| First of all, I love guns. I own several and love to go shooting. For me, gun control is a nice tight pattern on the target. Or, my right index finger. I have always respected guns and never in a million years thought of turning one on an unarmed civilian population. I think that is the very definition of cowardice.
I am however interested in hearing everyone's opinion on the matter. Specifically, as it pertains to these mass shootings that keep happening. I don't see gun control or background checks stopping these from happening. It may help to some degree but that is not the end all solve.
In my opinion, and this is not meant to make light of the situation at all, is we have a country full of pussies. To make that sound more professional, I think this country is full of entitled people who think they deserve everything and don't want to work for anything. It is full of politically correct bullshit and kids who don't get graded in school and everyone gets a trophy. Well, that is not how the real world works. We all know this to be true, good bad or indifferent. It just isn't real.
These kids attend college etc and live in this bubble. When they enter the real world the smallest of offenses or setbacks sends them off on a rampage. We have failed to set boundaries and realistic expectations.
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What methods of self defense would be suitable, or should I say ,politically correct, to the liberals?
Honest question that really needs to be answered in close detail. As self defense is why there have been MANY guns sold in recent troubled times to all races of people here in the US.The answer to that question will be hard to get.Because frankly alot of liberals do not think you have a right to self defense.
but there is hope
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I am not trying to be a smart ass, I am trying to dig into this and understand. Peace is not a natural occurrence.
Violence is not a natural occurrence.
Both require effort on someone's part.
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Read this, now tell me again why it is ok for people that have mental issues to be running loose among us?
Funny aint it,ask a real question,try to solve a REAl problem,and no takers.
Just like the ventilators found at the city dump in Florida the other day. several million dollars worth still wrapped and boxed ,dumped and distroyed because of no certain government approval.HAD the owners REALLY gave a shit about the plandemic and the victums,they woulda shipped them to a country that could use them without the red tape. But as with all liberal issues,it is not about finding and solving the REAL problem,it is about control and money.
that is a real shame theyre dumping new machines, it shows you just how crazy the place really is when that is the case.. bureaucracy is a wonderful thing when it can discriminate like that.
I dont know what the answer is for guns, as all the rules in the world want ever stop someone that wants one, getting one and using it how ever they want.. you can make tighter gun laws, but only honest people will follow them anyway, and while ever there are people with narrow minds that hate on others and cause these horrific shootings, it will only ever start a debate and nothing new will come out of it.. even here with less guns on the streets, people do still shoot each other, its just on a lesser scale, but here we have so many different cultures all vying for their 'own way' to live, now jump in cars and mow people down on streets, causing more injury and mayhem than a gun can.. like you said, it doesnt matter if you take all the guns. they will find new ways to run people over, blow them up with suicide vests, cars full of nail bombs.. or flying a plane into a building.. it think that did the biggest damage...
the real problem is hate, and some people just have more hate in them than others ... nothing you can do will take it out of them, and most of them enhance it with some drugs or brain washing to help it along, and some are just born into it.. have no choice in the life they lead... so many variants and there is no answer or debate that will ever come out with millions of people all agreeing on ONE solution? because there is no solution... everyones opinion is different and everyones opinion can change if they become a victim of gun crime, or other kind of a terrorism that this world is now in a 'pandemic' of.. so many cultures being shoved together and governments just expecting them to get on... like Ive said many times before, and not just since BLM came up, america cant even sort out their love/hate relationship with black and white, same as any other country that had slaves, or took over a country with a different 'species' of human on it.. we've always hated difference and trying to grind it into people isnt working, so now theyre trying to inter breed us into submission... like breeding 'mongrel' humans to save the world... governments have been watering down their nations for years .. now theyre poking the dragon... I was hoping that in my lifetime Id never see a world war, but its getting close again, something will snap one day... like the king wont get laid he'll have a huge head ache and take it out on the world... and POOF, life as we know it can change for no reason of our own and we'll have no say in starting or stopping it, we'll just be collateral damage in any governments eyes and that to me really SUCKS *LIX*
FIX that and gun control is not needed
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Guns...
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Guns for killers
Moreover, let me say it again: why are there people here who are, clearly, not interested in sex or sexuality? I don't mean that we shouldn't have other topics to talk about ever, but it seems that the major focus of the departed member, as well as some other ones, is the discussion of all matters except sex. Which I find weird. Not because other matters are not important but because this is a fucking sex site!
The person you mention is all about free speech.
If someone is blacklisted and cannot post on a particular members comments etc,don't post on someone else's behalf unless you are sure what you are getting involved in....
And also remember what JohnS says about you....his nickname for you is really not flattering....
Tells you quite a bit about a persons actions if you cannot respect someone enough to call them by their username....
Yes it is a sex site...but not all of us are nymphomaniacs and after a while sifting through members to find real people is what it's all about for me....
I am a straight guy,not a confused guy who sometimes sucks cock or lets a guy suck me.....so in my time here there are only so many things you can talk about....
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Moreover, let me say it again: why are there people here who are, clearly, not interested in sex or sexuality? I don't mean that we shouldn't have other topics to talk about ever, but it seems that the major focus of the departed member, as well as some other ones, is the discussion of all matters except sex. Which I find weird. Not because other matters are not important but because this is a fucking sex site!"
Point that last paragraph out to John and you will see a reaction that is too funny for words....
So take a big breath leo and be lucky....
A leopard cannot change it's spots....
That is what I am referring to
So I repeat "Yes it is about having fun Leo....but do you think John gets into the spirit of fun considering what you just posted ? "
You admit posting something for John ...he was banned by a member for whatever reason....then you were banned by the same member because you posted for John...then you made a duplicate thread,so you had something in mind by that action....
You say that member was badmouthing you,but John does it too...
and John was looking for a way to get rid of you back in the day when you first joined....
So is that a little clearer,or have I muddied the waters even further ?
I will write to JohnS and invite him to make a comment here.
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Done. I wrote to him in private the following:
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Nov 21, 08:01 leopoldij: John, In this thread, /forum/thread.php?id=24712&p=1#t381679 , I posted this on 20,Nov,15 07:38, as a reply to you:
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The problem is, as you see, that this person was not a supporter of free speech. You, at some point, asked me to post something on your behalf. Not knowing anything about the background, I did post, just as you had done for me once or twice. The reaction of this member was (1) banning me, (2) badmouthing me, (3) trying to have me banned from the site, among other things. Extremely erratic and almost violent behavior.
Moreover, let me say it again: why are there people here who are, clearly, not interested in sex or sexuality? I don't mean that we shouldn't have other topics to talk about ever, but it seems that the major focus of the departed member, as well as some other ones, is the discussion of all matters except sex. Which I find weird. Not because other matters are not important but because this is a fucking sex site!
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I then received several responses, mostly from alexblue. Please read them. He claims that you don't like my response. I replied that what I wrote was my opinion about the site. He continued reminding me that you were trying to get rid of me in the past and that you were badmouthing me. Actually, I had forgotten that. I believe that you have no intention of doing that any more, so please reply. I have nothing against anyone, and if someone who didn't like me changes their mind, great, we're friends again. THis goes for everyone, not just you.
So, I'll leave it upon you to reply. And I'm going to post this on the thread too.
Cheers.
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I leave it upon him to reply.
And you are correct,if people can change their minds and be more friendly it can only be a good thing
all I was trying to point out is that don't post on another persons behalf unless you know what you are getting into...
But I guess John forgot to explain he has a vendetta against anyone who makes a different choice to what he would ,to you....
Talking about people here who are talking about subjects that "clearly, not interested in sex or sexuality"
Why is anyone talking about guns on a site dedicated to penises, sex, and sexually-related topics??
Sorry, leopoldij, but go find a FUNDAMENTALIST blog, or site, and post your rhetoric there!! This isn't the place for your bias!!
I respect my friends who do not own a gun that I had taught to shoot, but chastise for saying I know where to get a gun if I need one and the SHTF. I find it funny that they believe I will be in my City home waiting for them to show up to get their loner gun and ammo. Sorry Caitlin you don't get one.
As for the rest of the chatter sorry I can't follow that shit. I love you all dearly and would love to fuck you all in the ass men and women the rest of the dribble is just that. lol
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As to a foot note. how do some, clearly not all, but how do the kids get guns??? Some are acquired by arcane rules others by lack of understanding and resistance of simple rules. Yeah as a **** I had my 22 in my closet. Ammo on the shelf. Never once did I think of taking it and using it outside the set rules. I worked at a chicken farm and shot rats for ten cents a rat. Yeah I got paid sometimes in eggs, or a chicken. OK a different world. I'd ride my bike to work and a cop would stop me to chat. Officer Murphy, Hey buddy, on your way to work? Yes sir. got to stop those rats. Shoot straight, boy. He drove off, no fuss. Stopping a 12 year old with a rifle slung over his shoulder. Give me those time again.
I tell those stories and make adults cry. Younger adults than me. I have helped many, but I can't help all.
Also the idea that a "Good Guy With a Gun" is of any help in a rampage situation is ridiculous, given the current statistics. It's more likely that if there is an armed bystander they will either injure themselves, injure other bystanders, or kill other bystanders.
My personal opinion is that you are right! I agree with you! "Gun free zones" clearly mark out territories where people are unarmed, and presents an opportunity for people looking to kill, a place to maximize their carnage.
Chris Mintz is a model for courage! But it was his military training allowed for him to act in that situation. A trait no-one else in the vicinity of the shooter shared.
But for Ben Carson to go on television and say "Here's what I would have did in that situation." Is pathetic and cowardly. The man has had no military training and has no experience with that kind of horrible scenario.
Continuing on, there is a kind of training taught in only one school in New Mexico called "Swarm and Yank." But this is a reactionary measure that creates a false sense of security and teaches the **** of the school a mentality of, the bad guys are coming to get me! Instead proactive measures should be focused on. Measures that would change American society in a way that it would no longer spawn people looking to harm others.
As for teachers in America there was an internal survey done by the American Federation of Teachers. They said unanimously that they did not want teaching to be a profession where they are armed.
As for making inferences about the a killers motives. It would not be reasonable to assume that someone looking to murder as many people as possible. With no expectation of surviving themselves, would care if anybody else in the place was armed. Unless you yourself intimately understand or sympathize with the mindset of a mass murderer don't make speculations about how they think.
As for how these people acquire their firearms, they do not skirt the law. In fact they operate well within it. Because the United States has practically non-existent gun control, and no way of monitoring the sale of fire arms. These people stockpile weapons without ever tripping an alarm.
We agree that people who commit murder in order to have themselves focused on in the media do harbor mental illness. There is a great deal of stigma around mental illness in America. This tends to manifest itself as how people refer to to people with mental illness. For example, saying a person is "FCKING CRAZY!!" is not the way to refer to someone that needs help. Republicans tend to deflect the issue of gun control towards the issue of mental health, but then don't follow through. They don't try to pass legislation that would allow for mental healthcare in America to be more effective. I'd direct you to this video for more information on the state of mental healthcare in America: only registered users can see external links
It's normal to be horrified and confounded by tragic things like this. To quote Thomas Fuller, "It is said that the darkest hour of the Night comes just before the Dawn." It is necessary for humanity must stand in the face of adversity if we wish to make this world a better place for everyone.
And since you haven't already heard, mass shootings ARE an everyday occurrence in America! It's October 8, that's 280 days into 2015. The FBI has recorded 297 mass shootings in 2015 so far.
It also doesn't matter where shootings happen as long as there happening inside the United States. What America needs is restriction on the sales and ownership of firearms. And better access to better quality mental healthcare.
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he hide's his gun
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