you?
"Just so weird because all of them act like zombies Force as if they're programmed by a central Computer." It's gobbledygook. What ARE you trying to convey?
"Who really gives a fuck what their opinion is of OUR President. " - it would be more convincing that you didn't give a fuck if you didn't then witter on for a further few hundred words.
The UK is in shit order. I have no love for our current ruling class. If you think that prevents me from commenting on the clown in The White House you can fuck right off. The US is a global superpower and who is the POTUS affects the whole world.
"Both live in society's that basically only allow and have liberal trash media sources." Untrue and just another iteration of "it's fake news". PS. it's societies (plural, not possession).
I'll give you ONE plus point: reading your posts doesn't make my eyes bleed. You can, at least, string together a coherent (but false) argument and have a grasp of punctuation. I feel like I need my own personal Rosetta stone when I read stuff from Love2show2 and that other tower of intellect: phart.
Ah, there's the rub. I could provide you with a mountain of evidence and you would disregard it. You're clearly a fuckwit.
"Racism is a judge on somebody's character based on their race." That's one small example of racism. The fact that you don't even fully understand what racism is makes it tricky to convince you that POTUS is a racist. I'm not here to fix stupidity.
I don't have an ounce of "resentment" for Trump. I think he's a terrible person (and President) but I don't resent him. Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary.
China was stealing your GNP? Fuck me - read an Economics primer. That level of ignorance is beyond ridicule.
I'll also take this opportunity to try again. Give me SOME evidence to back up your claim that Trump has done more for blacks than all those other Presidents you name checked.
Or, wallow in your ignorance. I'm aware that I am unlikely to change your mind. It's your Country. Vote for whoever you like. Having said that, I'll still call him a racist, inept, mendacious and anything else that takes my fancy whenever I fucking like. The USA is a great country, but if you are naive enough to think that everything in your Nation is perfect I pity you.
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