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The "web derived images" issue

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Started by #303133 [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 10:40
Many accounts are referred to (and subsequently deleted by) the abuse panel because of "web derived images" on a member's page. I have noticed, though, that only such photos of a sexual nature are included, while many members have posted "web derived images" on their pages that don't feature cocks or cunts.
The site guidelines don't specify that only sex photos taken from the web are forbidden:
"massive posting of internet pictures or pictures stolen from other members."

"Legally you can post only the pics you have legal rights for. Generally those are pics of yourself you made personally or pics of other persons you made personally and have their implicit permission to publish the photos.
It's not exactly legal and is not permitted to post pics taken from internet on this site as in 99.99% cases you do not have authorization of the producer of those pics to publish them."

This being the case, and in all fairness, shouldn't ALL "web derived images" be treated with equal judgement?

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By bella! [Ignore] 06,Oct,14 04:17 other posts 
EVALUATION PANEL VOTING MEMBERS, PLEASE READ THIS!


If admin does not have an issue with BENIGN web derived pictures, why would you?
By #303133 06,Oct,14 09:51
Voting based on grudges, perhaps?
By bella! [Ignore] 06,Oct,14 11:03 other posts 
There are so many inconsistencies. FAIR PLAY FOR ALL!


By bella! [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 10:44 other posts 
Be careful what you wish for.
By #451452 29,Sep,14 10:44
I agree Bella, unintended consequences can really bite hard.
By #303133 29,Sep,14 11:05
I'm not looking to get more people banned, just requesting that the rules be enforced fairly.
Why should one member be deleted because they post a pic of their favorite porn star, but another get a pass for posting an advertisement for their favorite roach spray?
According to the guidelines, both are equally ill*gal.

Both members should get "the usual message"...
By admin [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 11:49 other posts 
They are not equal. But if I start explaining this in guidelines there will be no end to it.

First, no one pretends he's a roach spray while many people here post other people photos as their own straightforward or implied, not as "my favorite pornstar".

Second, no one will sue you for identity theft of a roach spray. And barely someone will sue for using an image of a popular roach spray here or anywhere else. Though some companies like PayPal and WU were kinda sensitive about mentioning their brands on porn-related sites in the middle of 2000es, but this does not seem actual anymore.
By bella! [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 14:16 other posts 
Please expound, if a member posts a picture and titles it; 'My favorite porn star', do YOU feel that is acceptable or is it grounds for deletion if reported?
By admin [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 15:37 other posts 
I don't know why you keep asking the same or similar questions. I already explained both on forum and in private to you personally that there is a conception of fair use. I gave you a link to wikipedia article about fair use, again both on forum and in private some time ago. If you was not able to understand it I don't think I'm capable of explaining it to you any better. I'm sorry, but I'm just not that good in English nor in explaining things to anyone...


If such images are posted in private or for friends only I don't care. And I'm 99% sure no one will care. If such images are posted in public it may be speculated that I allow people to post such images in order to get more visitors and then monetize them one or another way. So it is implied copyright violation with intent of profit gains. Therefore I cannot permit this.

If someone post images of famous roach spray no one will imply that I try to get some kind of profits out of it on a porn site. Someone may, however, not like their brand on a site like this, but in this case they will write a complaint. But because such situation is very, very unlikely, I do not care either. If some time in a future I receive a complain like this I will specifically issue a rule like "posting images of Bugatti (or whatever it will be) brand of any kind is strictly forbidden". Until then you can post all you like.

However, you should consider this. If someone reports a profile to me for being abusive/rude and I go there and see only or overwhelming amount of internet humor crap on their page and no paid subscription, I will probably delete such profile without any second thoughts. This site is not dedicated to humor or internet trolling. You want to post funny pics and mock people - go to 4chan.
By bella! [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 16:13 other posts 
Thank you. Yes, you have been more than kind and tolerant of my questions regarding matters that affect the voting members of the evaluation panel that ultimately affect the general membership. I do recall asking you about violations relating to referrals of 'possible' un.derage members, the posting of pictures that reflect ch.ildren and pictures with BL00D. So if I have previously asked you a question regarding web derived pictures, I sincerely apologize.
By #303133 29,Sep,14 16:19
Admin, if you don't mind my saying so, you do better with English than many of the people on here who speak the language as their native tongue.
If the question isn't too personal, what is your native language?
By admin [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 17:06 other posts 
I'm trying, but half of time I have no idea what I'm saying or what others say to me

My native language is Russian.


By bigone21 [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 16:16 other posts 
i don't like it that some people are ALL OVER this forum, and on this site: SHOWYOUR**** and show off only one lousy picture... (maybe two times, to make some kind of point)

are you here to show off, or what??
By #303133 28,Sep,14 17:44
I am hurt that you think it is a "lousy" picture. I am rather fond of it. I am also wounded that you would say such a thing when I have never made fun of your pictures.

And...
I AM showing off. (Just not with pictures.)
By bigone21 [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 18:02 other posts 
"From now on, when I am mocking you, I will let you know."

@justwill, just one day and you forgot??
By #303133 28,Sep,14 18:03
(I wasn't actually hurt.)
By bigone21 [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 18:12 other posts 
not wounded either, i hope..!!??
By #303133 29,Sep,14 10:56
I see that you have met my stalker.
By bigone21 [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 12:26 other posts 
the word was "queer". NOT "JustWill".
By bigone21 [Ignore] 29,Sep,14 16:54 other posts 
but he seems nice! if you just pet him on the head, slap or piss him in the face, he's quiet enough!


By Ray10754 [Ignore] 28,Sep,14 12:30 other posts 
WEB derived photos?? What about a person that has photos on other WEB Sites?? They are there own photos and can post them where ever they wish to ! I have seen MANY people removed from this site because they have photos that are suposidly (WEB derived) And in all truth they are their own photos!!I agree with you Will, BUT Why should some one be removed just because some one here finds their photo some place on the web ?? What proof do they have that they are web derived? If the photo is of the same person it shouldn't be a problem.
This site or any other site cant tell you where you can post your photos.

It is a bunch of bull as far as Im concerned


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