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And by the way, wouldn't Homeland Security be better utilized if they were protecting the citizens against COVID-19? You know, America's real enemy that killed a thousand of your citizens today.
-Judy Woodruff, PBS News
My response,not directly to you in a angry way but just my broad response to these mask up folks is, If you fear death,stay home and stop expecting everyone else to take responseabilty for YOUR safety.
President Donald Trump’s bad poll numbers are getting worse.
The latest data point: A new ABC News/Washington Post poll released Sunday shows Trump 15 points behind former Vice President Joe Biden among registered voters, 55 percent to 40 percent.
-Canadian Reporter on COVID-19
Dip shit blondes who parrot their blue collar boyfriends are a riot for their "Trump at all costs" beliefs. We all know, if Trump is out they go back to being the guys that fool around with their sisters, mothers, and cousins. No one will listen to them anymore. They go back to being the shit kickers of this country. Good to work in shit but not good enough to work side by side with the college boys.
ME THINKS THE CLOWN IS SCARED.
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Americans are dropping dead like flies and now you're supposed to be happy that he wore one in public? He doesn't care about Americans, he only cares about himself.
If he had been pictured with it sooner, it would have been the WRONG color!
No need to mention he's the most protected man on earth from just about ANY threat, and accordingly doesn't really need one in most instances.
A hospital... Hell yes he needed one!
Get the truths straight, would ya!
I just noticed this little bit of idiocy.
It could be argued that, because he is "the most protected man on earth (and a sociopath), Trump doesn't care enough about the people around him to do his part to protect them. Or to set an example for the people he is supposed to lead.
In any case, too little; too late.
Here's why your "reasoning" is as wrong as it usually is:
At the end of WWII, the Germans closed all of their Death Camps. But no one ever gives them credit for that. They can NEVER do any right, EVER!
That describes Trump pretty well. Nice insight!
The followers of Orange, Stupid Jeebus are willing to sacrifice their kids on the altar of Trump.
Until the virus,the kids and grandkids had a great future of jobs and prosperity awaiting them.The future for the kids and grandkids now will be lawlessness,no respect for authority and no work ethic.Useful idiots for the democrat party.
And if we don't need the kids going back to brick and mortar schools,perhaps the land and buildings need to be sold,teach the kids online and put all that money somewhere else,like police and fire and etc.Instead of defunding police,we could defund the school system.1 teacher could teach 10,000 kids online instead of 20 in a class room.Big savings. They could teach from home,and it would greatly reduce workers comp insurance cost and so on.Sure,let's don't send the kids back to a PUBLIC school,let the parents buy computers and pay for the internet and the brats can stay home.
How can the parents go back to work if they are stuck at home careing for the kids?
How long do you want the country to sit and wait? Until after the election,then fuck em all the dems will have it all?
All it amounts to is the liberal agenda is USEING This crisis to achieve the goal of dividing the country to make it easier to conqure.They don't give a rats ass about the kids,never have,make useful idiots of them and use them as tools.
That, kind of cold, phart, even for a Trumper.
How much cash is one kid's life worth in the MAGA universe?
I am a teacher. I work in a medium sized, suburban school district. There is no way we are going to be able to keep the students, teachers and staff safe from infection (and taking the virus home to spread) if we open the schools too soon. I imagine it has been several decades since you've been in a classroom, so it is probably difficult for you to imagine the impossibility of keeping a modern school building/classroom safe from such an infectious virus.
I h@te having to teach online, and would prefer to be in a classroom with my students (the most effective way to teach), but opening the schools too soon will only result in tragedy.
By the way, only having 20 students in a classroom is a luxury that most schools do not enjoy.
I know the wiggling screaming kids are hard to control,due to lack of raiseing at home.You as a teacher in most cases are being asked to make chicken salad from chicken manure so to speak.The kids coming in are not raised to want to learn and do better,and you are battling that everyday.
First of all, you MUST recognize that old adage that says...
One set of rules for thee but not for me!
or
Do as I say, not as I do.
See, the part conveniently NOT being mentioned by our fellow S.Y.D. friend. Is that, HE, will continue to get paid regardless of the decision. Thanks to the teacher's union. So yes, let's continue to keep the schools closed so that I can continue to draw my paycheck for absolutely nothing.
Take away HIS paycheck and I bet you by golly he'll sing a different tune on many things in a short time no less. Think that doesn't make up a HUGE part of these decisions? The very LOUDEST voices pertaining to all these supposed missteps, dumb decisions, etc. etc. Ironically all still collect paychecks and or are rich enough to endure ANY financial stresses. The Media Personalities screaming at us, yep, they're STILL getting paid, Celebrities, yep, still getting paid, politicians, yep, still getting paid, teachers, yep, still getting paid.
The poor to middleclass can just go fuck theirselves!
Just like all them celebrities getting on the television night after night encouraging EVERYONE else to stay put. Well shit, if we all had millions of dollars at our disposal, like they do, then sure let's do it.
He (Will and many other people), apparently have NO clue to what the "EXPERT'S" are actually saying about children and the consequences of those children contracting the illness and their ability to spread it and fight it off. The ONLY scientist's opinions/views you can accept are the ones politically aligned with the Democrats or libs. Present evidence from a scientist in opposition, ESPECIALLY if he's been maligned to conservatives or Republicans and it's LIES and nonsense.
If he were honest, which most of the time he's not. He would conclude that on ANY given matter whatsoever, that even science and scientists are unable to come to an agreement. EVEN something SO trivial as face masks. Half say yes half say no.
The point is, who the fuck are we supposed to listen to when they can't even agree on something so seemingly simple...
Everybody wants to scream they or their side is right when I'm more inclined to believe neither have a fucking clue, really! One thing is for sure, they will NEVER admit that!
They have to clock in and be avaliable online for questions and lessons somehow for so many hours a day.
Now perhaps Justwill can help me understand something,he probably thinks I hate him but we just disagree,anyhow,
A kid down the road here helped me the other day with loading something into my truck and he was glad to get out of the house for a minute.He went on to explain,that when school closed, the grades were "frozen".In other words,had he not cared about his grades,and was happy with what it was back in march,he could have sat in the corner and twiddled his thumbs.The grades could only go UP if they were below a A.
What good was it to require the kids to continue to go to "school" if the grades were frozen?
He was 1 of the few well behaved kids I have encountered lately. Most at the public places I have been lately have been disrespectful little dipshits while the parents just mull along with whatever they are doing.
As for your question:
Every school district handled the end of this past year in a different way. (Like so much of what has gone on during this pandemic, there was no PLAN put in place by our leaders to get people on the same page.)
My school district went for remote teaching (I am NOT a fan, but I had to do my job as required) and all classes were Pass/Fail (though we were instructed that no student could be given a Fail)--meaning that "grades" were not given for the final 9 weeks of the school year. A student's final average was based on what they had achieved prior to the shutdown.
And, you are right. The students who put in little to no effort for the first three quarters of the year did almost nothing. The students who worked hard prior to the shutdown continued to show the same degree of effort and interest in their schooling as they had all year long. Honestly, I was impressed with how well so many of them did.
From my perspective, the "grades" are actually the least important thing about my job. What really matters is that a student does the work, tries to improve, and shows an understanding of the material. All people do that in different ways, and they should be given credit for the effort.
I was just responding to YOUR imbecilic post.
This one ➡️ "So, let the kids die so you can make a buck?"
OMG that was such an astute statement Will! Prefer that?
Go ahead, attack me, it's your only defense to the things I stated above. Truth hurts, doesn't it buddy!
Besides, it makes you feel better to demean others. Helps, maintain that MASSIVE ego. Please, continue delighting us all, with that keen wit and genius simply known as JustWill.
I am glad that my "keen wit and genius" delights you. I don't see it as much of a compliment, though. I am pretty sure that shiny objects and flashing lights can hold your attention for hours.
And, your response was stupid. I am pretty sure I said so up there.
I worked through the lockdown, you ninny. I earned my paycheck teaching from home. If the schools don't open for the Fall, I will still be teaching from home. The safe way to do it during a pandemic.
How curious that you and your ilk, who bash Teachers and the work they do so often, are now demanding that we put ourselves--and our families--at risk so that you can pretend that 135, 000 people haven't died and that more are going to do so. Because money is more important than lives.
Now, I get that you don't give a damn about my life or the lives of teachers, but it is beyond idiotic that you are willing to risk the lives of your kids/grandkids just to hurry up and get the economy running again. Your Idiotic, Orange Jeebus has you well programmed.
I'll just allow YOUR genius to speak for itself, such as this golden nugget ➡️ "Trump supporters don't love their children and grandchildren the way normal people do."
BTW what's a "normal people"?
The absolute best part of that statement, is the fact that it's YOUR personal opinion. I was just kinda taken aback by such a vile, ignorant ass statement, ESPECIALLY, coming from such a self-proclaimed highly intelligent being.
Carry on with your brilliance, ATTACK!
I figured that was self-explanatory.
You're willing to risk the lives of children so that you can grab some cash.
Talk about "vile and ignorant".
Here's a little fact for you: The only opinion ANYONE can have is their "own personal opinion". Mine, as always, is based upon observation, logic and reason.
And, so that we are clear, it is YOU who keeps proclaiming me a "highly intelligent being".
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were jealous...
On the contrary, I've complimented you numerous times about your clever wit AND perceived intelligence. Hell, I even did a lil sort of tribute to you in Bella's music thread. The off-putting comes when you run around on these forums decrying said intelligence with utmost arrogance. In a manner seemingly, that everyone else is beneath you. THAT portion, I find nauseating. And I'm NOT going to search the forums to find those things to throw in your face, either. Nevertheless, they exist.
You've recently repeatedly insulted me, and going so far as to include my children in them (you sure didn't like it when it happened to you, though).
I'm just your current punching bag, nothing more nothing less. You must feel threatened in some sort of manner. Despite your outward arrogance and apparent hatred for anyone who may disagree with you. I'm man enough to continue to give you praise or a kind word when I feel it's deemed. I'm fairly certain the same CAN'T be said for you. As you've taken EVERY bit of my opinion(s), views, etc. and boiled them down to... "you're stupid, nonsensical, homophobic, idiotic, pudding-like, etc. etc.
In the meantime, continue on with that "I'm mightier than thou" mentality. Or that self righteous, sanctimonious attitude. It's really working for you.
I'm looking forward to your further insults. Discounting ANY and ALL my points of views or anyone else's for that matter, that are in opposition of yours. There's only ONE opinion/viewpoint that matters, right Will?
I don't h@te people who disagree with me. They are a lot of fun to play with. (I DO hate hypocrites, though.)
If you DID compliment me (I did not see it), I thank you. You are way too kind. "Perceived intelligence" is not actually a complimentary phrase, however.
While we are on the subject, you used the word "decrying" incorrectly. I think you think it means something that it does not.
You DID (unjustly)accuse me, a gay man, a teacher, of "indoctrinating" my students. There is a pretty hefty innuendo in that statement, scorps. It is the kind of homophobic comment--one with perverted connotations--that guys like me have had to suffer forever. You should be ashamed.
As I have said before, YOU are the one who interprets my posts as "arrogant". I am just as smart as I am. I can't be any other way. I will not apologize for it, or try to "dumb things down" so that you--or anyone else--can feel more secure about themselves. If you want to run with the big dogs, you have to go through the tall grass.
If you want to see a REAL example of arrogance, though, re-read your Happy Birthday America post. That little tirade is the height of arrogance, and a prime example of the "ugly American" As a fellow American, I found it kind of embarrassing. Check out much of the stuff you post these days, scorps. It all has the same "I am right by virtue of you being a liberal" tone. So, perhaps you shouldn't be calling the kettle "arrogant"
Don't point your "only one opinion that matters" finger at me unless you are ready to admit your own hypocrisy.
Also, you are dead wrong. I praise people in this very Forum all the time. When it is deserved.
See--I made it all the way to the end and didn't call you a meathead a single time!
Thanks for catching my error, I am human and prone to making a mistake from time to time. Similar to the post where you caught an error you yourself made. Funny btw!
In NO way was I associating being gay with indoctrination for anyone else who may read this. I made sure to clear that up personally with Will in a private message.
It's rather unfortunate that you feel that way about my Happy Birthday America post. You are certainly entitled to feel anyway you wish. I stand by what I said and will make no apologies for it. "ugly American" huh! I suppose if having pride for my Country and a bulk of it's citizens, and a vast majority of the advances we've made as a country,
and what we stand for, makes me an "ugly American", I guess so be it!
As a general rule, I do not go around bashing other countries or their leaders. Although I could! I find it highly distasteful and unacceptable to do so. Maybe, just maybe they feel pride for their country and or leader and most of what it stands for. In which case, who the fuck am I to come along with negativity towards their nation. But it's perfectly acceptable to criticize ours, I don't think so...
I am sorry that I sympathized with your "5 thus far children". I promise never to have sympathy for them again. I was unaware that people of your ilk find sympathy to be condescending.
I also don't recall where I questioned their value as citizens. Perhaps you would be kind enough to point that out to me. Or to explain how you took a turn into "destroying other people's property" territory. Your mind does wander in and out of reality, doesn't it? Cool that you, like your moronic, orange, Jeebus can rewrite reality to fit your own agenda.
I have not yet addressed your PM about your homophobic innuendo regarding "indoctrination", but I will do so shortly. I thought we were going to keep that private, but since you brought it up in public, let me just say here--for readers to plainly see-- that you are WRONG in your defense. You didn't "clear it up", you made a lame excuse in an attempt to justify it. I will just write that off to ignorance. (See, now we have both had our PUBLIC say on the matter!)
Thank you for giving me permission to feel as I feel. That was very nice, and not at all condescending. (You do know what that word means, don't you? I mean. you used it on me way up there, then actually did it to me shortly thereafter. Odd.)
There is a difference between having pride in your Country, and being an elitist, arrogant asshole about it. But, you are a member of the cult of the Idiotic, Orange Jeebus, so I understand that you don't know any better.
"You worked through the lockdown" earning your paycheck, that's good, I applaud you.
The problem... Having kids, I witnessed for myself, with my own eyes, no need for anyone else's interpretations, how the "teaching" was actually being carried out. That being said, it was a DISASTER to put it mildly. My children didn't gain a damn thing! Their grades were basically frozen and as long as they logged in daily (for at least an hour), done a couple things, they would receive a passing grade. That's NOT teaching!
Now, my kids are theoretically old enough to be left alone. That portion doesn't affect me whatsoever. BUT! Not all children can be left at home by themselves to participate in online schooling. So, YOUR answer is, tough shit that the parents need to work to keep the roof over their heads or put food on the table. Stay home with your kids you money greedy filthy fucks! How dare you need to earn a living during the same time your children would typically be in school. I'm sure you have all kinds of brilliant solutions to retort with. A solution that covers EVERY child that may be in that set of circumstances. Seriously looking forward to them.
Let's continue... You expect every single child that needs to attend school to have a computer and internet access? Cause those things are as common and cheap as water, right? God forbid one family have 2, 3, 4, or more children needing to attend school simultaneously. Buy more computers you breeding bastards!
Just a side note... You expect and or demand that all children have a computer and internet access in order to be taught. All of which is not cheap, but get a $12 I.D. in order to vote. THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS!
Do you believe you have exclusivity being a "Teacher"?
Afraid to tell you, you don't! I know just as much about your profession as you do from the inside. My wife was a "Teacher" also, for most of our marriage. That being said, I'm not "teacher" bashing and if that's how you feel, I, personally am coming across. It's not my intention.
I'm one of those critical of sports team members or Hollywood figures getting paid what they do, while our real heroes police, firefighters, military and teachers get paid shit in comparison.
Now, rather than a glossy simple statement like...
"If the schools don't open for the Fall, I will still be teaching from home. The safe way to do it during a pandemic."
Give us YOUR solution to ALL the different variables that include ALL children, not just the ones that can afford to do what you wish. And just maybe a solution that's not JUST about JustWill. Are you capable of that?
I don't have the answer you ask for. The virus took us all by surprise, and we were not prepared for it. (It did not help at all that our "leader" dropped the ball so horribly, either.)
Our schools are way underfunded. They were before the virus, and they are now. Until this moment in time, the average American didn't really give a shit, however. "Pay more taxes to fund our schools? I'll pass."
So, we are in a situation where every student doesn't have the tools he/she needs (In this case, a laptop. In way too many cases pre-covid, books, writing supplies, notebooks) to get the best education. If we had handled that problem BEFORE the world got sick we would be in much better shape than we are now.
What I do know is that crowding a bunch of people together in a closed environment AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME is only going to result in more people dying needlessly. We are not prepared. There is no workable plan. Until there is a vaccine, no one is safe.
Give me a reasonable solution to this problem that doesn't put lives at risk. And I am not just talking about MY life, I am talking about the lives of my fellow teachers, the school support staff, all of our students and our families.
The only solution I can offer is that we need to not rush into this school year without a National plan. Rushing into reopening the Country only made things worse. We need to take our time and do this intelligently. We have too much to lose otherwise.
Honestly, though, you folks aren't really talking about a need for EDUCATION. You're talking about wanting a full-time babysitter. That's not my job.
The situation is quite the pickle isn't it! I don't have a clue, either, how to go about this in a fulfilling way.
We have a little thing we do with the kids each and every day. At dinner time, while at the table, we ask the kids what they've learned new today. We do that for a couple reasons. To make CERTAIN they are progressing and to get a feel of what they are being taught (of course, when school is in session). When not, we try to make sure they've learned SOMETHING those days too. I.e. I have a word of the day game I play with them that I started when I was a teen.
Anyway, when the schools shut down, and went to online (that alone took like 2 weeks), they could no longer answer the question of what did you learn today. We dealt with it ourselves and I'm not trying to necessarily be over critical, as everyone was caught by surprise. If that same method is to be employed again, it's not going to work and I'm opposed.
How about this option... Give US the money that would typically go to the school on behalf of each of our children and we will teach them from home with a paid tutor or on a more viable time schedule between ourselves.
How about installing air filtration systems in the classrooms and requiring all students to wear face coverings except during lunch, which can be served in a tented area outdoors?
7 to 8 hour typical school day reduced to 1 single hour simply is not going to be sufficient.
I somewhat agree on the rushing to reopen, but the clock is ticking away. We are forced by law that our children have to attend school. If it was deemed so important to make it law, then it should be equally as important that they actually be taught.
If we were to postpone opening, as you seem to be suggesting, for how long? Then, how do you get the students back on track educationally to progress normally through the rest of their student careers?
If a Teacher has 5 classes a day, and each class contains 20 students, that's 100 potential infectious contacts in a school day. (Keep in mind that those 100 students and that Teacher all have families that they risk infecting with the virus when they go home at night.)
If that Teacher, or one of those 100 students, gets the virus. then all of them (and everyone they have contact with) will have to be tested-- and possibly quarantined--
for 14 days. Given that it can take five or more days to get the results of a virus test, it is possible for any number of people to get sick before anyone even knows that it has begun.
Imagine this happening EVERY TIME one of the individuals involved gets sick! It would be a total nightmare. (And all those parents would have to take off work to babysit their quarantined kids.)
Most school districts don't have the money required to put the needed safety protocols in place, and it would be impossible to ensure that all of the students follow necessary safety procedures at all times.
Everyone wants to get back to work, but putting all those lives at risk is not the way to do it. We have to get the virus under control before school buildings can open safely. Trust me, I dislike remote teaching as much as anybody does, but, at least for now, it is the safest way to resume education in this country while the virus is still raging.
(I would also like to point out that asking me and my partner--and our families--to risk our lives so that you can earn a buck is a little rude.)
No one person will be uneffected,or will be able to resume life without some level of risk. The vaccine,that is a dream,and I hope it comes true,but vaccines can be WRONG. or only about 40% effective.Or the virus could mutate.
To wear a mask in public places?
To stay home whenever possible?
To not gather in large groups?
Those aren't sacrifices, they are actions to help save lives.
No one is going thru this crisis unscathed.
I don't feel like teachers,doctors and others should act or feel like they are "above" responding to the call of duty in their said trades. If the garbage man responded like this to the extra trash 2 days after Christmas we would think he was a idiot.
If National Guardsman responded like this to a flood disaster,we would think they were bumbling fools.
When a helicopter crashed at 3am 20 years ago,while I was still working,I received a call to go do my job. Was I happy about it,hell no,but I did my job.
When the call is heard,you respond.You have heard the call to step up and teach,so use precautions,and step up to the plate sir.
The "call" of my "trade" is to TEACH, not to needlessly risk my life, or the lives of my family members, so that other folks can have a handy babysitter. That's not the job we teachers signed up for, unlike the National Guardsmen, who were well aware that their job might involve risk of life.
I am not saying that I refuse to "step up and teach". I will continue to do my job--to the best of my ability--from a safe place.
The garbage men you mention are picking up trash. No one is ordeering them to run into a burning building.
I am sorry that you feel you are above being asking to go above the call of your dutys and pay grade.
K1ds are hauled into the school,put into classrooms,and STAY there all day. Food is brought in, instead of rotateing classrooms,teachers are rotated.
Smart really,no being late for class, cause there you ARE!
I think most of the stuff is on computers now so the kids don't have books to get out of lockers. Just hope the battery stays up all day.Books should be cheaper you would think than buying everyone computers.
But the school system thinks this will improve safety so maby kids can get their schooling and be safe to.
Those sentiments coming from someone who has NEITHER children OR grandchildren.
A person most likely, actively involved in the indoctrination of, "other people's children" with HIS personal opinions, beliefs, interpretations.
I might suggest that gays simply hate America, encourage, and actively work towards it's destruction.
I get that you are the leader of the DUMB BRAINS MATTER movement, scorps, but the nonsense you just posted is even too stupid for that dimwitted crowd.
It is both horrific and amusing that a guy who is constantly babbling about ALL LIFE BEING SACRED doesn't seem to give two shits about those same lives AFTER they leave the womb.
I feel sorry for your children and grandchildren, knowing that they are being "indoctrinated" by a h@te-monger such as yourself.
OR are you one of ignorant idiots that consistently maintain that you can be "completely straight" despite arousal from another male appendage or ass?
Is that the best you got Mr. Supreme Intelligence? That english degree making you feel more superior to others? Or, is it the gayness that crowns you as more morally, and intellectually superior to the next person? I'm just curious as to why your goto attack is always ones intelligence? I mean, does that makes you feel better about yourself? It's like a drug, huh? 🤔
That whole h.a.t.e. monger thing is rather juvenile and played out, certainly below a person of your intellectual stature. Just saying...
You can gobble every dingus that comes within five feet of you and STILL be a homophobe. The two things are not mutually exclusive (as your several homophobic rants illustrate). I maintain that you are homophobic because you say homophobic things. It's pretty simple. Even a guy with your limited intellect should be able to understand.
I would like to point out that it was YOU who attacked ME on the intelligence issue first. (I am speaking about your "as intelligent as you think you are" comment a few weeks back). I did not fire the first shot, you dimwitted little snowflake, in the IQ war. You did. And now you're crying all over the Forum because I frequently point out that you have a malfunctioning brain? How sad for you.
My "goto" attack isn't always at a person's intelligence. I just reserve it for meatheads like you. Just sayin'...
We just disagree on alot of stuff.Our life experiances are what we build our opionions on for 1 thing.and that is different for all of us.
If I did, I apologize. That would have been very unkind of me.
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