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TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME analysis.

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Started by #559941 [Ignore] 11,Dec,18 14:01
Trump Derangement Syndrome
The latest attempt by the alt-right to demonize anybody who thinks that maybe putting a reality TV star who's declared bankruptcy six times in charge of the country might not have been the best idea.
"So what if Trump only told the complete truth throughout 4% of his campaign, and had to settle out of court for that fraud trial, and that he reacts like a spoiled brat on Twitter to any kind of criticism? Geez, you libtard SJW snowflakes just have accept democracy won and stop exercising your right to free speech! You're so negative with your Trump Derangement Syndrome!"

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By phart [Ignore] 08,Mar,24 13:39 other posts 
It has became obvious a certain "gentleman" has been posting here and I can't see him without logging out. Why hide? skeered ? you musta banned me ,that means I can't read your insults. must not be your photos on your album page, that person has gonads. My guess is a leo alter profile.
Just because we don't agree on anything doesn't mean you have to hide from me. we are miles apart,don't know each other, no real danger of either of us harming the others reputation except on this forum, so why are you hiding?


By phart [Ignore] 07,Mar,24 20:36 other posts 
I am not going to watch the state of the union address, I usally do but this year all I have to do is look around me to know things are simply FUCKED.I don't need a grey haired,old racist,**** reminding me of how bad it is.
BUT I must say i am curious as to how in these last moments before they prop him up on stage,what pills are they giving him? Are they giving him pep talks like " GO JOE you can do this buddy and we promise you can sleep late in the morning. and watch saturday cartoons the next day!


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Mar,24 04:01 other posts 
Yeah, the true free speech warriors:
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By #711639 04,Mar,24 20:02
has anyone seen Trump_supporter pr Trump_supporter_2


By #709631 22,Feb,24 15:16
CAT and I got into it. She called me a jerk.. then when I said she sent me the message to Get my penis circumcised down to my balls it was an antisemitic attack. Skittles can verify this. Now she is in denial. This went viral and she quadrupled down in public forum telling me to castrate myself. She is the most hated fake on the site and will all out putting the site into legal jeopardy.
She called me a racist so I put rats on her page. Now she is the victim and pretending I was in the wrong.
By #681164 22,Feb,24 15:35
CAT is my wife and I’m pretty much into her stuff. She didn’t call you you a jerk. She even said so in this same thread:
“ I did not call you a jerk. I called Trump a jerk and, I think, I can just by bringing up ONE thing about him. He raped a woman. This is not conjecture. It’s true and ratified by a court of law. There’s many more “things” but, that’s enough. Are you going to refute that or are you going to exit stage left and counter with your usual platitudes?”—CAT
As far as Sir-Skittles is concerned, Trump is considered a very truthful person compared to him
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BTW, you are a racist and you can send any amount of trash gifts. I don’t care.
By #709631 22,Feb,24 18:12
She told me at one time To circumcize my penis until it is balls deep after telling her I was a jew and all because we disagreed.. She sqw my penis and saw it was circumcised.That is antisemetic and unacceptable.. Twowamth and hotpussy is her precious aliases. This is unaccesible. She said that jerk meaning it was for me so I took it as meant for me. How you married her is up to you but what she did to me is unacceptable, I have witnesses. If you continue to stalk and harass me over this subject is a token of your character too. Just stay out of it. She banned me? Tell her to keep me banned.

You married her, you love her. What she did was wrong. How you behave will show character based on truth. You don't even know me. She went passed the line and she did it at least 4 times called me a filthy jew. I have witnesses.
By #681164 23,Feb,24 11:40
You must be SirFrog or something like that. That’s the only one she lost her temper with and the only one she said what she said to. I’m not harassing or stalking you. I’m just commenting on my wife. Being circumcised in the US doesn’t mean you are Jewish. Practically every American male is circumcised. She has been with circumcised males.
You, for some reason, get all riled up about what is obviously, your religious ancestry. Get off your high horse. Now me? I don’t care who or what you are, so, you can take a 20 foot walk on a 10 foot pier for all I care. She banned you so she won’t give you a second thought. That’s the end.
By #709631 23,Feb,24 17:45
I don't give a fuck about you or her. . You deserve each others excrement. Your fucking trailor park fucktard wife fucked with the wrong Jew. You're next, you got it or do I have to spell it out another way?
By #681164 23,Feb,24 17:55
You spell what ever you want. Maybe, you’ll get lucky and say something worthwhile. Am I allowed to say, “I understand why she called you a dirty fucking Jew”? I hope so.
By #711639 03,Mar,24 22:11
trump_supporter_2. You're wasting your time, you are dealing with a retard
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 07:32 other posts 
get your facts from somewhere more reliable than The View

Trump was NOT convicted of ****. It was not even a criminal trial.

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point. Despite Carroll's claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense.
By #681164 23,Feb,24 11:42
The implications are there. How come you people accept Biden actions without proof but won’t take the opinions of a judge in a civil trial? Double standards?
By phart [Ignore] 27,Feb,24 15:00 other posts 
liberal judges ,biased justice system. I don't trust either.
By #681164 29,Feb,24 11:04
Your loss, Mr Phart. Not having some confidence in our judicial system must make you a very afraid individual. Do you fear the law will knock on your door and take you in for not trusting them?
By phart [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 12:55 other posts 
I don't shiver in fear of it no.
BUT at the same time i don't push my luck by habitually breaking the law to find out how they would treat me either.
But in 1 example, Twice here in my state the voters approved Voter ID laws. the last time, 1 judge, ONE JUDGE, decided it was wrong and stopped it, just in time for joe biden to be elected.
NOW that the damage is done, somehow his ruling got over turned and we FINALLY now have voter ID.
I feel more comfortable voting now because I know it will be more difficult to fraud the system in my state.
But judges do things like this all over the country. And or let criminals off the hook because of technicality's. only for them to commit more crimes.
I guess you could say a lack of confidence is a better way to discribe how i feel about the justice system than lack of trust, but they run hand in hand.
By #681164 01,Mar,24 13:45
Do you feel a “technicality” should be ignored and the defendant be convicted anyway? If so, who would determine what is a technicality and what is not? My question leads to this, suppose the cops install an illegal tap on your phone and they hear you confess to a crime, should a judge throw out the evidence because it was illegally obtained? Most technicalities exist to protect the rights of the accused. It’s a matter of that pesky document known as The Constitution. You know that document. It’s the one that guarantees freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, no cruel and unusual punishment and protection from illegal search and seizure.
Another thing, since you’ve brought it up, in the “Joe Biden” election, how many fake voters do you estimate voted for one of the two candidates? Do you believe that Biden won your distric with fake voters? Is there a possibility that the margin of victory for Biden could have been much larger if all those fake MAGA voters hadn’t voted for Trump?
It’s a slippery slope, my friend.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Mar,24 16:24 other posts 
I can't fix the past and if evidence was found that wrong doing took place that democrats couldnt' fuckup, it's to late to undo the damage.
All I can do is vote on march 5th in the primary and in november. and know my vote is not going to be stolen or faked
By #681164 01,Mar,24 18:57
By #711639 04,Mar,24 00:19
and you will not be pushed around. What a moron..


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Mar,24 17:26 other posts 
Jimmy Kimmel pranked Trumpsters. Damn, they are dishonest.
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It would be impossible to get me like that, because I vote for decent and smart people
and what's more important, I don't change my opinions based on the side it applies to.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Feb,24 11:46 other posts 
Anyone who has donated to this cause has Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Trump has been scamming his workers, subcontractors, customers, business associates, lawyers and the taxpayer all his life. For the people who want to help him pay his deserved punishment; he thinks of you as his stupid little bitches and he's correct.
He has been scamming dumb-asses like you his whole life.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Feb,24 15:27 other posts 
So if someone you support has been unjustly punished, you do nothing?
There was no crime, no victims, no losses, no harm.
Just some liberals trying to destroy someone they don't like.
By #610414 21,Feb,24 10:28
Phart, unjustly punished is your opinion, unless, you think this country has no legal systems anymore.
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Feb,24 23:53 other posts 
CAT I really think you should read Amendment XIII and Amendment XXV.
By #610414 22,Feb,24 10:56
The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Ok, now what? You are convicted of a crime, you do the time. The vice-prez, along with some uppity ups in government think the President should be removed? Ok.
What does this have to do with Trump losing a civil trial that acknowledges that he raped a woman?
By tecsan [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 01:21 other posts 
CAT I do believe that you should read above. Joey is violating A13S1 by allowing people to come here as servants, sex trafficked etc. Now that is slavery, Wake Up. Oops forgot you are probably already WOKE.

Oh, biden does the crime but is found mentally incapable of facing a judge and jury.

According to your remarks about Trump, he could claim the same.

You should look up Amendment VIII.
By #610414 28,Feb,24 11:18
He’s not allowing anything. Is the mayor of your city liable if you crash your car because he makes sure the roads are maintained?
You, MAGA’s, are truly reaching. No matter. It looks like, barring a catastrophe, that the Clown will challenge the incumbent. That is perfect. It’s much easier to win if the challenger is a criminal idiot.
No crime?
- 34 felony counts over falsifying business records to conceal hush-money payments
- 40 felony counts in Florida related to the classified documents
- 4 felony counts in Washington related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election
- 13 felony counts in Georgia related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election

He was already found liable for sexual abuse, liable, fraud, conspiracy, issuing false financial statements and falsifying business records.

Since when do sexual abuse and liable not make victims?
He did the conspiracy, issuing false financial statements and falsifying business records TO ENRICH HIMSELF, to the disadvantage of business associates, the capitalist system that you value so much, the competition and the tax-payer.
He is nothing but a lowlife thief, the type of person that you fantasize about murdering.
By #709631 21,Feb,24 18:06
No crime.
This has already been covered. Are you going around in circles again? Just look at you go
.. Like curly twirling on the floor when he forgets his lines. I have better things to do today .
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 16:18 other posts 
And you denying obvious facts, again and again and again.
And you not ever finding any reason or argument for anything you say.
Do you really have anything useful to do? You are 100% useless here.
Even your profile is as pristine as your virginity.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Feb,24 19:13 other posts 
to what disadvantage? Banks didn't have to loan him money. they did and got paid back.
By #610414 22,Feb,24 11:07
Ok, Phart, go to the local bank to get a loan on your property. Tell them your property is worth twice as much as it actually is. If, after they give you a loan, even if you are paying it off, they find out you lied, they can turn you in to the authorities. You could end up in jail.
The banks, even though they got paid back, were NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE TO TURN DOWN THE LOAN based on the application.
You also forget that if, based on the loan amount, the city re-evaluates properties around his and decide to do so at a greater value, their property taxes would go up. You think this is right? How about if the bank has a yearly budget and this loan keeps the bank from lending to some other borrowers?
What he did was ILLEGAL.
What you are saying is if you take a shot in anger at someone and you miss, well, no harm done. Let’s go home.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 18:17 other posts 
NOt given the chance to turn it down? BULL SHIT.
Banks are NOT required to loan money.And they do their home work. When I applied for a 3000 dollar personal loan a couple years ago, they knew everything about me in a short order. I had a credit score well over 800 so it was not a issue. i can borrow way more than i make! not a good thing but hey, if medical bills come up,at least I can get some help.
But anyway, they know if a property is worth x or xx amount before they loan, they don't take the borrowers word.
When Hunter Biden was indicted for tax fraud, did you say "no crime, no victims,
no losses, no harm"?
Trump has committed 100x the tax fraud for many decades.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 18:18 other posts 
I don't recall saying much about it either way, except in regard to the double standards of justice shown to Trump and to a current presidents son.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 05:56 other posts 
Trump has to pay a fine, Hunter is/was facing prison.
That's the double standards of justice.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 07:31 other posts 
No that is the democrats taking advantage of Trump and giving hunter a break because he hasn't sold enough of his "art" to make that kind of money.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 12:57 other posts 
Hunter didn't stand trial for getting paid to much for his Burisma job or his art, but for tax evasion. He can still be found guilty. I would have no problem with that. However, when cheating on your taxes are a criminal offense, that applies to Trump just as much or more.

So far, I have not seen any allegations about Hunter falsifying business records. He probably filed an incorrect tax return, but that way less of a crime than keeping separate business records, for taxes and loans. Trump even created records for business loans that didn't exist. That's all criminal fraud and Trump is lucky to only be held accountable in civil court.
By #709631 28,Feb,24 03:16
You have to understand I am educated but what makes it harder to debate like this for you is that I've learned to be objective, centered with a common frame of reference. I am not perfect. I make mistakes but I don't consider my mistakes to be failures. I'm always learning.

I have my Batchlors degree is radiological sciences with a minor in humanities. So I understand physics, mathematics, logic and critical reasoning. When I formulate a hypothesis I don't say a word without investigating. I don't just say I'm right you are wrong, and your assumptions are baseless.

Make no mistake before I say a word I make sure with research then I form evidence to support my synopsis. You misunderstand me but I suppose most do. I just don't rely on journalism with links, jerry springer and collecting the most followers. If a politician gets more people to follow him he was the most convincing but it by no means he is the most right.

What do I mean right? Logic may have something to do with it but here in this case logic is not the determinant. You need a common frame of reference to understand one side of another. Further when you know critical reasoning well you can tell who is lying and who is speaking the truth. It does require talent and I do mean this empathically. The nation is the heart of its people. I can tell when someone is composing. What do I mean by that? How you express from the heart. Leadership demands that. Not just by reading a book. You won't learn it that way. Reading the book may make it even more difficult sometimes but when topics require reasoning from what you feel is right it doesn't necessarily mean logic is the answer. Chances are it isn't. Sometimes yes usually no.

A good leader speaks the truth, he motivates, and he tries bonding with the people of a nation. Whether its a country or a group. Say sporting team or family members. He tries keeping everyone together as one so we can succeed as a nation. When he is in front of his nation he is composing. This is the best way. Not everyone has it.

A leader is the next step up from the politician. A leader leads. He creates a path for success, and he needs everyone's help. He provides inspiration. He preaches Love each other and stand up and be proud who you are and what you represent. Don't hate. Don't show anger. Hate, anger weakens you. It always does. Believe in yourselves. He needs everyone.

A politician is a sales man trying to convince you to trust giving him the power to choose the path for the country. How he will use your tax dollars to do what he wants. A leader knows power comes with a responsibility. While a liar fools you into giving him power so he can take advantage.. But he does it in a way convincing you the other man is the bad guy. convincing you he is incompetent. The PROBLEM WITH HIM is that he is just as incompetent for example Joe Biden. Total incompetence but he tries to convince you he knows what he is doing and Donald trump is the bad guy.but I've seen everything I need to know.

If you want to debate me you are welcomed to say I am wrong. Welcome to challenge my choices. BUT don't you ever take an opposition without supporting your claim with evidence to verify your outcomes. Just to say I'm baseless, dumb with noing added to support then it shows your level of education. Its amateur and flimsy I don't want it to be like that. I want us to work things out but it will never work if it is not done correctly. So far Im still waiting your evidence to support. That's my question to you So far you've demonstrated absolutely nothing as to why socialism is better than democracy.

When you learn humanities which you haven't. You make observations, you form a hypothesis, you gather data, you use your education and experience with the data collected to come to a conclusion. If done correctly you reach the level of being sound.

So far up to this point all I heard from you is what Trump did and he is guilty. I laugh at this. You've spoken nothing

You claim socialism is the best way but you have yet to prove to me why it is better than democracy. Not ONE THING OR EXAMPLE.. You just don't have a case or validation on anything. Let's see what you can do from here. Remember the world is watching
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 16:25 other posts 
There is so much in this post that I agree with, that it is very strange how much we constantly disagree.

A Bachelors degree in radiological sciences should give you a good basis in the scientific method. You need to make an assessment in what you observe and not on prejudices. It is however possible that you make your assessments very much automatically, based on your knowledge, without really thinking about it. When you do things so often, it becomes second nature, instead of a conscious process.

My bachelor’s degree in biotechnology is only the basis of my familiarity with the scientific method. My current job is based on 10 years of practical experience in bio-process production and 10 years of experience in facilitating that process and my former colleagues on the fields of innovation (new products, new processes, new systems, new technological advancements like big data and AI, new collaboration standards), investigating and solving quality and safety issues, designing or cooperating in designing process equipment and safety tools, writing protocols, doing feasibility studies, writing reports, editing quality standards and procedures, editing process instructions and documentation and training people. Everything I do needs to be discussed with specialists in their field and supervisors of different departments. All of them have different responsibilities and priorities, but everyone works under the same standards for safety, quality, efficiency, transparency and rationality. There are many differences of opinion to solve in every issue or project, but the arguments are based on facts and reasoning. Anyone who uses arguments based on trust, gut feelings, personal attacks, claiming that something is obvious or routine, will have a weak case in supporting their position. These discussions don’t have the goal of being right, but of coming to the best decision. I find my arguments to be very productive to that end result. Often the discussion results in the plan that I started the meeting with, but I work with very smart people who often improve upon what I planned. Sometimes they have a brilliant idea that I immediately adapt and incorporate in the plan. Likewise, my colleagues come to me for improving their plans. That’s how good decisions are made. Then we have a plan, but the next challenge is to justify the plan to the quality department. They require completely different arguments; it’s not based on why the plan is the most efficient and effective, they want justification that we are allowed to do it. They want evidence that all the standards are maintained and the process still delivers the same product. All of that is based on the scientific method.
I have been in the position to follow many courses, payed for by my employer. They range from general continuous innovation (lean), very early in my employment, to process excellence (six sigma), root cause analysis and analysis based problem solving, planning techniques, a specific cooperation methodology, EHS&S intermediate certificate, and Certified Ergonomist.

I agree, a good leader speaks the truth. And when they do, they are transparent and consistent. They do not evade answering questions, they do not have weak excuses and the do not make one claim now and a completely different contradictory claim later.
Still, I have a problem with leaders in the first place. No people get humanity or smaller organization into trouble like leaders. I’ve seen it during my career all the time; no people violate our principles and standards as much as our leaders. No people make decisions on intuition and lacking deliberation as much as leaders. No people take less responsibility for their actions than leaders. If they were employees, they would get very low appraisal or get fired. They certainly have talents, but they higher they are the worse their decisions are.

I think politics in my own country sucks, but yours has been declining to the lowest level. If you understand how smart, organized, dedicated people can cooperate to come to the best solution, like I do, politics (especially yours) looks like a bunch of children bickering over marbles, while the bullies steal all of them.

While working in an incredibly capitalist market, big pharma, I developed my principles that are the basis of my socialism. That’s because in my company cooperation is very important, but also because I see how much profit is made from selling incredibly expensive medicines to people who really need them. These profits go to people who have not contributed to the company I work for in the least. They are just wealthy families who breed insufferably spoiled children, with a bad case of entitlement and distain for the lower class, who just hire some professionals to do their bidding and maximize profits for them. At least our wealthy spoiled brats have a long-term profit strategy, which makes working for them bearable. I don’t have a choice but to work under a capitalist system, so I make the best of it, but I would support my market sector being socialized wholeheartedly. When the system doesn’t have to enrich a bunch of useless selfish people, the medicines can be much cheaper.

When you want my arguments for why socialism is better than democracy, you don’t understand either. Socialism is the extreme version of democracy. Instead of getting to vote on some people controlling politics and working for people who you cannot vote for at all, I support democratizing everything. No more people who have all the money to bribe politicians to do their bidding, but sharing the ownership of our working places and having direct democratic control over how humanity utilizes the public capital. Maybe you would understand it better, if we don’t call it ‘socialism’ and ‘social capitalism’ would be more to your liking.
I have been getting personally involved in politics for a while now. As an active member in the Socialist Party, I have direct democratic influence in voting for our representatives, drawing up the party principles and election manifestos. The Socialist Party in The Netherlands is the most democratic party of all, and we have a lot of them. Meanwhile, several political organizations who have seats in our house and senate are not even officially political parties. They don’t have members and their funding is not transparent. The are basically lobby organizations. But somehow you have been convinced that socialism is the opposite from democracy and I don’t think any argument can change your opinion.
By #709631 28,Feb,24 18:56
I don't agree with your definition of socialism . I understand it greatly what is and why it results are. I'm approaching my elderly years of experience the difference between socialism and democracy and the results of both as time shows. you have had 6000 years to probe history to find any evidence of how society as a whole has benefitted over the coarse of time other than being in corruption resulting in death...

Name one society under socialism within the last 6000 years has flourished? YOu still have no answered or even acknowledged this.

Politics destroys countries eventually. Its proven through time and I don't give a shit what they say. Politics will destroy us. You say my country is declining. Indeed but it never was a country to begin with. Oh the constitution and bill of rights show that this is a country for the people. But its not.

Leadership is based on 2 things. Transparency and the desire to get rid of politics. To not only survive but to thrive. Politics destroys, Moral transparency thrives. For us as a species we are not ready as a whole to understand this idea of growth of a nation. It's not just for the people as a whole but when you understand the molecular structure it comes down to the person. There education is just so important. For personal independence by the utilization of resources not only for a singularity but with each other.

As a species we are not ready to grow because of politics and corruption. Over the course of time in our history we have learned to destroy more than what we have created which is absolutely nothing. To be thankful what we have is ignored with the notion of wanting more. even if it means to destroy others. Our species is doomed along with any other living organism on earth. There is still time but it is dwindling.

Biotechnology is interesting. I'd like to learn more about it. If you experienced in understanding mathematical functions with sequences and series you can uae probability to plot through statistics where our species is headed. The human being is the only known organism that is egoist. It is the only organism that kills for no reason. Anti Darwin murder. This is where we are headed. Socialism is NOT the answer and it never has proven its worthiness..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 11:42 other posts 
You don't agree with my definition of socialism?

I'm the socialist here, member of the Socialist Party.
I define socialism exactly the same way my party defines it
and what constitutes their body of principles.

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How the hell do you define 'politics'?
"Politics will destroy us"?
Politics is just the activity that politicians do.
Politicians should be our representatives. Voters voted for them.
We do that, because civilization needs to be organized to function and
democracy is the best form of organization we invented to do that.

I would say that political corruption is this: politicians serving their own selfish goals, instead of representing their voters. How would you define corruption?

Just because your politics is completely corrupt doesn't means it's that corrupt everywhere. Our votes still matter. Our political parties are all very different from each other. When political parties get enough votes and find other parties they can cooperate with, they actually work together and find compromises between all the different issues that they promised to work for, for their voters. That's how you organize a democratic country; a mixture of the most popular opinions of the citizens shaping the policies that affect them.

The problem of our species is that we are growing, in numbers.
We are like locusts eating everything in our path, leaving a wasteland.
That's why we better grow the fuck up, before we destroy ourselves.

Did you just answer one of my previous questions?
"solidarity vs selfishness. Which is right, which is wrong?"

Humanity pulled itself away from survival of the fittest. We can never go back.
The only way we survive is now outgrowing our residual brutal nature.
That's only achievable by maximum cooperation.
That's what socialism means to me and what my party propagates.
Capitalism is maximizing selfish interests. It's destroying humanity.
By #709631 28,Feb,24 21:27
First time I've heard you give impressive detail on analysis. Based on experience you create a hypothesis, study it further then come to a conclusion based on analysis. Easy. If your analysis is consistent with your hypothesis it forms a theory. If you can't find anything to counter and the research reaches purity then the hypothesis is a sound argument. It can't be disputed. It becomes the norm and fact based on ethical and moral law. Pure truth.

I just find it so hard to understand why liberals believe left wing progressives when they lie all the time, slander and don't come up with a plan that would productive for citizens on a nation. They won't tell you. All they do is blame without solution. The fake news is used to target groups that are angry, they don't take responsibility for their actions in order to reason properly. Why do you think education is heavily controlled left wing districts are so weak in that? They don't want you to reason or think with clarity. They want you to hate and blame the other guy no matter what evidence is shown. The "politicians" use race card theory to divert attentions on key issues. Why do they do it? Easy they do it not for the nation- they do it for themselves. I do not define leadership that way. This is politics. They do not teach you how to use logic and your feelings in finding solution. There is a saying that the hand, the mind and the heart when joined together they create perfect harmony.. I agree with this statement. The left wing makes sure that joining does not occur.

Here is a link that gives my true definition of a country. Comparing good and evil. This to me is a country. A country that to this day does not exist.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 12:47 other posts 
You are telling me that I need to study my hypothesize further to come to a conclusion of truth, and then you present your second paragraph?
My god man, that's the fever dream of a mental patient.
Half of it is projection and the other half is nonsense.
I do not even know where to begin. One thing is; present your evidence!
It's full of claims, but lacking in facts. I am sure you think it's all facts, but that's only because you have been told this over and over.

I will look at your link later. My definition of a country is just a piece of the earth, controlled by a unified government, separated from other piece of the earth, controlled by a unified government, based on conflicts and eventual agreements between those governments. I see absolutely no morality associated with the meaning of a country, other than that agreements between countries stabilize the conflicts over places to live for people.
By #709631 28,Feb,24 21:47
Germany was considered monsters, extermination of Jews, Gypsies. homosexuals and other political prisoners that did not agree with their ideology of which were deemed as a threat. Extermination by which of the final solution. When I saw this skillful argument of the defense there was truth in this. The true enemy of this terrible evil is civilization. He gives examples and his hypothesis forms into theory. My opinion on what he says is sound.
But looking at a logical perspective is not always the correct way of looking at. No. It comes down to a single human being with the atomic structure all the way to the top. Leaders are given power with trust. Trust is so important, or the nation cannot survive in harmony. There is not one instance where power comes with responsibility. The more powerful you are in essence requires equal responsibility of doing the right thing.
To me this is learning. Analysis of moral versus political correctness.
Here...it shows germany's guilt is the worlds guilt. There is truth here.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 12:30 other posts 
Do I understand here that you agree with Hitler?
And now you have found a guy with the same atomic structure in Trump?
And that he's the type of leader you think will save humanity?

Tell me if I'm summarizing incorrectly.
By #709631 29,Feb,24 21:45
In the city of UR 6000 years ago can you imagine they had a drug store, a library and a school? The first known city or town in history? They cane up with the idea.

You can call socialism anyting you want. Simply put and you can use 1000 ways, socialism is not as bad as communism. Whether or not I agree with that is one thing. Bad is bad by any other name. Controlling people by politicians is bad. How the fuck can you pay someone to watch the border and protect our country where he tells you either you do it my way or I will kill you or go to jail or both? Doesn't make any sense but to you it does.

With people as in control it is required to be educated in order to function in a society. So society functions with longevity and positive growth. Nothing is free and nobody owes anybody anything. Nobody owns anybody. If someone gives to you because they love you that's ok. If you want to work to pay your debts definately encouraged. Everybody has a fair shake. Government works for you,, period. This is the best way to put it. Civilization as long as there is socialism, communism, suppression and brainwashing you will never ever persevere. BY ANY OTHER NAME socialism existed in one form or another. The government that steals from you.Since you live in Europe they really do **** your ass raw as a bitch. I know they do

Easy.. Just you change the name and say its better than communism. But russia was a socialistic communism. It just does not work. Oh, it will work for the criminal, no doubt,, but not for growth of the country as a whole.

Not one thing you have said to me has swayed the value of this injunction. It is not meant to build; it is to destroy by the unmoral abuse of power for immediate gratification of the controller. Simple. If you don't agree with me and come to the conclusion, I'm wrong as you are right? What can I do about it. I can't do anything.
By #709631 20,Feb,24 16:53
Who'd you hear that one from? Your mother?
By phart [Ignore] 20,Feb,24 21:21 other posts 
No , my mother never took time to teach me anything about politics ,was to busy beating me and trying to starve me to death. Why do you ask? do you disagree with what I said?
By #709631 20,Feb,24 23:30
so sorry. that was not meant for you. I'm also sorry for your trauma. I know the feeling
Some lefty YouTube channel made fun of it. I cannot remember which one.
Have you donated yet?
By phart [Ignore] 21,Feb,24 18:54 other posts 
My first "donation" will be on March 5th for the primary when I vote for him to be the Republican candidate.
My next "donation" will be my vote for him on election day.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 15:33 other posts 
That won't save his business that he's going to lose for being a fraud.
You're obviously not a true believer, if you don't fall for his scams,
like donating to 'Save America' which only pays for Trump's personal lawsuits
or buy his NFT digital trading cards with pictures of Trump as superhero's
or buying a piece of his suit or maybe next a used condom with his cum inside
and the grool of a porn-star on the outside. I know you crave it.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 07:32 other posts 
he won't loose his bussiness. it may take a hard hit but he won't loose it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 13:05 other posts 
If he files for bankruptcy, then he has lost his business.
Bankruptcy cannot save him from having to pay the fines, but after they confiscated and sold all his assets, it's possible that the mortgages and other debts far overshadow what's left of his assets.

Trump calls himself a billionaire, but he has overstated the value of his assets constantly, so he might just be a multi-millionaire. When his fines are multi millions, he might not have anything left, at the end.
By #709631 21,Feb,24 22:04
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Jim biden's testimony. This is going to knock you out..

Don't believe me woot NYC/ Here ya go..

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 15:44 other posts 
Well, I'm awaiting the impeachment. Must be easy with that evidence.

Actually, James Biden testified that Joe Biden was not involved in anything
related to Hunter's nice cushy job. Sure, it's nepotism, but you love that. Trump filled his administration with family, is forcing his daughter-in-law as the chair of the RNC and he is very likely picking one of his sons or his daughter for his running mate. Yeah, nepotism! (Banana Republicans)


Meanwhile, your FBI informant Vladimir Alexeyevich Smirnov, was proven to be a liar.
He’s charged with falsely reporting to the FBI in June 2020 that executives associated with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid Hunter and the president $5m each in 2015 or 2016. The claim has been central to the Republican impeachment inquiry in Congress. During an interview before his arrest last week, Smirnov admitted that “officials associated with Russian intelligence were involved in passing a story” about Hunter. Smirnov is behind bars while he awaits trial.
By #709631 22,Feb,24 18:00
Major corporations are pulling out of NY state due to this and the property taxes just went up 40%. They are coming to Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma. Ny State will lose its electral college weight. BUT since the truckers refuse to go to NY there is no way of Connecticut, RI, Massachusetts , Vermont, NH, or Maine either. All is liberal controlled. This is a major protest worse than the Boston Tea Party back in the 18th century. No food for illegal immigrants. No medicine.
BANK RECORDS SHOW BIDEN"S GUILTY INTENTIONS>

They won't impeach him. The senate won't vote for it. Unless they can get democrats to vote. If they vote Pelosi will cut them off financially.

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By Gntlmn [Ignore] 22,Feb,24 23:29 other posts 
electral...
Those property taxes went up last year, but please show how they 'just' went up,
as a result of Trump's penalty.

Funny video though. True, an investor who thinks that Trump committed no fraud, would not want to go to New York now, because they would be scared to get caught for their fraud. Funny how you all say New York is crime infested, but you want them to not catch criminals like that guy. Defrauding the American system for millions upon millions is more damaging to society than a couple of drugs dealers.
But, because white board criminals dress nice, you respect them.

How will NY State lose its electoral college weight? You think that many New Yorkers will vacate the area for poor little Trump being 'treated unfairly'. New York is a safe blue state. For every Banana Republican voter leaving, several Democratic voters fleeing MAGA lunacy, will take their place.

Republicans won't even hold a vote to impeach Biden, because they don't even have a majority for it in the Republican controlled House. Because whatever pretend evidence they had before, has all evaporated one by one. Now even their star-witness is proven to be a Russian agent. The investigation can start now, on how long Republican lawmakers knew about that and chose to lie about that.
That's a good reason for impeachment, for every Republican involved.
Of course, I understand that no Republican will ever vote to impeach one of their co-conspirators. They won't lose their funding, they would lose their lives.
Trump would figuratively paint a giant bullseye on their backs.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Feb,24 07:34 other posts 
It may be a case of time, evaluations are done a year in advance of actually receiving the bill.
Or at least that is the way it is here, they just doubled property values in our county in january. In november the bills will come in. so there is a year essentially between the value increase and the bill.
It's a hell of a shock to look at last years value and see it this year and it literally double within 3000 bucks.
By #709631 23,Feb,24 18:02
No victim no crime. NYC has empty shelves because of excremented mouths from people like you. I heard chicago, Philadelpha, Baltimore and the entire west coast is starting to suffer from your mouth of stupidity. Missouri has sent it national guard to Texas to fight on the border because of YOUR POLICIES... That's right, YOURS.
California, New York? No trucker wants to go there because of regulations and gas prices. And why would they. Less stupid egoistic people to worry about. I definitely see a Major reckoning starting to unfold. It's us against stupid egoism and ignorance against people just like you.
Your anti-constitutional stupidly is worse since you don't even belong here. Europe is suffering from increased crime and famine. Oh your lying bullshit media hasn't mentioned it but they know its true. What's even worse is that they do not care. You do not care. That's because you are stupid that's why. You are defending your own enemy. What a total waste of excrement.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Feb,24 11:05 other posts 
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There are indeed many articles that claim that truckers are willing to block New York, but nothing is coming from it as of yet. A storm in a glass of water.
If you think that New York is having any trouble from Trump's penalty, show me an article with empty shelves or traffic jams from truck blockades.

Tax-fraud is a crime and the victim is the tax-payer; YOU.
When you do tax-fraud, you go to jail. So why not Trump?

I do agree with the concept that acts are not a crime, when there is no victim.
This is not the case for fraud. It's against the law, because there are victims.
Fraud is criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
It is by its nature to the detriment of other people or entities,
otherwise the criminal deception wouldn't be necessary.

Explain what is my 'anti-constitutional stupidly'. How is Trump being indicted for his decades of tax-fraud anti-constitutional?

Whatever happens on your border, are your policies. I didn't get to vote in your elections. By the way, at the moment, the border is reported to be pretty quiet at the moment, even by Republicans. They traveled to several border towns, expecting mayhem, but being very disappointed. It will pick up in the spring though, like every year, because then illegals are crossing the border again to their farm and construction jobs. If you want to stop that, crack down on the employers who provide the illegals with jobs.

Your party had a chance to enact the harshest anti-immigration policies ever.
You would love the things that Biden would have agreed upon, but Republicans blocked it, because Trump wants to run on immigration and doesn't want to give Biden a win. That's a missed opportunity and bad strategy for you, because you can be sure that Biden will use that for the election now. And if he wins again, he doesn't need to do anything you like anymore.

Sure, you make up complete bullshit and then say my media doesn't talk about it. Well, show me your sources then. I bet that even if you find something to support your narrative, it's vague as shit and absolutely unverifiable.
That's what your lying media does. And when they get sued for lying, they say:
"It's just an opinion, we are not a news media.".

Also, when poverty and crime is going up in Europe, then who did that?
All over Europe right-wing populism is taking control. My own country has been governed by our most right-wing corporate party for 12 years. Before that, the last left majority ended in 2002. Now we have 3 right-wing parties and one center-right party trying to form a cabinet. That's not my politics!
You know so little, it's really silly and very sad.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Feb,24 14:58 other posts 
How did Trump affect me with his values placed on property? You say it did but HOW? The county and city decide what something is worth and tax accordingly.
When going to the bank to get a loan. Trump says 1 value, the bank says, BULL, and doesn't loan him the amount he ask for.Read the testimony of 1 of the bankers, he said they did it.
If the bank agrees to loan the money , they are the 1's taking a risk,NOT the taxpayer.
The city and county,if they don't value the property as high, that is their own damn fault.
NOT the taxpayers.
By #709631 27,Feb,24 18:20
What the fuck are you talking about?
By phart [Ignore] 27,Feb,24 23:07 other posts 
Trump supporter, I am asking anannas to explain how Trump claiming his property is worth more than the county or whatever says affects others, when all his debts on it were paid and it is all water under the bridge.
By #709631 28,Feb,24 01:02
Thank you. If Trump cheated the banks the banks would have said so and given numbers to verify this. Instead the banks claimed that there was no misrepresentation and he paid them promptly and on time. No foul.

I really don't know what else to add except the attorny general is either wrong or lying. The judge who admitted many times as to how much he hated him.

The idea here is to get Trump out of the election. Colorado tried it but the truckers boycotted and they held back. Maine tried it but failed. Here in this instance there was no way to lose but now NYS shelves are empty because of over 20% of the trucks are refusing service the same way they did to colorable Colorado gave in at 10% lesa trucks. NY is 20% or greater not just because this but because or regulations. Nobody wants to go to California.

They tried lying with 3 impeachment hoaxes and now trying to get him off the ballot. Bow the blacks can see this and Biden is losing the black vote. I'm not saying more blacks are not voting for him than Biden but its diluted as compared to 2020.

Billionaires are no longer investing in NY anymore. They claim that if they did it to trump it will happen to them. The Governor said she would not but they refuse to trust her. And why would they where they can always take their business elsewhere. They have pulled out. Business continue to leave. NY is now bankrupt. No supplies, deteriorating roads, over 110 million rats are infesting subways. People are leaving.
It affects others, because what you are saying is not what he was accused of.
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Trump was submitting blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements, lowering the value of his assets with the purpose of reducing his tax-rates and massively overvaluing his assets in order to borrow more and at lower rates. That's fraud.

I might be a little bit sensitive when people say fraud is not a crime.
In my country, tens of thousands of people had their lives destroyed by our government, because they were accused of childcare benefits fraud. After years of obstruction, the investigation has uncovered that only in a tiny number of cases actual fraud had been committed. In most of the cases a tiny mistake, worth almost nothing, was enough to be convicted of fraud, without any fair legal process. Many people didn't even make a mistake themselves, but were flagged as fraudster for using childcare services that had been identified as fraudulent. Anything like that resulted in the government cracking down on them with massive fines and being forced to pay back all the benefits they ever received. Their assets were confiscated, leaving them without their homes and/or with massive debts. When their lives got messed up, many of them were unable to take care of their children. Many of them released care of their children to child protection. Then the were fucked again, getting treated exactly the same as people who have their children forcibly taken away. It took many years, but eventually, our cabinet resigned over that scandal. Only two political entities fought for those people all along; my Socialist Party and Pieter Omtzigt from the Christian Democratic Appeal, who has been attacked for it by his own party. I personally know a family who has been devastated by the childcare benefits affair. It was brutal what they did to them.
That's what happens when normal people get accused of fraud.

Normally wealthy people get away with it. They steal millions or billions from the tax-payer and never get caught, while the average people get destroyed over a small mistake or not even that. I like how they got Trump on it. He has been a crook all his life, stealing from the less powerful. This is his comeuppance.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:06 other posts 
ananas, Tax value is not determined by the owner. I don't know where you get that from but the owner only has the option to appeal a tax increase and it is more difficult to fight than you think.
If New york says his property is worth 2 million, and he says it's worth 10 million, and the bank loans by what THEY think it is worth at 5 million, then where the hell is the problem???
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:10 other posts 
You used that same argument many times by now. You and I do not determine the value of our assets, but the rich have many ways to scam that process.

Where the hell is the problem? Read the rest.

By the way, Trumps monitor has most likely uncover even more fraud, where Trump created fake loans to avoid paying taxes over millions of dollars.
I hope they are not done completely squeezing the filthy crook.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:15 other posts 
please read the link I posted. And PLEASE, Share some of these methods of scamming the process, as everyone in the county i live including myself would like to know as our tax values were DOUBLED just last month.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:09 other posts 
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"A property’s assessment is based on its market
value. Market value is how much a property would
sell for under normal conditions. Assessments are
determined by the assessor, a local official who
independently estimates the value of real property
for a city, town, or village.
The assessor can estimate the market value
of property based on the sale prices of similar
properties. A property can also be valued based on
the cost of materials and labor required to replace
it, minus depreciation. Commercial property may be
valued on its potential to produce rental income for
its owners."

NOW let me outline this for you
Read this again.
"Assessments are
determined by the assessor, a local official who
independently estimates the value of real property
for a city, town, or village."

It does not say the owner, or the bank or the dog catcher determines the value of property, a ASSESSOR does this.
A person hired to determine value of property.
It would seem if New York feels they have been shit out of some money , the assessor they hired has failed at his or her or it's job.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:14 other posts 
I know, and it's moot. Save yourself the trouble.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 10:16 other posts 
Why is it moot? They claim Trump lied about the value of his land and buildings when in fact it is blatantly clear he has little say in the tax value of his property.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 16:40 other posts 
You think it's just coincidences that all those valuations are in his favor. When he's paying taxes on those values, his properties are worth almost nothing, but when he needs assets to back a loan, then they are all of a sudden worth 100 times more. Sure and Harry Potter lives next door to me.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Feb,24 20:09 other posts 
Oh so now you are suggesting a conspiracy? Why is it ok for you to do that? Any time we conservitives suggjest something underhanded being done by a democrat ,the liberals whine and boo hoo and say it aint so.
Show me the person fixing those values.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 13:27 other posts 
No, that's not a conspiracy, know your definitions.
Exactly like you said, and is explained in your link, which is the same or similar to links I've posted myself before; assessors determine the value of the assets of a company. Still, the assessors use documentation provided by the owner or company to base the value on.

If the company provides documents with falsified data on square footage of the property, totally incorrect data on income and expenses, concealed facts about local government restrictions on the business opportunities of the property, than the assessor determines an incorrect value for the property. That's not the responsibility of the assessor, that's the responsibility of the company to provide correct and accurate facts. Some stupid disclaimer doesn't absolve a company from that responsibility. That's the law! Read the fucking verdict.
By phart [Ignore] 29,Feb,24 15:30 other posts 
I don't know where you get the assessor uses documents from the owner.
The assessor that works this county, either uses google earth to measure the size and type of structures, and resale values of nearby and similar property's, OR they come out and physically examine and measure the house and outbuildings. I feel sure in a place like new york the building inspection department has the plans to all of the buildings so size,type and so on are easy to get,plus they would use resale value of nearby structures.
Banks, of course use the same information but also they use a persons credit rating and other types of collateral that may be used to secure the loan.


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