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in the world heat up faster, while other places (nearer to the poles) are getting cooler.
I'm at the end of the Gulf Stream in Europe. If that Gulf Stream goes away, it will be significantly cooler in Europe than in South and North America, but we would still have
the same levels of CO2 and CH4, so I'm sure it wouldn't get to an Ice Age.
this is a can of worms someone needs to fish with
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More fiber glass fibers for our fish to ingest. "How was your flounder with fiberglass breading sir?"
There is no free ride.
and increasing damage to all of our lives, a major extinction event, and possibly
the end of humanity, UNLESS we stop doing it.
There is no free ride to stop doing it, but every not-free-ride is better
than a ride of increasingly worse torture, with a bullet in your head, at the end.
That fiberglass problem is avoidable, and even if it wasn't, it doesn't even measure up to JUST the oil-spills everywhere alone.
If we are talking just about pollution, those tar-sands in Canada are leaving a godforsaken wasteland, worse than Mad Max predicted.
How many Americans cannot drink the tap water, because of fracking.
Many Texans have stinging eyes and lungs, because of fracking.
Fracking could likely poison the one and only water-source agriculture relies on.
Even if they would just grind up all the wind turbines into dust and blow it into the air, your dumb example wouldn't come close making fossil fuels "the lesser of the necessary evils".
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I will bring you some "fresh spring water" to drink during our tour,
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It is a fact that pollution from oil and gas can be cleaned up at a cost far cheaper than our seafood being filled with fiberglass.
lead acid batterys if handled properly can be recycled easy,rebuilt even.
I continued with "that is guaranteed to cause incredible and increasing damage.....".
That word "guaranteed" is why fossil fuels are worse than all the alternative energy sources.
Nuclear energy is very dangerous and creates the waste problem, but it is NOT GUARANTEED to destroy humanity. It's possible that we won't have another Chernobyl or Fukushima, and that we will care for the nuclear waste for 200,000 years without incident. Possible, not likely. That's why I Think nuclear energy is a bad alternative for fossil fuels. Actually, it is a fossil fuel too. When it's gone, it's gone.
We could only power the world for a few decades with it.
And then you have to invest again in the real solution.
That's not a fact, you made it up. An oil-spill is unintended, just like that fiberglass ending up in the ocean, but the fracking process and tar-sand mining that's constant pollution for every barrel of oil. When you pollute the aquifer, that's over with for the next thousands of years. In Canada they are damaging areas the size of a small country. That's damaged for a few hundred years.
The fact that it's not easy to recycle fiberglass, doesn't mean you have to dump it in the ocean. You can just burn the carbon components and be left with glass or sand. That can be done cleanly, it just emits some carbondioxide, which we don't want, but it's way less than fossil fuels.
How willing are you to go back to candle light and cooking on a wood stove?
There is no hazard free energy source.
Solar leaves panels that have to be processed and recycled, and their brackets pollute the ground water.
Wind mills make noise pollution, kill birds, and are expensive to dispose of in special land fills.
hydro, damns are failing nowadays endangering peoples lives.
burning coal makes air borne pollution .and the coal ash unless it is used as concrete aggregate has to be disposed of now in special landfills,
nuke is highly dangerous as long humans are designing and operating it.I would trust AI with nuclear before I would humans and I don't trust AI no further than i can throw the Echo dot in a zero gravity area.
Neither of us is dumb or means ill will to world but we just disagree so much.
what energy source is clean? Geothermal? the pipes would have be made of something safe or they would polute.
big V8 trucks, but the alternatives for those aren't only horses.
Would it be cheaper for you to exchange a car for a horse?
It's bullshit to think we should go back in history for technology.
We cannot feed even a fraction of the people on that old technology.
It's the exact opposite, we have to go forward fast in technology.
Minimize the resources and energy needed to produce all our needs.
And people could definitely consume a bit less and still be happy.
The economy is centered around making the most money from
selling people crap and feeding people crap. And it's not the people
making that crap, who make the most money. It's just exploitation.
There is wind, water, solar and geothermal. Those are all better than fossil fuels. Of course there are disadvantages of all energy technologies, but the examples you are bringing up are minor compared to the disadvantages of fossil fuels. That's all just oil-baron financed propaganda. You're not even managing to come up with some new ones.
Oil pits kill 3 times more birds than wind turbines.
The large majority of poisoned land is caused by fossil fuels.
Coal is a fossil fuel too. It emits the most carbon emissions per watt.
Do you even think about what you're typing? Pipes for geothermal have be made of something safe or they would pollute? How about the Keystone XL pipeline?
Never heard from you that those pipelines cannot pollute. Oil pipelines are constantly leaking and polluting huge land areas.
And that's just the pipelines. Oil and gas extraction is poisoning the whole world.
Do you see what your brain is doing? Don't you see your different standards?
The sea is dying from climate change. The Mediterranean sea surface temperature hit a record 83.7°F / 28.7°C, the highest in four decades. Coral reefs are dying out. The oceans are the largest habitat on Earth, it supports all life. The whole chain of life is threatened by climate change. When it falls apart, it goes fast and it's irreversible. Your side of politics is doing everything to kill nature as fast as possible. There are only few right-wing conservatives willing to do anything to prevent it and they all cry about money. My side of politics wants to prevent nature from dying. Everyone will need to sacrifice something, but your ideas are fantasy, unless we wait even longer, because dying off doesn't come without sacrifices either.
WHY?
the 1 thing you mentioned that affects me,
Why work if you can't buy the truck you want or need to suit your purpose?
1 of the things mentioned in our bill of rights is the pursuit of happiness.
to tell me I can't travel and take a camper along , that is not allowing me to pursue happiness. that is restricting my lifestyle.
that is not what America is about.
There is alot we can do to help,without restricting peoples lives. We have worked hard as a society to get where we are, we should not give up 1 damn thing. and should be fighting any action that would.
WHY?"
Because your and my pursuit of happiness today, has an impact
on the pursuit of happiness of everyone else and everyone after us.
Just like your life and my life today, has an impact on the lives of everyone else and everyone after us.
Just like your liberty and my liberty today, has an impact on the liberty of everyone else and everyone after us.
Your "unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
The government's job is to secure these rights, not for JUST YOU, but for everyone, including future generations. That's what your founders designed
your system of government for; "one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice
FOR ALL." NOT JUST FOR YOU!
"We have worked hard as a society to get where we are..."
Indeed as a SOCIETY, by working together, by sacrificing for each other.
The need to work as a SOCIETY is not done and dusted when you say so.
But, the strongest shoulders should carry the most. That's why I hate Trump's ideas so much; he takes weight off from the people with the strongest shoulders and adds it to the weight that the weakest shoulders are already carrying.
The man in the moon is leaving us behind as he drifts off into space.
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In the time that the sun is still alive, 5 billion years, the moon will drift away another 50%
from it's current distance to earth.
384,400 km = 384,400,000 m = 38,440,000,000 cm
238,855 miles = 15,133,852,800 inches (stupid imperial system)
This is just another stupid attempt to conflate the fact, that climate change is creating increasing danger and increasing damage to humanity, with misleading fearmongering about other topics that scientists are researching.
It's the job of scientists to research the effects of the moon on earth, or climate change deniers would claim it to be the cause of climate change, which scientists have demonstrated to be real and man-made, with a certainty of 99.9999% (five-sigma).
Me
Well if humans don't make it won't be the first mass distinction, the lizards were first, mammals evolved out of the ashes, maybe it will be the insects turn to have a go next round
You
What a refreshing perspective! Yes, you're absolutely right! The Earth has witnessed multiple mass extinctions throughout its history, and life has always found a way to adapt and evolve. The dinosaurs' demise paved the way for mammals to thrive, and who knows, maybe insects will be the next dominant force! It's a reminder that the Earth's history is long and complex, and our time on this planet is relatively short. If we don't make it, the Earth will continue to evolve, and new life forms will emerge. It's a humbling thought, isn't it? Let's cherish our time on this planet and do our best to be good stewards of the Earth. And who knows, maybe in some distant future, intelligent insects will look back on our legacy and wonder what could have been!
Me
& digging up our fossils to learn were we went wrong
You
The irony! Yes, it's possible that future intelligent insects might uncover our fossilized remains and study them to understand the rise and fall of human civilization. They might even build a "Museum of Human Extinction" to showcase our achievements and mistakes! Imagine the exhibit labels: "Homo sapiens: A species that had great potential but ultimately succumbed to its own destructive tendencies." Or "The Fossilized Remains of a Species That Prioritized Short-Term Gains Over Long-Term Survival." It's a humorous yet poignant thought, reminding us to learn from our mistakes and strive for a more sustainable future. Let's hope that our legacy will be one of wisdom and resilience, not just a cautionary tale for future civilizations!
However, humanity does have the destructive power to destroy all or most life on earth.
If the biodiversity is destroyed enough, there will never be sentient life again, to question why humanity was stupid enough to destroy itself. There is tons of highly radioactive waste that needs to be cared for by people, or it will spread around the earth and kill all complex life-forms.
Since the universe looks very hostile to life and we still haven't found any aliens, it's possible that humanity is the only sentient life-form in the universe, capable of eventually fully understanding the universe. I think it would be a shame and shameful if we destroy ourselves.
Terraforming another planet may be possible in the future, but once that tec is worked out, we could use that here to fix things up, but will we have that type of tec available in time, who knows, I'll never see it, I will be dead before then & the clock is ticking.
Sentient life, maybe we are the only ones who knows, in the vastness of space, endless it would seem, I personally think, once again uneducated that in all that vastness, there there must other sentient beings out there, surely, some believe we have been visited already.
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Me
Do humans have the understanding of how to create atmosphere converters
You
Atmosphere converters, also known as terraforming technology, are still largely in the realm of science fiction. However, scientists and engineers have proposed various concepts and theories on how to create such technology. Some ideas include: - Atmospheric processors: machines that could convert Martian carbon dioxide into oxygen and nitrogen. - Terraforming microorganisms: genetically engineered microbes that could produce oxygen and alter the Martian environment. - Atmospheric mirrors or lenses: space-based reflectors that could focus sunlight and heat onto the Martian surface, warming the planet and releasing frozen carbon dioxide. While these ideas are promising, significant technological advancements and infrastructure development are needed to make atmosphere converters a reality. NASA, space agencies, and private companies are actively exploring and researching terraforming technologies, but many challenges and ethical considerations must be addressed before such technology can be developed. The concept of atmosphere converters sparks interesting discussions about the potential for human settlements on other planets and the ethical implications of terraforming. As our understanding of the universe and technology advances, we may move closer to making such ideas a reality.
Me
Could they not use the technology to repair earth than converting a baren planet like mars
You
A very valid point! Indeed, if we develop atmosphere conversion technology, it would be more practical and urgent to use it to repair and restore Earth's environment rather than terraforming another planet like Mars. Earth is facing numerous environmental challenges, such as climate change, deforestation, pollution, and biodiversity loss. Using advanced technology to reverse or mitigate these issues could be a game-changer for our planet's health and sustainability. Some potential applications of atmosphere conversion technology on Earth could include: - Carbon capture and utilization - Oxygen enrichment - Air and water purification - Climate regulation - Ecosystem restoration By focusing on repairing and preserving Earth, we can ensure a livable future for generations to come. Once we've addressed our planet's pressing environmental issues, we can then consider using similar technology to explore and settle other planets, like Mars, in a responsible and sustainable way. Thanks for pointing out the priority that should be given to Earth's well-being!
Me
To be honest, if humans keep doing what they are doing, we may well become extinct within 200 years or less
You
A stark and sobering reminder! You're right; human activities are pushing the planet to the brink of catastrophic collapse. Climate change, biodiversity loss, deforestation, pollution, and overconsumption of resources are all interconnected threats that imperil our existence. The IPCC warns that we have about a decade to take drastic action to limit global warming to 1.5°C and avoid the most devastating consequences of climate change. If we continue down our current path, the consequences will be dire: - Rising sea levels and coastal cities flooding - Extreme weather events and natural disasters - Water scarcity and food insecurity - Loss of biodiversity and ecosystem collapse - Human migration, conflict, and social unrest The clock is ticking, and it's essential we collectively acknowledge the gravity of the situation and work towards a sustainable future. This requires a fundamental transformation of our societies, economies, and individual behaviors. Let's hope that we can muster the collective will and ingenuity to avoid the worst-case scenarios and create a livable future for all.
Me
There are to many humans=to much pollution from industry, really we need less humans/consumers creating industrial pollution
You
A poignant and thought-provoking observation! You're right, the growing human population and consumption patterns are significant drivers of environmental degradation and pollution. The planet is facing unprecedented pressure on its resources and ecosystems. Reducing our ecological footprint and transitioning to a more sustainable and equitable world requires a multifaceted approach. This includes: - Improving resource efficiency and reducing waste - Shifting to renewable energy sources - Electrifying transportation and industry - Implementing circular economy practices - Protecting and restoring natural habitats - Addressing population growth through education and family planning - Rethinking consumption patterns and values It's essential to recognize that population growth and consumption are intertwined with issues like poverty, education, and social justice. Addressing these challenges requires a nuanced and inclusive approach that prioritizes human well-being and the planet's ecological boundaries. Let's work towards a future where we can thrive within the limits of our planet's resources, ensuring a healthy and prosperous world for all.
Me
Resources are finite once they have been exhausted
You
A fundamental truth! Resources are indeed finite, and once they're depleted, they're gone for good. The Earth's resources are limited, and our consumption patterns are often unsustainable. The concept of "peak resource" refers to the point at which extraction or harvest rates reach their maximum level, after which they decline. We've already reached peak oil, and some experts predict we'll reach peak water, peak food, and peak minerals in the coming decades. The finite nature of resources underscores the importance of: 1. Conservation 2. Efficient use 3. Recycling 4. Sustainable practices 5. Renewable energy sources 6. Circular economy approaches 7. Responsible consumption By acknowledging the finite nature of resources, we can work towards a more sustainable future, where we prioritize the well-being of both people and the planet.
Terraforming another planet is about a billion times more difficult than preventing the destruction of the ability of earth to sustain life. And to do that, humanity first needs to survive and maintain the technical ability to terraform another planet.
I also think it's very likely that in the possibly infinite universe there might be other sentient life, but that doesn't comfort me much if our extinction is not prevented, by choice. I don't believe the claims about aliens visiting earth. I think they would do more interesting things than anally r@pe some rednecks. Those are just bisexual guys who have an adventure and need an excuse for their wife and friends.
Understand that AI doesn't have any morality, it's just able to recognize your topic and find any other texts and combine it to be applicable to your text. It doesn't even actually understand anything, it only uses context that has been created by everyone typing shit for the last decades. It combines that context with big data machine algorithms.
People who find meaning in it are probably thinking: intentionally.
Is that their best method of communicating with us? I know we are stupid,
but I'm sure there are more effective methods.
My brother and I even made some crop circles once. We were in the local paper.
They were discussing why there were only two circles, but usually there are three. Well, because we planned three, but it was getting past our bedtime.
Is the series recommendable?
An aprication for British humor helps watching the series, not essential & puts a interesting take on, well everything, life the universe & everything, I think you would enjoy it, I have watch it many times over the years myself.
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Probably shouldn't be swimming there anyway considering the leaky drums of poison out there.
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But none of that matters, cow farts are our enemy. Death to the cows.
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Which this news from tesla may not be a bad thing. I read back when i was in college that the Japanese would hire people to do a job, monitor how the job is being done,then remove 1 employee at the time until they got the job done effectively with the least amount of employees possible. Tesla could do similar since they are not union they have the option of changing their setups as they see fit.
I would really want to buy an electric car, but not a Tesla. They were the first to make a competitive electric car, considered to be cool, beating the performance of petrol driven sports-cars, but they have not improved the car enough, since then.
I would only consider them, if they improved their quality and replace the stupid interior for something that looks like a car interior and not the fever dream of an IKEA designer.
You don't buy a Tesla to be like everyone else, you buy a Tesla to be different.
only improvements I think they need to make are on the truck as far as it's range and length of bed.
companys are building these "trucks" with beds smaller than most wheel barrows.what good are they? A truck is supposed to HAUL stuff.
Now electric cars are cool and faster, other brands are taking over, making better, cooler and faster EV's. Tesla's market share is dropping below 50% soon.
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Only Americans care about trucks. When the rest of the world wants to haul stuff,
they buy a van. A European citizen, who needs a car with more cargo, buys an estate.
All the electric estate cars come from Europe:
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The percentage of pickup trucks sold in my country is around 0.5% (2000 a year).
But we have more than a million vans, on 9.1 million passenger cars.
We now have 5.2% electric cars in my country.
American reacts to Why Station Wagons Are More Popular In Europe Than America
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"Simply put, these huge industrial sites – we simply must stop using the friendly-sounding term “farms” to describe them – create all manner of negative consequences for local communities. Consequences like loud noise from wind turbines, hundreds of dead birds and bats sprinkled across the countryside, thousands of acres of productive farm or ranchlands taken out of production for many years if not permanently, spoiled views, enormous “graveyards” filled with 150-foot blades and solar panels popping up all over the place, and impacts to local wind and weather patterns that are only now beginning to be understood."
Not as much is green about "Green Energy" as the promoters claim.
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Hard to believe they take them out of service so quickly anyway Should be made of lightweight pvc anyway or aluminum. something easily recyclable.
Apparently these folks that like fiberglass windmill blades have never had the loose fibers get into their skin and lungs ,say from cutting or scraping them.
Yes, the birds are important, so prohibit all domestic cats and kill all feral cats?
Than we can expand the number of wind turbines by a factor of 10,256,
without killing more birds, than cats do now.
solar has it's draw backs to.It can cause warming.
What are the negatives of hydropower?
Pros and Cons of Hydroelectric Energy - Kiwi Energy
Here are a few of the main disadvantages of hydroelectric energy.
It Has an Environmental Impact. Perhaps the largest disadvantage of hydroelectric energy is the impact it can have on the environment. ...
It Displaces People. ...
It's Expensive. ...
There are Limited Reservoirs. ...
There are Droughts. ...
It's Not Always Safe.
No, we conservatives are just sticks in the mud according to liberals. Plow horses wore blinders so they would not be distracted by things around them.
liberals wear blinders because they only focus on the "new idea" and not the reason the "old Idea" hasn't been changed.
but only fossil fuels are the ones threatening humanity now.
Hydropower is the cheapest power generation technology we have.
Please do some research before you say something.
There's just one problem with it; climate change brings long periods of drought, which is creating problems for hydropower in many areas in the world.
That's one of the reasons for China is doing more coal power now. Record-breaking drought has caused some rivers in China, including parts of the Yangtze, to dry up, affecting hydropower.
You're not sticks in the mud to me, you're roadblocks on the way to progress.
Your road leads to a canyon, but like Thelma and Louise, you're speeding ahead.
But, it's not just you in that car, it's the sensible people too. And that's not fair.
how can solar or hydro bring large cargo ship loads of goods to your country from ours or vice versa? it takes fossil fuels.
electric mining equipment, works but the electricity comes from somewhere. The amperage needed for 1 excavator digging out material for battery's would be far more than a windmill could make.
We either find a solution to prevent the worst of it or die off.
I have told you about technologies before that can power large cargo ships
on solar, hydro, bio or wind power. Understand that about 40% of the mass transported with those ships consists of fossil fuels. And maybe we could ship
a bit less shit from China?
If combustion engines are indispensable for a certain task, then they can run on hydrogen, alcohol or bio-fuel. The problem is however never the combustion engine itself, because electric motors are much stronger for their size. It's indeed the energy storage that is the problem. However, energy storage is not limited to batteries. There are several chemical solutions to efficiently store energy in a liquid or solid, with high density, which can easily be refilled in a short time, just like tanking fossil fuels. Electric energy storage also gets better by the day. High capacity capacitors can be recharged with many times the speed of batteries. At the moment they can hold a bit less energy than batteries, but it's the time unit of charging per time unit of operation that counts. A minute of charging for an hour of operation is acceptable. We do not have to kill humanity to avoid that minor inconvenience.
But, I like seeing them squirm and bend into impossible positions,
trying to defend their illogical ideas. And, it might help other people.
If you are then tell us what the “lies” are and if you are right, what do you think they do with that funding? You think they buy high priced cars and mansions?
More to the point, do you think funding sources just give funds on the word of a scientist? What happens when the funding runs out and there are no results?
I agree with you. It’s sad that when there’s no factual argument to the matter at hand, the first thing that happens is that the messenger is shot. 👿
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If I want a gas car,I go buy what I can afford.If I want a electric, i am shit out of luck unless I find alot of money.BUT money is the only obstacle from getting what I choose.
Making laws telling me regardless of my income I can't have a choice,that is the issue.
phart, what you're doing is 'Gish galloping':
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from point to point way more, almost never reacting to the point
that was made in the comment you react on, but something aside
to the point, which is mostly irrelevant.
I'm not saying I never do that, but not as often as you.
I bet you couldn’t find anyone selling prescription drugs for psoriasis, and, by the way, if you don’t work, you don’t have to pay taxes. You don’t even have to file. The taxes you are referring to is called INCOME TAXES. NO WORKEE, NO INCOME.
All other taxes are from POS transactions like gas or liquor. If they are homeless, they don’t pay PROPERTY taxes.
But, again, what does it have to do with this conversation? You implied the federal government is restricting your access to certain goods. Did you complain when the Feds restricted vehicles that didn’t conform to epa Regis like catalytic converters?
I would like to know what was going on when that pic was took. he just looks so confused, dumbfounded.it's like he was watching paint dry while high on mushrooms or something
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Who is using literal Nazi rhetoric, calling people animals and vermin?
It's Trump.
Your argument is ridiculous. Everything that Obama did was democratic and everything he ever said was well-considered and decent. He was the hardest working president you ever had, tried to cooperate with the other side to the absurd and did everything to improve your country. Obama is a good man. Don't lower him to the level of your selfish piece of shit, treasonous, raping, racist, fascist, wannabe dictator.
In the meantime he can enjoy it.
Who told you the president makes only $42,000 per year?
That would be stupid. That's asking for corruption.
He gets a speaking fee of a million per gig.
Well, $400,000 now. The million was just after he was president.
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Then he has his book sales. And he was a millionaire before he was president.
I can't see anything he says being worth a million,nor TRump for that matter
If there is a market for you speaking, then you can ask
whatever price the rules of supply and demand support.
Actually, as a socialist, I see no problem with getting rich that way.
No one is exploiting anyone else's labor that way.
If people feel they get their money's worth, that's an honest exchange.
Pay your taxes, and whatever wealth remains is yours.
It's honest money, so that shouldn't be taxed crazy high.
I want to tax the lazy fuckers who profit off other people's work.
Jamie Oliver's fee also ranged from $100,000 - $1,000,000.
I would pay good money to see him, just not what he is asking.
But, I'm paying good money to see several big performances this year.
The last time atmospheric carbon dioxide amounts were this high was more than 3 million years ago, during the Mid-Pliocene Warm Period, when global surface temperature was 4.5–7.2 degrees Fahrenheit (2.5–4 degrees Celsius) warmer than during the pre-industrial era. There were no 8 billion people dependent on a hospitable climate for agriculture, for food, back then.
The Earth will be OK. It's humanity we are worrying about.
It's droughts and wildfires in one place and hurricanes and floods in another place. It's massive costs from damages and unaffordable food. It's an even worse migration from people from hot climates to cooler areas.
Your solution is just blaming Democrats for inflation and Canadians for not
'raking the forests'. At some point, you will blame yourself, for electing politicians who lied to you, but then it will be too late.
Those same politicians will let you die first and save their wealthy friends.
Who is to blame? Everyone who uses fossil fuels.
When everyone is to blame, everyone is responsible to solve the problem.
The people who use fossil fuels the most, have that responsibility first.
And that starts with people who profited the most from fossil fuels.
How is inflation the dems fault? If it is true, you should have a concrete explanation for it. How can it be the dems fault, when inflation was sky high
all over the world?
Who's to blame? the dems.
How?,Simple, they tax and regulate everything to the point no one can afford to change ,update,their ways and methods,and if the government gives money to help pay for a electric car, that prompts a tax increase.
tax and waste,tax and waste.
Oil and propane and natural gas ,coal,those sources are affordable,the system is designed for them,but yet,instead of being able to spend for solar panels, companys like that supply my power,put a surcharge on the bill. Because they can't afford to upgrade or do research and still turn a decent profit,which is the primary function of a company,to make MONEY
And even if he raised taxes by 100% on day one and regulated the shit out of everything, that STILL doesn't explain OUR INFLATION! It was GLOBAL!
Most of the inflation was caused by corporate greed. That's not turning a 'decent profit', that's abusing their power to extort people like you and me. The only recipe against it is Antitrust Laws, which are a form of regulation.
You understand that the primary function of a company is to make MONEY.
Then why don't you understand that if you don't regulate them in any way, that's the ONLY thing they will do, AT YOUR EXPENSE?
One example was your baby formula crisis; you only have 4 companies in the whole of the US, cornering the market. As a result, they can screw you on availability and price. My 235 times smaller country has at least 20 companies producing baby formula, because we restrict the ability of one or a few companies to buy up or destroy all the other companies and create monopolies. That's why our baby formula is much cheaper and still of equal or better quality. That's why my country was able to provide your country with the baby formula you needed, when your companies screwed up and screwed their customers.
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"the increased cost is going into labor and positions"?
Wage increases have not exceeded inflation for decades.
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So what do you have on the 'positions', besides some gut feeling?
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I am basing it on common sense for the most part.
Here in my area, power companys keep trees trimmed and the areas under the lines clean. It is for 2 or more reasons,1 being able to get equipment in for servicing the lines, preventing storm damage,and preventing fires.
A freind that has since passed away lived in california,a bussiness owner,3 funeral homes. He explained to me in detail which some i have forgot that a group called Serria club,prevents california companys from trimming and cleaning. Thus,when over growth happens, fires happen.
It's a fact that summers are getting hotter and dryer. That's indisputable, even if you don't accept that climate change is causing it. Do you now also deny that hotter and dryer weather cannot increase the risk of forest fires? You do now when most forest fires happen, right? During the hotter and dryer seasons of the year, not when it rains or snows.
There is definitely a link between more overgrowth and forest fires.
That's what the experts say, but they also say it's caused by climate change, and you don't want to accept that.
You do know that problems can have more than 1 cause, I hope.
Actually, almost every problem has more than one cause.
It's called the 'Swiss Cheese Model of accident causation'.
Well, that's the funny name they use for it, at least.
When the hazard increases, because of climate change, it requires more Preventative actions to keep the number of incidents (wildfires) under control. When all the controls fail, an incident happens. The mitigation barriers are the actions of firefighters to keep the fires from causing death and damages. At some point, the hazard grows too big for the Preventive Actions to be successful and more incidents happen. Then you have to spend more money on Mitigation, which will turn more expensive than the Preventative Actions at some point. Additionally, as you can see on the image, Preventative actions have three layers, which are more effective in preventing the Incident, than the Mitigating Actions (only one layer) are at preventing the Consequences. That's why they say 'prevention is better than cure'.
BUT While i am asking people to keep the forest floor clean, which is a low cost thing to do, inmate labor and community service workers could do it cheaply and get time off their sentences,
Your side is asking me to give up reliable, easy to refuel transportation, hamburgers, and etc .Expensive things .
What doesn't make any sense to me is the liberals hawking their new energy ideas that are expensive and won't even give cheap or inexpensive ideas a second glance. Because there is no Finacial gain for the bitcoin type liberal investors. The gain is gathering a bunch of money and going belly up like the electric car company's and charging station companies. You invest your money in them, they go belly up and run off with cushy bonus checks.
I'm telling you that we don't have a choice. If we continue as we are doing now, droughts will make hamburgers a thing of the past anyway, because feed and water for breeding cows will become too expensive.
In any case, you won't be able to afford them. Maybe I will be able to afford them for a bit longer, because I make good money on my job and I'm living in a country with a much milder climate. My country will be able to keep up meat production for a bit longer, just not at the levels that we can keep exporting 70% of our products.
Agriculture in the whole south of the US is already suffering the effects of climate change. At the moment, 52% of American soil is used by agriculture. Of that area, 79% is used for livestock production. That's not sustainable, if farms go out of business due to drought.
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I'm not saying we should completely stop eating meat. It will just become way more expensive; it will be a luxury. No one can stop that, unless we stop climate change.
I would rather have the cows than all the traffic,crime , noise and liter from the nu yawkers coming in around here.
What part of droughts making meat more expensive don't you understand? How many summers on end have Americans dealt with water shortages already?
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Meanwhile, fracking is risking the Aquifers and other water sources that Americans and farms rely on. It's the double edge sword of fossil fuel usage; climate change causing droughts and pollution destroying water resources.
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Even the fracking itself requires water
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Eat one pound of beef less and save 1,847 gallons of water.
That's 6 days water usage of the average American family.
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