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The second tipping point noted in the research would occur once 2,500 gigatons of carbon emissions have been released into the atmosphere, at which point the whole Greenland Ice Sheet will melt and sea level rise would rise by 6.9 meters, or 22.6 feet.
WHEN THE GREENLAND ICE MELTS THEN THE SEA WILL RISE BY 23 FEET EVERYWHERE ON THIS PLANET!
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Here is a page from a group I am sure you will put all your stock in regarding china's new coal plants.
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How this is relevant to the situation is this.A little thing called the Jet stream.
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Now, please explain to me how driving a electric car or farting in a jar is going to counter act all that?
Nothing to do with racism, nothing to do with politics, physics.
They burn shit ,it floats over here. Half the issues california has with smog is from CHINA not their own.
But the Citizens of the state suffer for it anyway financially.
You stated in the past that you want that state to seperate from the US.
If a independent truck driver takes a hauling job here in my state and takes it to california, if his engine in his truck is over a certain age, he can not enter the state. Thus his load has to be shifted over to another truck, increasing cost of shipping. just 1 example, there are many more.
That state is full of fruits and nuts and needs to be on it's own.
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Red areas will be under water
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Risk maps provided by the USA government here:
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How many environmentalist do you see wearing clothes? They were made somewhere out of something, and that created pollution. They got where they are somehow, that created pollution.
A environmentalist should be naked and starving and living in a tree ,and not shitting or farting. because anything that clothes them or feeds them besides a few twigs and berrys is polluting.
Today a few things have changed, they look like their heads have been shoved in a tackle box with all the metal shit they have in their faces, that shit don't grow on trees, it is manufactured.
All the hair dye they use is also made out of non environmentally friendly chemicals.
Their mostly all on welfare so workers like you & I have to be involved with expanding more industry to support the bludgers.
They breed like rabbits.
I bet they are all on their iPhones communicating with the world about their plight creating more pollution.
Then like in the City I live closed of roads with demonstrations, causing workers that support these cunts to sit in traffic, motors running causing more un-necessary pollution.
They are also part of the problem these fuckwits 🤷♀️
Both less damaging to the environment than polyester.
We don't have to cook, we could adapt and eat everything raw or sun dried.
Doesn't sound like you are giving up anything to save the planet. I doubt anyone here dumps shit and burnt oil on the ground or in the river.
If you really want to make a difference, you have to make serious changes that will severely crimp your life style.
How much do you see people willing to 'give up things' for their beliefs, around you?
Are Christians not 'giving up things', for their beliefs?
E.g. just financially; many pay 10% of their income to the church.
Then look at the claim of climate change; the world is getting hotter and areas are becoming inhospitable to life. It is already affecting most of the people on earth now and it will only get worse in the near and especially more distant future. It will, at the very least, affect young people living today, in a very harmful way.
IF YOU ACCEPTED THAT (I repeat IF), would you NOT be willing to 'give up things'
to prevent it?
Without discussing the truth right now, can you at least accept that thinking?
Then about the next idea, if you think this is a 'belief':
Climate change is caused by carbon dioxide emissions, and it's possible to reduce those emissions by changing to alternative forms of energy generation, instead of using the dwindling fossil fuel resources. It requires investments, but the alternative technology provides cheap abundant power.
IF you accepted that as true, why would you be against it?
Show that you are able to do a little thought experiment like this.
If you want, you can propose a similar thought experiment to me; a true 'believer'.
No one forces you to give 10% to the church. But if you want a car, you are forced pay for a catalytic convertor and related shit that the car does not need to run.
That is forcing beliefs ,or theory's or just plain bullshit on the people.
If a cars emissions system fails inspection ,it cost alot of money to fix it .We are FORCED to make repairs or replace or do what ever to be able to travel. Unlike the 10% we can give the church if we want to .
What if you were forced to pay fees for hwy repairs and you only used the side walk?
The question was if people are WILLING to give up things for their beliefs.
Can you understand that people are willing to give up things,
WHEN they are convinced that the alternative is as proposed?
Your example is not comparable. Are you not living in this world?
perhaps The very fact we have fossil fuels in the first place is because of climate changing to a point dino's couldn't live anymore.
DUH.
I can believe this, because it is happening now.
Volcanic eruptions that caused large-scale climate change may also have been involved, together with more gradual changes to Earth's climate that happened over millions of years.
Smoke and shit came all the way over here from Mt Saint Helens.
Even if there was no pollution created, the Earth is going to warm & there is nothing anyone can do about that
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Because of climate change, forests are now regularly bone-dry.
How many people do you need to constantly 'rake' a million square miles?
Approximately half of Canada is covered by forest. They have 36% more forest area than the USA, but only 11.5% of your population. You're not succeeding in preventing wildfires.
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Maybe you're doing better this year, but next year you might have all the wildfires again.
If you don't succeed, don't blame people with 12x more forest per capita, for failing too.
Did Trump raise any wildfire prevention funds? No, he even tried to gut those funds
for California, and you lot seem to like it when their forests burn.
Are Californian forest burning to embers more cleanly?
Even if they are stupid Democrats, their efforts still require money.
But you're only interested in supporting your 'team', instead of solving problems.
So what's your story now? Oh, I know; Blame Canada!
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If a fire of that size were here, myself and my nieghbors would be actually doing something ourselves if it was nothing but walking around with a shovel to snuff out hot spots.
And companies here do try to prevent the type fires that happen in california. The right of ways around power lines are cleared to a point a tractor or off road truck can access the entire line. Limbs and trees overhanging ,are CUT down.
Not pretty, but looks better than charred earth and lost homes.
Just understand the enormous challenge of protecting such huge areas.
They have increased the budgets for this, but it's just not enough.
They should clear very wide lanes between areas of forests, but when it's really dry it just starts burning everywhere at the same time. It only takes one piece of glass or a shiny can bottom or a lightning strike or someone throwing a cigarette out of the car window or a campfire or whatever of a hundred possible causes.
Look at the data, it's hundreds of wildfires everywhere. You would need to identify every fire in minutes and have firefighting aircraft ready for take-off at many locations, to get there immediately or it will already be too big.
Not that expensive. Cheaper than the negative affects high lumber prices will have on the economy.
Lumber is already a lot more expensive than before, but at least you understand how all these things are connected.
Only minutes ago, I explained to tecsan that to stop providing Ukraine with the weapons to push back the Russians, will not just result in 'maybe a little scuffle', but the complete annexation of Ukraine, a country which is called 'The granary of Europe'. That would result in Russia controlling the largest grain producing area in the world (see below). They can (and surely will) use that as leverage against the rest of the world: "Suck up to us, or you'll starve!".
Russia is blocking what's left of Ukraine's grain export. That causes food shortages and high prices, which are especially damaging to developing countries. Half the countries in the world have joined together to demand from Putin to stop blocking the grain exports from Ukraine.
You see high food prices and just say: "Biden's fault". That's usually where your thinking stops, mainly because your media doesn't talk about ANY OF THIS, either. But, if you are able to understand fires affecting lumber prices, you might be able to progress beyond the mind-numbingly low information and logic level of the right-wing media. That fills me with hope.
"Ukraine has the world's 25% black soil and highly developed agricultural production that accounts for more than 10% of its gross domestic production (GDP) in 2021. Both Ukraine and Russia are large grain exporters, accounting for 40% of the world's grain exports."
Then we see if you are consistent on this narrative.
Stop being so fucking dependant on others and take care of your own needs.
Your country is sitting pretty right now,plenty of food ,plenty of income,just to many people,stop reproducing!
The plague that spreads the Earth, Humans, are simply speeding up the current natural process of global warming, basically from destroying nature & melting the the ozone layer from pollution created from industry processes.
It really is as simple as that, the more we breed, the more industry there is & further destruction of of the Earth in our hunger for recourses to supply industry.
The Amazon for one of many examples is continuously eaten away for farming land to produce plant based oils that are used mostly in cosmetics to fuel the west in their hunger for beauty.
Poor 3rd world nation, that live in this area get paid lots of money for this resource, so why not cut down a few more trees for more farming land to get more money from the west.
The Amazon is the lungs of the Earth, but once it is all gone, we wont have any air to breath, but at least we will look perdy gasping for our last breath of air.
but at least you understand some of the problems.
We are all guilty of it, even you & I chatting here right now, with the tec we are using that has caused damage to create, let alone all the other destructive things to the ozone that just this simple conversation contributes to 🤷♀️
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& there are million or billions of people causing destruction just simply chatting over the internet right now & that really isn't even the tip of the "Iceberg"
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What we are doing as a species, anyone that cannot & or recognise the destruction we are causing really only have their head in the sand 🤷♀️
But sure they hang onto global warming is a natural process, I agree 100%, but as a species we are speeding that up a shit tone 🤷♀️
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Why should I care about what could happen 100 years from now or more I won’t be here to see it
I'm not sure if your a breeder or not, looking in from a window into your profile I could only guess not (not saying anything negative, only a observation).
I feel for my kids & more so my grandkids, I don't have any yet but I'm sure they will be along in coming years, its my grandkids that I will know before I'm gone & I am sure they will be facing many struggles. But that generation will have to change, if they don't, who knows what will happen from there 🤷♀️
it will turn out to be true very quickly.
I'm not that worried about 100 years from now.
It's already getting pretty bad NOW.
You might not be living in the worst place, and I don't either,
but it will get to us both, with a vengeance, soon enough.
You keep worrying about food prices, remember? It's not Biden.
A big part of that is Ukraine, but it's also climate change already.
but it's heating up faster now than in the last 100,000 years (ice core records),
and it happened in decades, while normally in thousands of years.
A factor of 100 faster, IS NOT NATURAL.
Our parents & to a lesser extent theirs were the start of it, damn Henry Ford developing the production line, its all his fault lol
Our generation can't change a fucking thing, in the past or present, I agree with dgraff, our generation though is still trying to fix it with this renewable energy shit that creates more pollution to create the stuff than burning focal fuels ever did, but gives every one a warm fuzzy feeling in the tummy with the label of renewable energy, lets save the Earth together.
There are to many humans, we breed to much that's the issue its math 101 & no one seems to mention that, oh but that would mean less voters/tax payers, less money & round & around it goes 🤷♀️
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I bet Henry Ford is rolling over in his grave over the plastic junk they call cars of today
No one has regrets over not working enough, on their deathbed.
That's not the same as living each day as it’s your last,
but as always, there is that sensible middle ground.
We call them "chrome bumpers" the old cars over here & old farts like us love them, I guess as something that reminds us of our past, they had their faults though & many of them ,but seeing a as new one getting around today near gives me a hard on, even those shit-box Holdens (Chev), obviously I'm a Ford guy but love the old Valliant's as well (Mopar).
Getting back to Henry though he was a innovator, he used more or less iron back in the early days because that was the only material available to him back then.
I think if if old Henry was to stand up out of his grave, go to a modern production line of modern car manufacturing he would be proud that his innovative idea of production line had advanced so far, also with advancement of modern cars today.
Although while driving the poor old cunt around in my modern motor car, if he spotted a chrome bumper, I'm sure it would give him a hard on, even if it was a Holden (Chev) or Mopar
I don't know why people have allowed themselves to be forced to drive roller skates.
People wonder why trucks are popular now.SIZE,wheel base, = comfort and safety.
And yes,over populations is part of the worlds problems.
I remember as a little kid the ad's on tv wanting people to send money to feed the little children in africa.Sad sights to see,kids with flys all over them.Well pumping money into it didn't fix the problem.THe people still aint figured out to STOP FUCKING or at least use a rubber or a pill. Ukraines grain is being blocked, and so now there will be even MORE starvation.
their wage still sucks and they have massive student loan debts.
That's not some force of nature, that's the choices our generation made.
Who actually benefited from that industrial explosion? Workers?
Look at the auto industry; starting worker wage is less than in 2007,
and that's not inflation corrected. They would need to make $10/hour more,
just to have kept up with inflation. That's not just in the car industry.
Henry Ford gave his workers a great wage for the time, so they could buy a car.
People are getting screwed, they just lie to people, about who's doing it.
You're right, there is not much that we can do individually, but every bit helps.
You can even save a buck, by investing in solar panels and insulation, if you have the money, and I believe you have.
This is a global effort. The first priority is forcing the 100 companies that emit 70% of the CO2, to reduce their emissions as much as possible. Simultaneously, all countries should transition their electricity generation to renewable energy ASAP. The next priority is electrifying the heat generation of houses and insulating houses way better. Only then do we get to transportation. Hard to electrify large transport should run on bio-fuels. Electrifying cars helps, but it helps more if their electricity renewable. That's probably enough, if we succeed in keeping the forests alive and plant some more trees.
There might be some smart geo-engineering solutions that can help.
The best way to contribute, is to vote for politicians who at least recognize the problem, instead of denying it. Mostly, stop voting for corrupt assholes, who take money from the fossil fuel industry. They are going to kill you, before you die at a respectable age. The local elections and primaries are more important than the presidential elections. The lesser evil is not going to help anyone.
You specifically, can make your garage more electric car friendly.
Most of their owners are loaded, so take advantage of their wallets.
It doesn't help much now, but the demand that first electric cars create,
helps the rest of the people afford electric cars and make them more useful.
That works the same for the whole country. Oil and natural gas
are getting expensive as fuck, if you didn't notice.
That's because it gets harder to get it out of the ground,
when all the easy sources have dried up.
doing whatever you want, and YOU don't believe that either.
Freedom, up to the point that you are affecting other people
directly in a negative way.
Your right to keep emitting carbon dioxide as much as you want,
is affecting the rights of other people, to a future.
We are the second largest agricultural exporter in the world,
directly after the US, but our country is 235 times smaller.
All that cow and pig shit is destroying what's left of our nature.
That 'starving' narrative is just bullshit propaganda, for idiots. We have enough.
About 75% of our products are exported, while also 66% of the profits leaves our borders. So fuck those foreign investors, who are destroying our nature.
If the rest of the world wants us to export food, stop exploiting our country.
Also, half of our country is used up by agriculture land, while we have no more places to live. Housing is almost unaffordable, because of scarcity. That's why I want some of those shit producing farms bought out and use their land to build houses for people.
Makes no sense why you want to go backwards.
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