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Jail is to good for this bastard.Put him in a pool with some of those Pariona fish. A shallow pool so he can watch them eat his legs off first.
but yes, that's bad and I won't feel sorry for him, whatever punishment he gets.
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And probably none of them will ever face justice.
Not at this rate, with what he's doing now. But, he could be. If he decided to use nukes, the death-toll of Stalin and Hitler could easily be tenfolded.
and the reasons he tells the Russian people are lies.
Are the lives of Iraqi people worth less than the lives of Ukrainian people?
Bush killed a million Iraqi people. Saddam did not have a million soldiers!
What the US called terrorists, were just civilians defending their country
against a foreign invasion, just like the Ukrainian civilians are doing now.
Bush accusing Iraq of 9/11 is just as dishonest as calling the people of Ukraine Nazis. Bush changed the motive later to Iraq has WMD.'s. When that turned out to be lies, most Americans changed their justification to "Saddam was a horrible dictator".
Yes he was, Saddam killed half a million people. Bush killed a million.
Saddam was developing Iraq, Bush turned it back to the stone age.
Most of that million victims were innocent civilians and many of them were women
and children. They died the same way as the victims in Ukraine, being bombed
and shot on sight, for just defending their country.
There were also US soldiers raping and torturing people in Iraq. Some were judged.
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But, ever heard of Abu Ghraib prison? Most of those that were tortured there
were innocent civilians, handed over to the US by warlords.
The Bush Administration is liable for 269 War Crimes.
There is lots of evidence of those War Crimes, but your government calls that 'confidential information' and the whistleblowers who uncover that evidence
to journalists, are called 'spies'.
Just like the US, Russia never agrees with their soldiers and officials being judged
by the International Criminal Court in The Hague. So there will be no 'tribunals'
for any of these war crimes.
Stone age? Hell,they never left it!
The US just wanted to steal the country, because it has great wealth. Iraq holds
the world's fifth-largest proved crude oil reserves at 145 billion barrels, representing 17% of proved reserves in the Middle East and 8% of global reserves. Off course the wealth wasn't shared with the citizens.
In 2002, one in five Iraqis or 4.6 million people suffered from chronic poverty; "About 13 years of stringent economic sanctions, three wars in two decades and failing economic policies have impoverished a majority of the Iraqi people and reduced them to relying heavily on free food handouts."
Would the US share the wealth with the Iraqi citizens? Off course not, the Iraqi people would be even worse off. You just want to steal their oil, because to you
the Iraqi people are just stone age Muslim terrorists, who should be eradicated. That contradicts the one remaining common justification for the Iraq war;
that Saddam was a horrible dictator to his people.
You argue that the US should have been worse than Saddam ever was.
Ukraine also has great wealth, but it was still the poorest country in Europe.
It was suffering from failing economic policies and massive corruption.
It was doing a bit better the last decades, but still had a GDP per capita
of not even half of Russia. If you think superpowers can just steal the lands
from stone age people, than Putin is just doing what you wanted Bush to do.
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I see many similarities between the US wanting to steal Iraq and Russia wanting
to steal Ukraine. The difference is that Ukraine is on the border with Russia and many Russians are living there. The US has no claim whatsoever on Iraq. That still doesn't justify Putin's actions, but his reasons for desiring to steal Ukraine are way more understandable. And his lies for doing so, are not worse than Bush's lies.
to steal it back (if they were capable of it), I would be against that too.
Up to 1830, most of the current Belgium was part of The Netherlands.
I would surely not support our king or our prime minister attacking Belgium,
to take it back.
You can act all indignant about the word 'becoming', but my comments about Putin have been more condemning than what right-wingers were saying about him.
That has changed recently and now he's suddenly compared with the worst monsters to ever walk the planet, like Hitler and Stalin.
Putin is not even close Bush's level yet. But, he's trying hard.
And right-wing outrage about killing civilians is very selective. You are still all whitewashing the mass murder of a MILLION Iraqis. Over half of the Iraqi civilians were killed with bombs and the majority by airstrikes. The US was just bombing houses, with children and women inside. Many children were also killed by unexploded ordnance (including cluster bomblets). More than 100 countries signed the international treaty prohibiting cluster munitions, because those are mass murder weapons. The US dropped a total of 61,000 cluster bombs on Iraq, releasing twenty million submunitions. That's much worse than Putin (so far).
US troops also killed 200,000+ Afghan citizens, but at least there was some justification from 9/11 for that. There was absolutely no justification for attacking Iraq, other than war hawks in your government, with massive ties to the military industrial complex, wanted to do so. But their propaganda campaign was obviously still effective on you until today. Other strategies work well too, like complete silence on massive war crimes by your friends. Because I never hear anything from right-wingers about Saudi Arabia doing genocide in Yemen. You and your friends can kill as many and who ever you want, because your intent is 'good' on presupposition.
Why do you keep telling us All Lives Matter?
We all know you don't give a damn if they are fucking Arabs.
The middle east has been a hot bed for violence before the USA was even a dream. Those people know nothing but war and hatred for anyone but their own kind.The koran teaches them to convert everyone to islam or kill them.
they only tolerate the infedals when it is to their advantage.
Are you talking about Iraq now? Because that is nonsense. Iraq was a normally functioning state at that point. It was a dictatorship, but it was stable. There were lots of religious fundamentalists living there too, but they were just citizens and Saddam Hussein managed to keep them under control. He was not doing that with gloves on, but what he did was a minute fraction of what the US needed to do, to contain the terrorist threat again. A threat that the US unleashed on the world, by destabilizing Iraq and giving religious fundamentalist citizens a chance to unite and start fighting for their theocratic hegemony wet dream.
That all started way after the US defeated Iraq and put in a fake government. The body count was up to half a million before Islamic State was really awakening.
The rest I mostly agree with.
The Middle East has been a powder keg for decades. But the US lit the fuse.
I just can't decide if it was stupidity or intent, because all the people responsible made lots of money from their ties to the military industrial complex.
All those trillions of tax dollars made lots of people very rich.
I just think you have a tendency to point blame to victims.
Your intuition is that people only kill in self defense,
which is admirable, but in my opinion more often incorrect.
In my opinion, in any case of one person killing another,
the burden of proof it was legitimate is on the survivor,
in any case of a nation attacking another nation, the attacking
nation needs to show it is necessary for defending itself, there is
no other solution and their own laws and international laws are obeyed.
If people defend an attacking country or a person killing another
and I don't recognize the justification, than my intuition is that
lives don't matter to those people.
What incredibly hyperbolic! Over half of US abortions are done with pills.
90% of abortions is performed BEFORE week 12. In weeks 9-12 that's often performed with suction curettage, in which the fetus indeed gets torn apart.
But it's at most about 6cm long, about the size of a plum and weighs about 18g. It cannot feel anything yet. It's just your idea that it is a person and it's gruesome, because it looks a bit like a tiny baby. Yes, it's not a pretty sight.
Get over it little snowflake. It doesn't feel anything!
Cows and pigs do feel something when they are pushed and pulled around
to be slaughtered. Chickens are fixed on a conveyor belt, upside down by their feet. Than knives cut off their heads. In some cases that doesn't work and they get plucked alive by a machine. Every animal we eat suffered fear and pain.
Have you ever seen that? Are you a vegetarian now?
People making fun of vegetarians are mostly right-wingers. They think of them as little snowflakes. Well you are little snowflakes and vegetarians have more reason to say "it's gruesome, so I am against it" than you. But they are not forcing other people to stop eating meat.
You think eating meat is FREEDOM, but you don't care about women's RIGHT to choose over their own bodies. Women only have FREEDOM over their body when it comes to vaccines (which I also support).
“Partial birth” is a political, not medical, term, and it does not refer to all late-term abortions. It refers to a very specific and rare procedure called dilation and extraction*, in which a fetus is partially pulled through the birth canal and then aborted, nearly always when the fetus cannot live outside the womb and typically when the mother’s health is in danger, the fetus has a serious abnormality, or both. Such a procedure is not conducted lightly: the fetus has a fatal defect and will not survive, or the mother is at risk of death herself.
I keep pressing you, because you keep justifying your ideas with hyperbolic nonsense. Stop spreading nonsense and I stop attacking the nonsense.
but it's justified!
Uncovering a plot against human dignity is a virtue.
Really take a minute and think,How can you know when life it's self happens when dr's don't even know?
Remember Ameba's are 1 cell creatures and they live.
Since I can't prove when life begins, I can't agree that 2 cells don't mean the beginning.
I know dr's know what the brain cell looks like. BUT can they explain why yours and mine for example work differently at a basic level?
Why don't you first argue, why the point that life begins is applicable, to the right of a woman to choose whether she wants to carry that fertilized egg for 9 months, give birth to the child that grows out of it and in general be required to care for that child for at least the next 18 years?
Because that fertilized egg is not more special than the ones ending up in sanitary napkins every month. It only takes an abortion pill, for it to end up the same way.
Even if that one or a few cells are alive, it's not the ending of 'a life'.
When that fertilized egg has grown to a fetus, that could survive outside the womb, abortion would end a human life, but it's not killing a person, with thoughts and fears.
Still, it's my personal principle to not allow abortion at that point.
However, the life of the mother is more important, because she IS a person with thoughts and fears. If her life is in danger, it's valid to induce birth and incubate the premature baby, to save it's life, if it has a chance to have a healthy life.
I don't care when life begins, because I don't care about an Ameba. Since I do care about a baby (which we call a fetus after it's born and independently alive), there is a process where that fertilized egg gains value (for me) over its gestation.
As if you have never heard a babys heart beat inside it's mother,or watched the baby's kicks while a woman is sitting on the couch. the feelings we have of security in our mothers arms as babies has nothing to do with it is as close as we can get back into her womb?
We are not wise enough to know when "LIFE" actually begins.
Besides,your idea is canceling out alot of folks ideas of reincarnation is it not?
I said that a fertilized egg being classified as life or not, is irrelevant to me.
An ameba is life, but I don't care about something as primitive as an ameba. Actually an ameba qualifies more as life, because it doesn't require a womb
to stay alive.
Your personal ideas of when "LIFE" actually begins should remain personal and not affect any others. It is a Christian narrative that has been indoctrinated in every fiber of people's beings, even if they managed to break free of religion itself. There is nothing special in a tiny clump of cells. We can have a discussion on when the fetus has value enough that we don't allow abortion anymore, but you completely ignore the value of the woman. You want to treat them as slaves, to your ideas. I never hear you talk about freedom anymore. Have you realized that you actually don't care about freedom?
Maybe it's just your own freedom you care about. Things like owning guns
and being allowed to kill anyone who even looks at you or your property.
Because being pro-life stops directly at birth. From that moment on people should just be completely dependent on their own choices.
Christian extremist want to turn America into a christian caliphate, but if you actually care about the CONSTITUTION, that says America is a secular country, you should not allow christian ideas to be turned into law.
If people believe in reincarnation it is their freedom to NOT have an abortion. Freedom of religion stops where it affects other people's freedom from it.
Freedom is not freedom of religion, freedom is free FROM religion.
whatever it is that we can't see that makes us LIVE with consciousness memory and etc, is just a fluke that is meaningless since we can't pinpoint it's origin?
Take religion out of the picture a moment.
What makes a desk a simple blob of molecules and cells that were once a living tree not able to talk,think?
what makes a simple blob of water and cell that make up a human be able to talk,thing and etc? There is something there that you ,me, Cat,no one ,can put a finger on that makes us ALIVE. That is why there is a issue. we take away that gift or that phenomenon or that 94 billion happy mistakes floating around on the earth.
Who's here almost every day cautioning about humanity destroying life?
"whatever it is that we can't see that makes us LIVE with consciousness memory and etc"
A fertilized egg doesn't have that, a baby has (some). I'll allow abortion, up to the point that egg has grown to the complexity that I start caring about it. The choice of a woman is more important than the 'life' of something with the complexity of an Ameba or a mouse or a chicken. Actually, my limit on abortion is before the complexity of the fetus consciousness even approaches that of a mouse.
"is just a fluke that is meaningless since we can't pinpoint it's origin?"
It's the BRAIN. Real easy to pinpoint. Damage it and the consciousness memory is diminished. Destroy it and it's gone. Only religion claims otherwise.
"Take religion out of the picture a moment. What makes a desk a simple blob of molecules and cells that were once a living tree not able to talk,think?"
Again, a BRAIN. This is not rocket science.
"what makes a simple blob of water and cell that make up a human be able to talk,thing and etc?"
For the third time; A BRAIN! We have 100 billion neurons doing all that stuff.
Our brain has evolved in 8 to 10 million years from the thinking power of an ape to the thinking power of humans, even though that thinking power wildly varies.
"There is something there that you ,me, Cat,no one ,can put a finger on that makes us ALIVE. That is why there is a issue. we take away that gift or that phenomenon or that 94 billion happy mistakes floating around on the earth."
That is a religious argument. And everyone that thinks that way can choose to not get an abortion. The problem is that your law will cancel the right for everyone that doesn't think that way.
When did you start to feel that you were alive? Was that when you were a fertilized egg or a clump of cells? You were hardly conscious up to an age of months after birth. Your BRAIN was not developed enough yet. However, you were able to feel pain and discomfort around week 20 into gestation. We know that, because without nerves and enough brain cells, feeling pain is impossible.
All doubt on this subject is caused by religion. It uses the idea of life after death to control people. "Yes, life sucks and it's our fault, but listen to us and you will be rewarded AFTER DEATH, not listen to us and you will suffer for eternity AFTER DEATH".
Even you should understand that there is at least a good chance there is NOTHING AFTER DEATH. Who is the sucker then for having listened to religion's promises and threats.
I don't want a society that makes choices on what religions claim, because the holy books can be used to claim anything. And I do not trust anything they say happens after DEATH, because it hinders society and people to make the best of LIFE. And FREEDOM OF CHOICE is very important to a woman's life. More important than the life of a fertilized egg, a zygote and a fetus (up to a point).
You think you should be allowed to kill a mugger, when he tries to take your stuff. You value that mugger less worth than a fertilized egg. Is your life affected by that mugger more, than a woman who is forced to have a baby she didn't want? And then you are killing a person who clearly shows he is ALIVE, no assumption of 'something' needed.
The real ignorant people surrounded the houses of the parents of the CHILDREN (not clumps of cells) who were killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting.
Were those parents threatening your human dignity rights?
Has anyone even lifted a finger against you right to own guns?
Those fuckers were threatening parents, who had recently lost their children, because of your right to own guns?
Abortion is not threatening the fetuses of right-wingers and religious people, they can make their own choices. Guns are threatening everyone, from zygote to grandparents.
Right-wingers are the radicals.
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destroying or stealing information from the public isn't.
But attempting to overturn the election he lost, in a big conspiracy
against the American voter, that is treason and worthy of the death penalty.
Unfortunately your justice system is waiting till he keels over from his fat heart.
All lives can't matter until black lives matter too. They don't know.
But, it might be true that no lives matter, because what actually happens,
when any lives get ended or destroyed? A big bunch of nothing!
At least black people care. You think they only care about black people, but the solutions they are proposing will protect ALL lives. That proves they mean 'too'.
Most of my family are liberals so it does not bother me...
BLM has never done any harm to anyone! Those were all infiltrators!
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