![](/avatars/381/381656.jpg) | I'm sure a lot of people here don't want to talk about the US President. I am also sure that there are a lot of people that do want to so let's do it here so they won't have to "listen" to us if they choose not to.
I watch a LOT of news, Canadian and American. I don't get Foxx News but I do get CNN and MSNBC which are very left leaning. The two Canadian news networks, CBC News and CTV News are more middle of the road. I watch the late shows too and I especially like Seth Myers' "A Closer Look".
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There was supposed to be a meeting between the Presidents of the US and Mexico and Canada's Prime Minister on Wednesday. Prime Minister Trudeau bailed stating that he had other important things to do but in reality, he just doesn't want to go! If he went, he would have to spend two weeks in self quarantine when he gets home (because it's the law in Canada) and since there's really nothing to say in person that can't be said on the phone he's staying home. I'm sure there's a real fear of catching it from Trump too.
The Canada / US border, still closed to nonessential traffic because CANADA is keeping it closed. Americans are not welcome in Europe. Mexico is seriously thinking of shutting it's border with the US too because California, Arizona and Texas have amazing numbers of Covid cases.
Way to demonstrate your leadership skills Lying Donnie.
131,197 dead Americans.
Mexico shutting the border to us... 😄😆🤣😂
Good!
Why is it though that a freind of mine that inspects equipment in hospitals and factorys said the other day that most of the hospitals in our area are all but EMPTY?
Laid off workers etc.
Allegheny County could be overrun with the beautiful but disgusting spotted lantern fly within two years if the public doesn’t find and report them this year, according to a Penn State researcher.
Who needs the pyramids of Giza, Big Ben, Rome, the Eiffel Tower, The Taj Mahal.
I heard that Michael's err "Michelle's" cock is even bigger than Hillary and Bill's combined. She/he is black, afterall... 😄😆🤣😂
These are facts too
Remember folks! People like her, the dems, the libs, ALL prefer TRUTH over FACTS.
"He's also the most dishonest President we've ever had"
As if Bill Clinton or the great Barack Obama's tongues came notorized.
"He made Wall Street richer and the regular people poorer"
You suppose she/they told themselves that evertime they cashed them checks with SUBSTANTIAL tax cuts, or how about them stimulus checks. Think they said that when they ran their ass to cash them in?
"He committed treason"
Is that why the treasonous bastard was found, NOT GUILTY!
"He paid off a porn star not to bring up his infidelity during the election (a no no)"
Really! Who gives a flying fuck what the man did in his personal life that had absolutely NOTHING to do with our country, long before he decided to run for office. WHO CARES! I don't think many even gave a fuck about Bill's sexual escapades, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WHILE SERVING OFFICE, but the bastard lied about it. THAT, was the problem. Still, he was in office when that took place. Donald's took place in his personal life, which frankly, is none of you or anyone else's gotdamned business. 🖕
"He ignored the pandemic until it was too late"
Ummmm excuse me! But he (Donald), was told by THE EXPERTS to NOT SUSPEND flights from China and surrounding areas TO the United States.
He did it ANYWAY!
Then! What did you fucking lunatics have to say about it?
"OH MY GOD! He (Donald J. Trump), is a racist, xenophobic bigot!"
RIGHT! He certainly ignored the pandemic...
I'm not even going to bother, to disprove the rest of your HIGHLY dishonest (THAT MEANS YOUR A FUCKING LIAR), statements. Albeit, rest assured, I could easily do so. But I've already done enough here to show how nutty some of you people TRULY are.
BTW "these are facts too"
NO! They are YOUR truths, and no need to feel alone. There are others that may come strolling along here that completely believe in those same truths.
Truth Trumps Facts never forget that! 🖕
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Just for you morons that keep accusing ME of muddying the water.
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Really! Who gives a flying fuck what the man did in his personal life that had absolutely NOTHING to do with our country, long before he decided to run for office. WHO CARES! I don't think many even gave a fuck about Bill's sexual escapades, IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WHILE SERVING OFFICE, but the bastard lied about i
At the time the Republicans hounded him like a rabid dog. But, it's not the lying that everyone remembers. It's the affair they remember.
If the Stormy Daniels affair was nothing why did he pay her off?
Daniels had been paid $130,000 for signing a nondisclosure agreement just before the 2016 United States presidential election about an affair she had with Trump
THE PROBLEM IS THAT HE DID IT JUST A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION. It's not the affair. It's the fact he tried to subvert the election.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defending early missteps in the U.S. response to the coronavirus, President Donald Trump has repeatedly boasted of travel restrictions on China that he suggests he decided on his own over the objections of health experts and saved “thousands” of lives.
In late March. Wow. Fast
He stopped it on Feb. 2nd
You failed to address the fact that he was labeled a racist and xenophobic for doing so, too!
SEE! Intellectually DISHONEST!
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BTW
Here's a new term (not really), for you to get use to and realize that it's quite alive and well. "The Silent Majority".
When you continually bang your head against the door frame, in an effort to figure out why Donald J. Trump won the election, despite all the polls, including Fox's, saying that Hillary would win in a landslide.
I want you to think about that "Silent Majority" connotation.
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Also, if you don't think it's real (the silent majority), tell me how many AMERICANS speak up in these forums supporting YOUR beliefs. 😄😆🤣😂😆
What number would you say?!
I'll take a stab at it, I think there are about 3 to 5 at best!
Now, continue dreaming of that Democratic win in November with that empty shell you all call Joe Biden. Who is unable to discern his asshole from his elbow.
"intestinal fortitude to get involved in the politics"
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😄😆🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂
Oh that's fuckin funny right there!
YOU'RE RIGHT!
What sort of things are we jamming up our ass today!?
You are SO right, that's faaar more important of a topic.
Or even the sweet smells of those hard-on invoking public urinals...
Your really blonde today you’re the one that commented about trump being crooked I’m just trying to show you there is one that was way worse
Ummmmm...
Give me a second... 😣
Ummmmm, well, if you CHOOSE to ignore the most egregious "white" half of President Obama. I suppose you could glean that he broke the racial barrier, as the first "Black President" in U.S. history? Does that count? 🤔
If not, I got nuttin...
I disagree WHOLEHEARTEDLY!
Herman Cain - Dr. Ben Carson
Would and could have been our first "Black President"
Obama IS half white, how the fuck does that qualify him as being the "first black President"? I mean that sincerely!
Who decided that it's OK to ignore half of his lineage in favor of the other. Makes NO sense to me and I find it intellectually insulting.
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I have two Cousins that are mixed, guess what their collective take on the matter is...
Taking into consideration that BOTH of their father's booked upon learning of their conceptions. They agreed that to assume they were just ONE race would be an insult to their Mother and where she came from. Think they identify as "black" or should identify that way? Try again!
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BTW
If you like your doctor ,, you keep your doctor, what do you call that?
I call it getting a good fuck paid by my Obama-Care,
Get your Donald Trump Bandanna today...
What an excellent idea donny!! You’re so SMRT. Maybe the SMRTest president IN HISTORY!!!! End Canadian Sarcasm.
The border between Canada and the US is still closed to nonessential traffic because Canada doesn't want Americans to come here and spoil all of the hard work we've done to get Covid under control in Canada. We've worked hard to succeed. Any day now the EU will ban Americans from flying there because they will respread Covid there.
COVID-19 is getting WORSE in the US and your president doesn't give a fucking shit about it and you as Americans allow him to let your countrymen die by the thousands.
Every country except Brazil is getting better and fewer people are dying yet America has politicized the mask that can save your family's lives. Covid is not Democrat or Republican, it's not Canadian or American, it's not black or white, gay or straight and it doesn't speak English or Spanish . It kills everyone and when the simple mask is worn fewer people die. That's a fact.
Another fact is that the 25-40 age group is the fastest growing group of cases because they think that it's all over! Fortunately, they have a higher survival rate because they're younger.
And, making people wear a mask is a violation of their Constitutional rights! It says in the US Constitution (right above the part about owning a bazooka)that Americans have the right to not give a shit about causing other people to get sick or die. Giving a highly contagious disease to another person is the most American thing you can do.
You don't honestly believe the virus is just going to fade away because we stay apart do you? It will wait,as you said,it is not black or white and etc,it also does not have to conform to logic.As with any thing alive,it will adapt to animals,or whatever it takes to survive.
I suppose it would upset him a little if I asked him whether he had the tiniest scrap of evidence for that assertion?
In addition, he seems to have overlooked that the measures that most countries have taken are an attempt to avoid seeing their Health Services overwhelmed by a massive amount of infections in a short period of time. They call it "flattening the curve" in the UK.
Here's the scientific reasoning:
"It is likely that eventually it will become endemic, and most of us will get infected. But one question is super important: How long will it take for that to happen? If it happens in a few months, every hospital will be overwhelmed and people will not be treated for coronavirus or other diseases. If it happens that fast, it will be an unprecedented disaster. However, if we do our best in terms of prevention by practicing social distancing, reducing travel, not going to work when we’re sick, we could slow spread of the disease. If the same 60-70% infection of the global population is spread over 3 years, then hospitals don’t get overwhelmed, people can get treated, and we have time to develop a vaccine—it’s a completely different story. The difference between it happening fast or slow is potentially the difference between a 1918 flu level event and a bad flu season level event. We have control over that.
Justin Lessler is an associate professor of Epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health."
Even Professor Lessler only goes so far as to say it's "likely" that a majority will become infected.
But, no ..... I'm pretty sure that most of us would like to disregard Professor Lessler and, for a much better global outcome, get our Covid 19 advice from an overweight cock-flasher who's recovering from a traumatic brain injury.
Sorry dude, but you deserve that for just running your mouth off about a subject that you are, clearly, NOT an expert on. The personal insult is just for effect.
Vaccines are along way off,thanks in part to regulations,not lack of brains.
Hux, you are not a expert either.you just Copy and paste "facts" to support your postions/
Kembo At least has some intelligence and real world experiance although we often disagree.
I am not a wordsmith and have other things to worry about besides getting a I before a E
In the US the case count is skyrocketing and the hospitals are filling up again so please understand that there is something that the EU and Canada are doing right and the US is not doing it right. Please don't argue that point because I know you know I'm right and don't insult me by saying that more testing means more cases. That latter point is true to a point but the hospitals in the US are filling up again and that could only mean one thing; the US is getting worse while the rest of the world (mostly) is getting a lot better.
The EU will probably ban flights from the US soon and the Canada/US border is STILL closed to nonessential traffic because CANADA wants it closed. We don't want Americans in our country because we've worked very hard to take care of this nightmare but the US has really fucked it up and everyone in the world knows it.
You're also slipping into your normal habit of asserting stuff, without any evidence. "Vaccines are along way off,thanks in part to regulations,not lack of brains." Really? Is that your "real world experience" speaking, or is it you talking out of your ass (again)?
Why you decide to put facts in inverted commas is beyond me - I provided you with a direct quote from an epidemiologist. I know I'm not an expert - that's why I defer to people who ARE experts.
You don't need to tell people you're not a wordsmith. The evidence of your limitations is there for us all to see.
Finally (bad news for you, again), I would steer away from "I before E except after C" as it's not really a rule that holds true. Weird, huh? Albeit, forfeit, glacier, seize, hacienda ..... ALL break the rule.
You paint me as though I'm pro-abortion clinics staying open and anti-paint shops staying open. Guess what? You have ZERO evidence for putting those words in my mouth.
Keep calling it the "Chinese virus" as much as you like, but I'll continue to point out the inherent racism in such a sobriquet.
In this thread I have not mentioned Trump once - get that, NOT ONCE. Precisely because I don't want it to be about one person - it's about policy, science and preserving life. Your sensitivity to (even oblique) criticism of Trump is staggering. I got involved because I get exasperated by people like phart, who make pronouncements about stuff they haven't got a fucking clue about.
Your rant says more about you than it does me.
PS. Trump is still a terrible person and President.
Your the one who chose ONE example over roughly 20 better examples to include in your response above. One with 12,000+ or so attending OR one that had maybe in the neighborhood of 100,000+ give or take several thousands? I think the inference was valid, but whatever! Ok, so you are agaisnt all of those, good!
Admittedly, some of what I stated above wasn't exclusively for or towards YOU. Therefore, I'm not painting you one way or another on any given topic. You do a fine enough job of portraying yourself as the way you want. The things that I stated were for ALL that may read my/our post, and of course, whatever you felt like that was directed at you.
"Sobriquet" really! On a porn site? The virus is now a person? Calling it the "Chinese Virus" could perhaps be just as racist as declaring you're ordering "Italian or >gasps< Mexican food".
It truly makes me happy to hear that you are openly stating that the virus is not about any one person. Applause and Kudos to you!
Ok, so I was "ranting" above and that speaks more of me than you. Sure, sure! Are you suggesting that "rants" have NO real meaning, truths, facts, included in them? That by the mere labeling them "rants" they should be dismissed with no validity?
Lastly... As aforementioned somewhere, I don't give a flying fuck about you or anyone else's opinion of our President. You're entitled to that opinion, as is many many others. I also do not think he's perfect by any stretch of the imagination. That being said, as debatable as this can be, he was the best option, at the time, FOR ME, and therefore I stand by him for the mostpart and wish for his success for our country.
GUESS WHAT! We are in that exact same position AGAIN! The Democrat party has been hijacked by radicals pushing radical agendas, resembling NOTHING of the past Democrat party. Given the only two current options available, I will take the one that can still form a complete sentence. Period!
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Biden has been in the game for approximately 50 years?! What has HE personally gotten accomplished, OTHER THAN, the crime bill that supposedly, unfairly, incarcerated many many black Americans disproportionately? Be specific, please!
(btw Hux, this portion can either be for you or not)
Numerous things he's said over the years and to date have been highly controversial, he's accomplished nothing of real meaning, he AND his Son were involved in corrupt dealings with Ukraine and his mental faculties are on a steep decline. By no means am I making light of it, but the man is suffering from Dementia or Alzheimer's CLEAR as mud! He most assuredly does NOT have the mental capacity to fulfill the responsibilities of the office in which he's running for. Anyone who says that's untrue is only lying to theirselves. Whomever votes for nutty Uncle Joe Biden are not going to get him for their President. Whomever his Vice President pick is, is going to be the real President. No thank you on the bait and switch candidate.
I've personally witnessed, with my own eyes, a few of the disingenuous media channels (you prefer that over "fake news") editing out old Joe's "gaffes". They certainly don't want you seeing the sheer number of them. It doesn't help the narrative for the Democrats, liberals, or media. So, don't blame me if your scratching your ass with no clue as to what I'm referring to when talking about those "gaffes". You can find them yourself OR continue to pretend there's not a problem.
You can bleat as much as you like, and make false equivalences about "Italian food", but using racist language to refer to Covid 19 is a real thing and not just MY opinion:
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Having a go at my vocabulary is a new one - but you seemed to be able to work out what sobriquet means (with or without the use of a dictionary)!
Rants/getting angry is fine by me. "Anger is an energy" after all, but it's also perfectly valid for your interlocutor to scrape off the surface and examine what really lies beneath that anger.
I'm glad we can agree that having an opinion, and using your vote based on that opinion, is one thing we share - as we both live in (flawed) democracies.
I'd also, being realistic, accept that choosing between Trump and Clinton was a "lesser of two evils" conundrum. Sadly, I think you're likely to be presented with a choice (this time around) between 2 deeply-flawed candidates. If your political system throws up choices like you had in 2016, and now in 2020, I really feel that your political system needs a complete overhaul. Are those REALLY the 2 best people your great Nation can present to the electorate?
"GUESS WHAT! We are in that exact same position AGAIN! The Democrat party has been hijacked by radicals pushing radical agendas, resembling NOTHING of the past Democrat party." - an opinion piece, right?
Thanks for the parts of your message that, I think, acknowledge my willingness to be intellectually honest and not exclusively partisan. Trump is a terrible President but, believe it or not, I have many many criticisms of the Obama administration as well. My Socratic inner daemon would not allow me to "win" an argument if I knew I was being less than honest or using smartarse artifices.
Have a good Sunday.
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