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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 14,Sep,20 02:27  other posts
Protests (peaceful that is) are ok, but kneeling before the American Flag???That is a disgrace and dishonor...Why do many want to dishonor our American Vets...Yes, I admit this is a free Country, so feel free overpaid athletes to disrespect it if that is how you feel...There are other ways to protest is all that I am trying to get across...Saddens me to see people kneeling before the Nations Flag while the National Anthem is playing...Actually, tearful... ༼☯﹏☯༽
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By CAT-2 [Ignore] 23,Nov,20 10:54 other posts 
I have to apologise to @strongmember@. I just saw a response that was supposed to be in another thread. I've got to start reading my copy/paste entries.


By #592419 19,Nov,20 08:16
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By phart [Ignore] 19,Nov,20 12:20 other posts 
I had never heard of that office until suddenly Biden appeared on the tv with the logo behind him.I guess he is so "ready" to get to work he created it?
By #551147 19,Nov,20 17:02
Hell if I know, don't ask me!

That's why I'm in search of that mythical place...
Shouldn't that flag be at half mast?
No matter if you believe Trump or not, your democracy is going through a rough time.
Not really your proudest moment.
By #551147 20,Nov,20 09:25
I don't know about that half mast part.

But I'll certainly agree with the rest of your drivel, for once. Where the disagreement will come in, is as to who's to blame. 😠

For now, I'm not interested in pursuing the finger pointing.
You'll say and I'll say, they will be opposites, blah blah blah.

I'll be content with the agreement for a change.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Nov,20 11:03 other posts  ⤴
If you read down this thread I ask about that.Our country is in deep distress and no one seems to give 1 flying damn about it. JOe says he wants to unite,while his followers burn and loot.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Nov,20 17:11 other posts 
Your right, it's not only your democracy that has a problem.

However, either the democrats committed the worst crime against democracy ever or you have a president who made all of it up, with the intention to have his base steal the election for him. This is democracy at the level of Ukraine.
By #592419 20,Nov,20 18:35⤴
I have nothing to do with it. I voted responsibly. I'm a proud American that stands for our constitution.. There is now evidence that the deep state created an algorithm in Michigan and Pennsylvania where Biden's vote was counted as 1.25 votes while trump only counted as 3/4 of a vote. EVEN WITH THAT Trump was up by 400000 in PA while 250000 in MI. Biden campaign realized it wasn't going to work especially after badly losing in Florida and Ohio.. Trump was cruising to victory and out of desperation they stopped the counting. During the night they flooded the polls with fake ballots including dead people, and people that voted in other states. The evidence IS THERE while the affidavits of witnesses testifying under oath with the threat of perjury are consistent with the accusations the lawyers are charging...The evidence continues to mount. They gave their opening statements before submitting to the courts.
I know what America Stands for which is FREEDOM, TRUTH, JUSTICE and the value of a SINGLE human being. The left is by law American but not by the heart.
Freedom is NOT FREE... It has to be earned. If there is truth in Europe you were fucked royally...England voted for brexit but they are not going quietly. If Trump wins your country wins. The deep state falls.
By #592419 20,Nov,20 19:55⤴
Democracy has never been achieved. Its the limit which in logical form is infinity but so is God..The motto of New York State is "Ever Upward" Meaning the desire to reach God through Unity. Hence the United States. As long as humans have egoism and selfishness democracy is never achieved. Yes Trump is rich and he was establishment that took advange of legal tax codes when he was a citizen..Now his true goal is to find God. You can't say he wants money because he already has it! Power is a no go because he already has the highest power in the world. When he promised to enhance our national sovereignty I was sold and voted for the first time. He has not disappointed me since then. He's trying. Imagine, he is doing all these things while the deep state has impeached him twice while of Russian collusion of which he was innocent. Anyone else would have quit. He promised to protect the only free country in the middle east, Israel. Europe let all the Muslims in your continent at the cost of your hard work.. I don't understand your analysis.
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 21,Nov,20 17:31 other posts 
True that democracy is still a work in progress working towards an ideal. I won't speak on the other member's behalf but it should be concerning to all of us if we discover the US election can be be cheated like this. Where do we go from here for next time?

Re: Trump, I think that is an optimistic description of his intentions. I believe one could also look at some pessimistic explanations for his behavior as well fairly easily. As for money, there is this phenomenon whereby many very wealthy people still seem to want to be more wealthy. As for power, he does hold the highest position, yes, but if he is not re-elected he gets downgraded which could be a reason to want that to not change. If his true goal is really just to find God I do not know. I see that evangelical Christians are a strong source of his support so it is difficult to say whether he is being sincere with his Christian talk or pandering to a key part of his electorate.
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Oh.. I forgot to include this question. If Trump holds the most power in the world then how could Deep State be more powerful if it exists. Or do you feel like it is a battle between the two most powerful people/entities, Trump and Deep State. It just seems unclear how Deep State let him into office but then sabotaged him and this time may have succeeded in getting him out. It is unclear to me who has the most power then.
By #592419 22,Nov,20 13:14
The deep state as you put it is the glabalist global regime that does own TV, Radio and social medias. Their job is to inflict as much propaganda as possible.. You haven't been listening to Guilliani and Sidney powel I bet.. This race is far from over and as a matter of fact it's over,,, but not the same result as you hoped.. January 20th 2021 12:01PM Donald Trump will be sworn in for his 2nd term of the United States.
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 23,Nov,20 07:33 other posts 
I have unfortunately listened to that duo making the circuit, making many allegations. Funny where Guilliani is in life. He used to be a controversial mayor that some say helped clean up Manhattan. I also remember going to raves at age 18 where people shouted 'Fuck Guilliani'.. probably for shutting down parties or something. There are actually many news outlets globally, many part of totally different companies, and while most have editorial pages, they are not all singular in voice, nor would that many have a rational financial reason to propagandize. Newscorp is different from NBC. Facebook stands alone. Many reputable newspapers from around the globe are available as well for reading. And clearly many people are hearing the allegations of fraud so the message is not lost. So far, however, it seems that while prolific with tongue slinging allegations from a bottomless well, the legal teams have not identified sufficient compelling evidence to cause any major turnabouts, and only won a few motions for recounts and such so far. So is the Deep State run by a powerful kabal? Did they pull the strings of Media to let Trump in, now he is on the outs?


By CAT-2 [Ignore] 17,Nov,20 17:26 other posts 
What's the matter, Bella! you can't face me direct? Come on, bitch. Show yourself. Don't hide behind your other account, SKITTLES


By phart [Ignore] 12,Nov,20 09:32 other posts 
I am starting to wonder,since the democrats have stolen the election, if it would no longer be desecration to fly our flags upside down? I mean,shortly after his term starts,our country will be in danger of economic crash and lack of security because of defunding the police,lives will be in danger.


Flying a U.S. flag upside down
Displaying a U.S. flag upside down is "a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property". It can also be viewed as an act of desecration.
By #551147 12,Nov,20 15:34
This thread is on the way to being moot.

If it is proven and the dumbass is certified as the winner, they will get rid of the national anthem.

It IS racist afterall, or did you conveniently forget that...
By phart [Ignore] 12,Nov,20 16:25 other posts 
I intend to not pay any attention to the liberal bullshit.IF I hear another song played for the flag and I am expected to stand with my hand on my heart for it,I wont'.Star spangled banner is our anthem.
Not Kumbayah or teach the world to sing like obummer wanted.
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 13,Nov,20 00:47 other posts 
I respect your first amendment Sir.
By tecsan [Ignore] 13,Nov,20 02:46 other posts  ⤴
Tell me how the national anthem is racist...Make it good...༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 13,Nov,20 03:07 other posts 
I think @scorps was being facetious
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 17,Nov,20 17:14 other posts  ⤴
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


By tecsan [Ignore] 17,Nov,20 05:44 other posts 
I just say go ahead and kneel before the flag during the National Anthem...If you hate our country that much I can point you you in the direction of the border...Doubt they would welcome you...Hell would cost me a others to to bring your ass back for prosecution...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 17,Nov,20 07:24 other posts 
For doing something that is lawful?


By tecsan [Ignore] 31,Oct,20 01:30 other posts 
My guess is that about half here agree with disgracing America...༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 01,Nov,20 01:56 other posts 
Fair estimate. Seems people are set on there sides. I think I threw some words in earlier I cannot find anymore. I respectfully take the opposition view.
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Nov,20 00:40 other posts 
What do you mean???༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 02,Nov,20 00:46 other posts 
I mean nobody is changing their mind. I feel like athletes choosing to protest are exercising the power they have earned with their status to try to make changes in the world as they see fit. I think there has been an overfocus on the national anthem choice and arguing that is disrespectful to veterans. I do not think those people intended any disrespect for veterans, maybe some have family who are veterans. By being overly sensitive to the perceived offense, we miss what they wanted to tell us.
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Nov,20 22:34 other posts 
They could simply stand and respect the country...However; they choose disrespect...They have one of the largest platforms in the world to protest...Why not doing an interview instead of self gratification...???༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 03,Nov,20 02:14 other posts 
The kneel arguably got more attention. Our first amendment allows for this expression. It is one of the greatest things about America, the freedom to express oneself that way. All day every day people argue and complain about our government. If his rationale was to generate change.. it was in America.. the country the athletes are from.. love.. but have some grievances with.
By #551147 03,Nov,20 03:40
Yeah...

You don't go fucking announcing your divorce at your kids birthday party. It's supposed to be a fun time, a uniting moment, not a time for airing grievances or attempting to kill the mood OR ruin someone else's day. WTF!

Baseball, Football, Basketball, Soccer games are for the enjoyment of ALL. Not festivus platforms! That's not even taking the disrespect into account.

So, SURE, it maybe ok and protected under the constitution, but does that mean it should be excersised?

ESPECIALLY now, knowing evertime you do it, your just being a complete asshole by being divisive towards those that you know don't approve.

They remain disrespectful, ignorant, hateful, overpaid, spoiled little princesses, and I hope they go broke from their unwarranted actions.

🇺🇸 Keep AMERICA Great - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇲
By Strongmember# [Ignore] 13,Nov,20 00:46 other posts 
Had people reacted differently it would not have gone viral as disrespectful. I suppose this type of debate goes back to Vietnam era. I really like the movie Born on the Fourth of July. Probably Tom Cruise's best performance, he acted the part of a soldier navigating between both his patriotism and strong associated feelings, and his eventual desire to protest. It doesn't need to be so polar.
By #551147 03,Nov,20 17:01⤴


By tecsan [Ignore] 12,Nov,20 01:46 other posts 
Kneel if you disrespect our Country and our Military currently serving...What a disgrace...༼☯﹏☯༽


By tecsan [Ignore] 12,Oct,20 23:11 other posts 
Really opened my eyes when the browns QB said he would kneel...Now he can go join kaepernick...Scum he is...Use a large audience to get your ignorant point out there...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 15,Oct,20 09:51 other posts 
Ignorant? If the teachers union of some large city did that, no one would have thought about it. But because Kilpatrick is black, you let your Nig@rs are only good dead or enslaved feelings out
By tecsan [Ignore] 17,Oct,20 02:30 other posts 
I will be nice...Whom is Kilpatrick???I said Kaepernick...But the fact is he used the nfl platform for his own propaganda...And many do know his name because of it...Sad he is no longer associated with the nfl and hell nike even abandoned this propaganda crap...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 17,Oct,20 08:21 other posts 
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And if he had taken a knee for the problems Vets face with Veteran’s Affairs you’d be cheering.
By tecsan [Ignore] 17,Oct,20 23:00 other posts 
Not if he did it during the National Anthem...That is disgraceful...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 18,Oct,20 15:40 other posts 
Well, obviously it worked. You may, sorry, you don’t like it but they got their message across. They won
By #460385 18,Oct,20 17:50
Really. Who won?
By phart [Ignore] 18,Oct,20 18:26 other posts 
Good question,who won and what did they win?
Doesn't look to me like they occomplished a damn thing but take fans away from the sports.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 18,Oct,20 20:05 other posts 
Phart, CC, get real. Denial doesn't work
By phart [Ignore] 18,Oct,20 20:30 other posts 
Denying what? No evidence to show anyone won anything.IF anything,they lost crediablity,and the sport is loosing fans-funds.
Now if you consider driving a wedge of division into the American public winning,perhaps you are right,as this shit has only divided people moreso.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 19,Oct,20 09:40 other posts 
Damn, phart is everything have to be spoon fed to you? Before the kneeling, there were the run of the mill demonstrations. The public was (still is) getting jaded. Ho hum one more demonstration. When they took a knee during the playing of the anthem, they created a huge reaction. Some pro, some against. Either way they brought the public to recognise that there's a lot of abuse of blacks by the police. That is a win for the BLM crowd.
Now tell me how this is horrible, disrespectful, unamerican and generally anti-poop. I know you will have some out of this world comment. Let's see.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 19,Oct,20 09:44 other posts  ⤴
countryCouple54 "won or lost" may be the wrong words. How about they were able to bring their displeasure with rougue cops to the eyes of the public. Right or wrong they jarred the public's mental stagnation. YOU describe it any way you want. The message is out.
By #460385 19,Oct,20 09:51
When are they gonna put the word out there on their own people. This happened a couple weeks ago. Did it make it on the news, did BLM post it on their website. Fuck no they didn't.
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By CAT-2 [Ignore] 19,Oct,20 10:02 other posts 
So what's your point? Does the other side (whatever that is)put out their fuck ups? For whatever reason, you are anti black. Ok. Now use your balls and stop hiding behind URLs and other things. You don't like them? Tell us why.
By #460385 19,Oct,20 10:18
Who are them?
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 19,Oct,20 10:57 other posts 
Blacks, latinos,police bashers.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 09:32 other posts 
It is not nessasaryly the "people" that anyone hates,it is what they stand for and how they go about gettig it.
Presentation is alot of the problem.Take the problem to congress wearing a suit and tie and present it with ACCURATE numbers as to how many blacks are killed by police and how many of them were unarmed and so forth.
Burning a family bussiness to the ground is no way to present a problem.That bussiness employes people,that are now out of work. Burning a police car is not either.It may have been the very car that would respond to a break in at YOUR house the next day.Shooting 2 officers while in their car is not helping either.
That is taking money and lives and resources away that could be spent to actually fix the issue perhaps.
That is the real issue I have with BLM and all the alphabet groups. Their presentation of their problems and the numbers and "facts" they use.
And to further respond to what Country said,the alphabet groups need to fix their own damn house before they go trying to fix everyone else's.Problems start at home and instead of fixing them,they go out looking for someone else to blame.For BLM, whitey makes a good scape goat.Althouht "whitey" Lincoln freed their ancestors and "whiteys"even bought a country in Africa,Liberia, to send them back home and guess what, THEY DIDN"T WANT TO GO BACK. Gee,I wonder why? No lions chasing them,no hunting with spears, less flys hanging around,even then,the US was a better home for them and they knew it.
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By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 09:46 other posts 
You forget this country started with merchandise being destroyed.
Just because your house is falling down around you doesn't mean you don't want protection from fires.
By tecsan [Ignore] 23,Oct,20 01:28 other posts 
Who will protect your house from burglary when the police are defunded???༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 23,Oct,20 10:01 other posts 
I'm 68 yrs old and my house has never been burgled. I'm not stupid to suggest police are not needed, but, why do we have to provide escorts to the dead? Why do we need to provide security at an NFL game? Why do thet need to serve eviction notices? And like these there are hundreds other things. You conviniently try to scare us off by saying "defunding" sugesting no police. Me thinks that after taking a dump you should use the toilet paper to wipe your mouth.
By tecsan [Ignore] 24,Oct,20 02:18 other posts 
Unlike a few others here, I respect your age and honesty hope you are doing well...I do not care what side you are on or myself for that matter...Do you think you and I are going to change anything...???As for your questions I think it is obvious with the exception of the first one which you need to explain a little more...༼☯﹏☯༽
By tecsan [Ignore] 30,Oct,20 01:46 other posts  ⤴
Now where is that runt Kaepernick...No one wants to touch him...That should resonate a little do you not think...༼☯﹏☯༽
By tecsan [Ignore] 02,Nov,20 22:37 other posts  ⤴
Not really, where in the hell is Kaepernick now???Many do not even know whom he is or how to spell his name like you...Why did nike abruptly stop his commercial???Lost revenue I bet...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 03,Nov,20 12:18 other posts 
it doesn't matter. It's his movement that matters. And that, baby, is well established and a thorn in the establishment's side.
By tecsan [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 02:33 other posts  ⤴
No darling...I say it because he did it during the National Anthem...If he wanted to kneel for seconds before or after then ok...Never seen teachers in a protest kneeling before the American Flag while the National Anthem was being played...That would be the end of their career...They should set good examples...Not disgracing the Country and our Flag...༼☯﹏☯༽
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 09:00 other posts 
Missed the point, didn't you?
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 09:53 other posts  ⤴
First, don't darling me. Second. The idea of disrespect to the anthem is just that, an idea. The majority of people may be outraged but, not only is it not against the law but I'll bet the Supreme Court would strike any laws trying to prevent it.
Get over it. You care more about a demonstration than the life of a man killed by the cops in a horrible way.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 12:24 other posts 
Wrong.just wrong,Folks don't want others dieing by police violence if that is what it amounts to after a investigation. What we are sick of is people using the system to destroy our country.
By CAT-2 [Ignore] 20,Oct,20 13:00 other posts 
L.p. According to you. My city is still vibrant. Florida is still beautiful, the Statue of liberty is still standing and you are still spewing wild ideas
"What we are sick of is people using the system to destroy our country."

Is your country so weak that it can't handle some 'disrespect to the flag'?
You country is ill and the people who are bending the knee just want to heal it.
They don't want to destroy the country, because it is the country they live in.
It is likely they want to destroy your idea of what the country should be, because
your idea's don't work for them.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Oct,20 12:07 other posts 
gee could it be the ideals that America was founded on don't work for them because they decided to be "different" so they could justify whineing all the time?
Get a job,go to work,and earn a wage,fufill your own needs and enjoy the fruits of your own labor and quit thinking you are owed something.YOU AINT owed a damn thing you didn't earn or pay into.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Oct,20 11:34 other posts 
Really? Is that what America was founded on?
Have you ever read the 'Declaration of Independence'?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Unalienable Rights: rights that you don't have to do anything for, to earn them.

Why don't you educate yourself about these things. You really need it.

But what I really don't understand is why you want to live in a world like you are always defending. It's just survival of the fittest, dog eat dog. My vision is of a human civilization that has outgrown that.
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Oct,20 00:50 other posts  ⤴
Sorry, was mainly talking about moral turpitude...Not the damn law...༼☯﹏☯༽
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Oct,20 03:30 other posts  ⤴
I resent that 'n' comment...Hell as I have told some here I have black nephews and cousins..Now where do you get off making that statement...Hell, you do not know me that well...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 21,Oct,20 01:49⤴
The point is being recieved too!

Did you hear about BLM supporter Michael Rhynes Jr. of Louisville?

Just another incident probably NO ONE has heard about...

While proudly wearing his shirt with Colin Kaepernick's stupid face on it, he walked into a bar called Bungalow Joe's, and opened fire killing three patrons in cold blood. All the while, grinning from ear to ear like only a sick twisted piece of animal shit could and would.

OH THAT POWER OF SUGGESTION IS WORKING REALLY GOOD!

🇺🇸 Back The Blue - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By kebmo [Ignore] 21,Oct,20 02:18 other posts 
Scorps, Are you sure you've got your "facts" straight there? Can you post a legitimate news source of this? I've looked into your story because I never heard it.

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