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POLITICS...Pertaining to the United States of America.

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 13,Sep,22 03:10  other posts
Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.

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By tecsan [Ignore] 24,Jun,24 04:47 other posts 
Reminder, debate 6/27/24. I believe it is on cnn and FNC.


By phart [Ignore] 12,Jun,24 08:40 other posts 
Well, ananas, looks like your ideas of "paradise" aren't working after all.
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"You really have to look at what's happening in Europe and realize that progressive policies are under attack. People realize the woke left, when they put together their governments and they put together their policies, they can't produce,"

Can't produce,in other words,not working!
By tecsan [Ignore] 12,Jun,24 21:18 other posts 
Go woke go broke Ananas2xLekker. Woke is the most lunacy I have ever heard of from the progressive left. (neo socialism).
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:06 other posts 
Really? Meanwhile you cannot define wokeness, always straw-man the ideas that you think are woke, and you are unable to explain why they are such lunacy.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:05 other posts 
"wokeness" has only recently been defined and from what i understand it is not clear yet.

but wikipedia says
Woke is a political slang adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination. Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.

Slang, something that educated people normally frown on.
From what i see, it encompasses whatever action or issue a person has that won't work or live normally in society.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:35 other posts 
Good, you can use the internet.

So? Why is it 'the most lunacy you have ever heard'?
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 11:22 other posts 
that was texan that said that,
I didn't. Because it is not the stupidest thing I have heard.
What is borderline stupidest is when people believe it and argue for it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 14:40 other posts 
Don't answer replies to his posts then. That's you agreeing with him.
There is no difference between what he says and you say.
Why is it stupid to believe it and argue for it?

Or start by explaining how its possible to BELIEVE woke.
There are social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism,
and denial of LGBT rights. That is not a matter you can believe or not.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 17:17 other posts 
these inequalities for the most part, are social constructs created to cause hatred and division.
The constitution gives us all the same rights, public education k thru 12 is there for the taking for ALL kids to grow up educated and so on.
If adults are unequal it is their choice or lack of making good choices most of the time.
I posted a video of a fellow in UK, that explained this woke stuff and the climate change thing but no one has responded. I guess they don't want to accept the reality explained by someone not of the "science " world.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 06:57 other posts 
You're indeed not woke, if you even deny the existence of the inequalities.

Yes, The Constitution is clear about everyone having equal rights, but the people who have to realize those equal rights don't give a fuck. Your Republicans are destroying public education k thru 12, while we are discussing it. They want to replace it with private schools with a voucher system. As soon as they got what they want, they can cut and gut the voucher system to their heart's content. The school system in Florida is breaking down the fastest. Teachers are leaving, because they cannot live in Florida on that wage and because they are fed-up with DeSantis' stupid anti-woke book banning.
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K thru 12 is NOT kids growing up educated, that's just enough to become a burger flipper. Poor people cannot afford to educate their children, so your education system is only creating more poor people.
Your quality level of education is dropping like a brick. The US is 33rd out of the 44 advanced economies when it comes to the percentage of young people attaining a post-high school degree.

I watched your video. He's funny, but what a bunch of stupid arguments.
First of all; why do you post him, while has has no arguments against woke, besides calling it stupid?

He admits climate change is real, but his argument that he has to do nothing,
is that poor people will not do anything. True, if people are forced to prioritize the survival today, they will not think about survival tomorrow. That's why the rich countries have the responsibility to think about tomorrow. We don't just have the responsibility to reduce our contribution to the problem the fastest, because we created the problem in the first place, we have the responsibility to help them catch up to our level of prosperity, without aggravating the problem we created.

Even if we accept his nonsense, it's still an ignorant argument, because China is doing more to prevent climate change than the US. China is dominating global clean energy technology manufacturing and exports. Meanwhile the US is dominating in fossil fuel production and consumption.

His argument against woke kids, who are protesting the destruction of their future, is accept that your future sucks, work hard for the generation who is causing it, shut up and take it.
His argument is to just drive towards the cliff as fast as you can, because woke is stupid. You accepting that bullshit is stupid.

He is indeed explaining the reality, that people like you say screw the future, by blaming poor people who have a priority to survive. You personally ARE POOR, so I won't hold it against you that you would prioritize your own survival over your survival in the future and the survival of future generations. However, you are NOT prioritizing your own survival today or in the future, because you are accepting lies from wealthy people, which makes you prioritize THEIR wealth
over YOUR survival today and in the future.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 08:11 other posts 
private schools can be selected by parents to make sure their child is educated the way they wish them to be,not the way the government wants. that is the reason for private schools.
A gay couple can send their kid to a private school that has no signs on the toilets, a straight couple can send their kid to a school that teaches the difference in the 2 genders and keeps them separate.Giving the PARENTS the power to parent,not the governments village.

Climate change is inevitable as the earth cools. I don't want to starve to death or live in a cave to make sure people can be here 7 generations from now instead of just 6.
Iran will nuke us all before that becomes a problem because woke people don't want enemys rid of.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 09:06 other posts 
Only if they have the money!!!!!!!!
Poor people won't be able to educate their children, making more poor people.
If poor people will destroy the world, like he says, then stop making more poor people. Do you have a skull of ten feet thick?

You're just repeating his argument that we are doomed anyway, so fuck it.
Meanwhile, you are not benenfitting form his idea, because YOU ARE POOR.
My ideology wants to change that, your ideology wants to keep you poor.
I'm the one who might need to make some sacrifices, for people like YOU.
You are already at the bottom. The equality that I want can only benefit you.

I don't fear that Iran will nuke us all. Those extremist lunatics are still more intelligent than you. If the world ends in a fireball, the US will start it.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 13:26 other posts 
I think you are the 1 with a thick skull or perhaps both of us?
Poor people could afford to educate their kids if the public school system was abolished and the tax money taken from the parents was left with them to spend on the kids education.
and besides, why not government vouchers for private schools?
Why should you work a job, and do what it takes to maintain a decent life and then turn around loose part of it to get someone off the floor? They are not your problem, your problem,or responsibility is YOU and YOUR family.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 15:24 other posts 
Do you know of any private system that is more affordable than a public system, anywhere in the world? Private systems make profit for wealthy people, that's why those systems are always more expensive. They are not in it to provide the public with something they need, but to exploit the system for their own needs.

Our government told us the lie that you are believing. Everything they privatized became more expensive and most of it became worse.

Everyone is my problem, because all our problems are linked in this global community. Education keeps children from being criminals, who endanger my life and the lives of my family members. Poor people are bad for the economy and they don't participate to the progression of humanity.

The guy from your own video told you so. Poor people don't care about climate change. So, that's why we should lift people out of poverty.
It's definitely your skull that is the problem here.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 20:18 other posts 
Or, is it that poor people are the only 1's not gullible to the propaganda??
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Jun,24 05:17 other posts 
Poor people are already dying from that 'propaganda'.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 20:23 other posts 
This layout is not conducive to lengthy discussions. i am sorry my reply was directly under his. I will try to remember to find a way to seperate.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Jun,24 11:29 other posts 
You can answer any comment you want. Just know that when you react to my answer to someone else, in disagreement with my points, I will assume you agree with the comment that I reacted to. If you don't, it would be helpful if you convey your own opinion on the matter first.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Jun,24 23:08 other posts 
Do you think I'm not aware that people don't like immigration?

No one likes immigration, except the people who who want to exploit immigrants.
Stop thinking that I like immigration, because I'm woke.
Woke just means being aware of, and actively fighting against, INJUSTICE!
It comes from "WAKE UP!" and SEE the injustice against ALL OF US.
Injustice being done by the wealthy powerful elites, against you and me and everyone.

I support helping real refugees. That's not 'liking immigration'.
That's just considering that every person on this earth has value.
I think that people who are fleeing INJUSTICE should be helped.

I don't like immigration, I just have better solutions to reduce it,
while simultaneously helping people who are fleeing war and persecution.
It would help a lot to reduce immigration, if you stopped supporting INJUSTICE.
If you had not supported the destruction of Gaza, that's 2.2 million immigrants less.
If you joined my side in combating climate change, that might prevent the oncoming
tidal wave of immigrants fleeing countries that will become to hot for human survival.
If you would stop sanctioning South American countries, you would reduce your own immigration problem of South Americans looking for jobs.

That's not 'woke', that's just using that gray matter in your head.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:08 other posts 
If south american countries would install functional governments that would operate in a way that could be somewhat trusted with what help was offered, the sanctions wouldn't be needed.But there is nothing down there but hoodlums and crooks and the people won't or don't resist.
it took a revolution and a terriable war to break the US free from the tyranny of england and it's taxes and shit.That is what those south american people need to do,FIGHT for their country.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:43 other posts 
It's the sanctions that prevent them from creating "functional governments".
And when they might succeed, you help topple their government.

Your own country hardly has a "functional government", as a result of the Republicans being completely incompetent in the House, and you voting in corrupt hoodlums and crooks as representatives yourself.

The whole of South America is suffering from drugs cartels taking control, because America cannot keep its own people from using drugs and because you let your military industrial complex sell weapons to the drugs cartels. It's your fault their countries are failing in the first place and as a thanks you give them the last kick
by sanctioning them.


By tecsan [Ignore] 14,Jun,24 03:48 other posts 
In my opinion, the democrats are a bunch of damn loons that went off the deep end. Why else would so many be leaving the party???
By dgraff [Ignore] 14,Jun,24 06:54 other posts 
This much i can tell you
Being a democrat 30 years ago was something way different than being a democrat today they have gone off the deep end and we need to come together and stomp the bastards for good if Donald Trump says the word to stomp the Democrats i would be out there with my favorite skinning knife slashing throats i ready to go to war as one of his trained assassin’s
By tecsan [Ignore] 15,Jun,24 05:06 other posts 
Well said. Many close friends of mine that were democrats have also left the party because of the stupidness of their behavior. The dems have falling into a black hole of lunacy.

By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:40 other posts 
You agree with a guy who says: "slashing throats i ready to go to war as one of his trained assassin’s" and then say: "the dems have falling into a black hole of lunacy."

OMFG, you are stupid!!!
By sherryann [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:04 other posts 
The only stupid one is thinking that lone white men are "mass murderers," there's mass murderers killing people every single day & more on weekends where I am.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 10:27 other posts 
And they are NOT 'lone white men'?
Mass murders are committed by a large majority by 'lone white men'.
And mostly by right-wing extremists.

"All U.S. extremist mass killings in 2022 linked to far right, report says"
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By sherryann [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 11:35 other posts 
Not interested in your controlled media. My eyes work well. You probably think all serial killers are white too.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 14:07 other posts 
Have your eyes seen many non-white mass murderers lately?
Yes, most serial killers are white. And most are male.
Those are just the facts.
By dgraff [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 04:54 other posts 
Bull shit in Chicago most of the killings are done by black men and now yet they are shipping in illegal immigrants from all over the world there are your murders don’t you dare sit over there in Dutch land and try to tell us what is happening in America 🇺🇸 we live here and we have eyes we see what is going on
Close the fucking borders
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 09:22 other posts 
Black criminals are mostly killing other black criminals.
Children in school do not need to be protected by armed security,
because of the killing done by black criminals.
The only reason they are not safe, is because of lunatics like you.

In my country, the murder rate is 6 times lower than in yours.
It's also criminals killing criminals, not black per se.
However, our kids are safe, because we do not arm lunatics.

The borders have no relation with your mass murders.
By dgraff [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 09:30 other posts 
So you say come visit one of our major cities you and your family would not last a week in Chicago Illinois without being robbed raped beaten and shot maybe even killed i can guarantee that
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 09:59 other posts 
Your Republicans are lying about crime statistics all the time.
Sure, crime is much higher than in my country, that is true,
but what you make of it is bullshit, the worst areas excluded.

Children in school are not protected by armed security, because of the risk of getting robbed raped beaten and shot maybe even killed, by criminals. They are at risk of getting killed by school shooters, which are almost always right-wing extremist lunatics, radicalized by the same propaganda that you watch.

Still, the borders have no relation with your crime either.
That's your own many generations American black criminals and
lots of white trash criminals.

Your ideas to solve that crime have not worked.
That's why you have so much more of it than my country has.
There is no street in my country where I cannot walk around safely.
It's your own ideas that created the areas in your country,
where you are not safe to walk around. We don't have those,
because we have done that differently.

However, right-wing policies have already made a lot of things worse.
Voters have now elected the most right-wing government we ever had.
So, I predict we will see safety declining to your level soon.
They are already making their first stupid decisions, like cutting funding
for education and for the immigration services intended to send back immigrants who do not have a legitimate reason to be cared for by my country.
Right-wingers often SAY some good things and then DO the exact opposite.
It's people like you, who don't understand action -> consequences,
who keep voting for their cheap stupid ideas and then be angry about
the consequences.
You're starting to sound more and more like one of those crazy mass murderers.
You must be happy that your supreme court reversed the bump stock ban.
When can I expect the news report about you killing 60 people from a hotel window?
By dgraff [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:41 other posts 
Just as soon as my president Donald Trump gives me my orders I will then go to war
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:44 other posts 
History will judge you to be the traitors to democracy.
And you will just be remembered as one of his Kool-Aid drinking cult members.
Just a heads up.
By dgraff [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:47 other posts 
I just hope Donald Trump saves Joe Biden for me when the shit hits the fan
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 09:50 other posts 
Delusional! Like all of people forgotten in history,
you will just be one of the people who died in the first attack.
A stupid stooge, dying for someone who knows how stupid you are to follow him.
By dgraff [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 12:56 other posts 
Hey tell everybody that you know follow me follow me now Donald Trump will lead the way and show us how so follow me now
With the majority of the military being republican just who will protect old Joe Biden his secret service I’m telling you if the Democrats try to cheat in this election they’re will be a war between the Democrats and the Republicans
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 14:07 other posts 
secret service can't even keep themselves safe while in california.! 1 got robbed while biden was hob knobing with the stars and poking along off stage with the helpful advice of his boss.

Is walking slow part of dementia?
One test that may help is gait (walking) speed. Previous research demonstrated that declining gait speed is associated with dementia. Further, several earlier studies showed that a dual decline in both gait speed and cognitive function is a better predictor of dementia risk than either measure alone.Sep 8
By dgraff [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 14:08 other posts 
Trump is literally showing clear signs of brain damage from dementia.
That is confirmed by many neurologists.
Meanwhile, they don't say that about Biden.
Biden is just showing mental decline consistent with aging.

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We all laughed when Biden said "turn the record player on at night".
Trump talks about preferring to be electrocuted over getting eaten by a shark.
You think that is normal? The things Trump is talking about are absurd.
Every single speech he does is madness from the beginning to the end.
And it's all completely self-absorbed, like a little kid speaking.
He sounds a lot more energetic, but it's all chaotic and repetitive.
Biden still makes points and finishes sentences, Trump doesn't.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 22:07 other posts 
Trump has been under alot of stress lately.
Set aside a moment that you do not like the man,IF you were in his shoes, could YOU handle the stress's being placed on him by all this witch hunting and election interference?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 09:29 other posts 
I'm willing to concede that Trump is under a lot of stress.
His lack of sleep might aggravate his brain damage.
That's as far as my sympathy goes for him, because everything
that is happening to him is self inflicted.
Every single thing he is indicted for, is for his own choices and actions.

A man who is stupid enough to fuck up his own life like that,
cannot be trusted to lead the most powerful country in the world.
The majority of the military is indeed Republican, but they also swore to protect democracy. If you try to topple the legitimately elected president, they will have to defend that president. If they are not, they will be traitors, treated as such and judged by history as such.

That's why so many of Trump's former allies speak out against him now.
By dgraff [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 17:30 other posts 
Do you really think that in a chaotic time in a civil war brother against brother democrat against republican those soldiers will really give a fuck about history or how the people will see them of course not they will choose their side and fight for what they believe in
By phart [Ignore] 18,Jun,24 22:10 other posts 
Yea, several law men I have encountered over the years made it clear if the "shit hit the fan", they would walk off their jobs and protect their homes and family's.
I strongly suspect if a pres like biden ask the military to take up arms against Americans, they would walk away and go home to their family's.
I don't want harm to come to biden, I want to live to see the day he has to watch America prosper while he withers away on his front porch.
But I sure as hell wouldn't put myself in harms way to protect him. he aint worth it.
By dgraff [Ignore] 19,Jun,24 03:20 other posts 
Absolutely agreed 👍
The Nazis were fighting for what they believed in too.
Al Qaida terrorists flew themselves into the World Trade Center
for what they believed in.

History will see you as the same bunch of extremist lunatics.
I understand the extremist lunatics don't care about that.
By tecsan [Ignore] 20,Jun,24 01:08 other posts 
Democrats have no clue what is really going on.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Jun,24 05:13 other posts 
Ask Marjorie Taylor Greene then. I'm sure that genius knows.

Has she kicked out Mike Johnson yet, for doing ANYTHING?
So many Democrats are leaving the party, because they don't like how Biden
keeps supporting Israel doing a genocide.

Those are not now Trump supporters, because they are not stupid enough to think Trump is better on that issue. Trump would support Israel killing every last man, woman and child in Palestine and steal their land.

"Around two-thirds of voters (67%) — including majorities of Democrats (77%), Independents (69%), and Republicans (56%) — support the U.S. calling for
a permanent ceasefire and a de-escalation of violence in Gaza."

If you see your president acting against your wishes, you stop supporting him.
I think they will still vote for him, because they know the alternative is worse.


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