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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 14,Sep,20 02:27  other posts
Protests (peaceful that is) are ok, but kneeling before the American Flag???That is a disgrace and dishonor...Why do many want to dishonor our American Vets...Yes, I admit this is a free Country, so feel free overpaid athletes to disrespect it if that is how you feel...There are other ways to protest is all that I am trying to get across...Saddens me to see people kneeling before the Nations Flag while the National Anthem is playing...Actually, tearful... ༼☯﹏☯༽

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By tecsan [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 03:46 other posts 
If you agreed with the kneeling...Where the hell is it now...The disrespectful BS was ended by the owners in the NFL...I know it will still happen, but there will be consequences...
By phart [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 11:34 other posts 
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Appears to be a hollow ruleing.
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Black national anthem? Since when do blacks get their own anthem? This is the UNITED states of America,not the divided by racism states of America.
So much for all this equality and shit they have been talking about. what a joke.
By sherryann [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 13:28 other posts 
we're in different times now...it will only get worse.
By phart [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 17:12 other posts 
For what gain is my question?
By sherryann [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 20:06 other posts 
None
By phart [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 21:57 other posts 
agreed.
All any logical person can see is more division, and less trust between peoples. Nothing to reinforce the so claimed desires of equality or tolerance.
By sherryann [Ignore] 14,Sep,21 23:22 other posts 
Right just look at the last year & a half plus, stolen election during the pandemic, nothing but hate filled lawlessness, hate for all law enforcement officers, looting rioting killings and robbing while erasing history, tearing down monuments...and all of it during a pandemic that the president now mandates vaccination in order to work a job. I don't think it's a coincidence that all this happened simultaneously.


By tecsan [Ignore] 11,Sep,21 04:46 other posts 
Please anyone...Google kaepernick and see what he is doing...My guess is canadian little football league...


By tecsan [Ignore] 09,Sep,21 03:01 other posts 
Tell me what Kaepernick is doing now???


By tecsan [Ignore] 07,Sep,21 03:25 other posts 
I have not kept track of kaepernick, but I think he is a washed up old story for now...Who the hell would want him representing their team???


By #613564 06,Sep,21 02:43
Tescan Great post, and making a good point!! some of those privileged bastards, paid MILLIONS, to play "Kids Games" and then make more MILLIONS, for endorsements, while degrading the nation. Do I need to call out Kaperfuck?
I won't buy those things, that those traitors endorse!!
By phart [Ignore] 06,Sep,21 10:26 other posts 
IT is not the "priviledged bastards" that are really to blame. It is the damn idiots that PAY TO WATCH them play kids games and PAY FOR the junk with their numbers and names plastered on it.


By CAT [Ignore] 26,Aug,21 15:39 other posts 
From Yahoo Sports

Out of uniform and thus virtually out of the public eye, Colin Kaepernick took a seat during the national anthem before the San Francisco 49ers’ first preseason game in 2016. He did it again the next week, and again the moment passed with little notice.

On Aug. 26, 2016, after the 49ers’ third preseason game, Kaepernick was asked about his silent protest during the anthem. “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color,” he said. “To me, this is bigger than football, and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way.”

The next week, after consulting with former NFL player and Green Beret Nate Boyer, Kaepernick decided instead to kneel. With that single action, Kaepernick set in motion waves that even now define sports in 21st-century America. It was the single most significant act of athlete protest since the 1968 Olympics, and Kaepernick himself forced difficult conversations in America like no one since Muhammad Ali. Admire him or loathe him — and there is seemingly no middle ground here — it’s clear that Colin Kaepernick is the most influential athlete of the 21st century.


By dgraff [Ignore] 14,Aug,21 06:27 other posts 
I believe kneeling to the American flag is asking to be shot in the back of the head execution style
By CAT [Ignore] 14,Aug,21 11:57 other posts 
Right, because it's your way or the highway. Haven't you any respect for the Constitution or The dead men who gave up their lives to make sure your way is NEVER the way?
By #648364 14,Aug,21 20:30
It's your right to do whatever you want. Vets make up a vast portion of community leadership. Intellectual individuals know that if you want change you shouldn't burn down prominent bridges.
That "guy" that started the whole mess said that he asked a vet his opinion and was given his blessing. I served 8.5 years and can tell you that the "guy" managed to find the opinion of a 1 in 2,000. They are odd balls, black sheep, and rarely fit in. Typically, they were lied to by their recruiters, and hate everything about the military.
You can wipe your butt with the flag, burn it, or even kneel before it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. That's like blaming Australia for the actions of the Elks Lodge and The American Cancer Association. If you wish to protest you need prominent people, IE they usually have vast influence over politicians and are very wealthy. Good luck with that. Money gets their attention and if you cut it off jobs are lost. Besides the fact that the country is divided into trillions of facets and will never stand united. Too many people just want to stay in their little groups casting stones at their neighbors. Who wants progress when we can keep living like cavemen.
By CAT [Ignore] 14,Aug,21 21:28 other posts 
You have your opinion. I prefer to believe we live in a great country that at the moment is in the grip of extremist both on the left and the right. I don’t give a fuck weather the demonstration was in poor taste or not. It was and still is lawful. That’s it. You like it.? You don’t like it? It doesn’t matter.
By #648364 14,Aug,21 22:01
Thats exactly why nothing will ever change. The form of protest burns bridges instead mending. It just adds another group that breaks down into more subgroups. It's 2021 and yet we still socially act like troops of monkey's.

Two party system has this Country so divided and enslaved to a sensitive system it can't change without chaos.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 06:06 other posts 
"Two party system has this Country so divided and enslaved to a sensitive system it can't change without chaos."
There are so many underlying values to this comment.
You wouldn't say something like that, if the country was perfect.
Then why would people not be allowed to show the country has problems?
If you think chaos is needed, why are you even concerned about people kneeling?
By #648364 16,Aug,21 17:19
Because it's the one common ground that could unite the groups as a whole. It's too late for me to care. I gave up professional sports and TV. If the boat gets rocked the wrong way in this system the middle class pays the tax man. Ie...15 dollars an hour. Full time positions cut benefits cut, and locations closed. It's not fair, but for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. In order to fix Washington and all 3 forms of government you have to get rid of the party system, get rid of lobbying, and get rid of private funding. What do you think would happen to the stock market and all of those retirement funds. What would happen to prices...Chaos. those puppets won't transition for the better good of humanity. Too many people are still indoctrinated into believing that voting for Team A or Team B
By CAT [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 13:23 other posts 
LumpyStump , you seem to know about protests. How would you have protested? Two party system, bad, bad,bad. We should be like Italy.

Major parties[edit]
Active parties having garnered at least 4% in the latest general/European election or being represented by at least 30 MPs or 5 MEPs:

Five Star Movement (Movimento 5 Stelle)
Northern League – League for Salvini Premier (Lega Nord – Lega per Salvini Premier)
Democratic Party (Partito Democratico)
Forward Italy (Forza Italia)
Brothers of Italy (Fratelli d'Italia)
Italy Alive (Italia Viva)
Courage Italy (Coraggio Italia)
Minor parties[edit]
Active parties having garnered at least 0.5% of the vote in a general/European election or having elected at least one MP/MEP/regional councillor with their own lists or having been represented by at least 5 MPs or 2 MEPs or in 3 different Regional Councils.

Action (Azione)
Alliance of the Centre (Alleanza di Centro)
Article One (Articolo Uno)
Centrists for Europe (Centristi per l'Europa)
Communist Party (Partito Comunista)
Communist Refoundation Party (Partito della Rifondazione Comunista)
Democratic Centre (Centro Democratico)
Energies for Italy (Energie per l'Italia)
Green Europe (Europa Verde)
Identity and Action (Identità e Azione)
Italian Animalist Party (Partito Animalista Italiano)
Italian Left (Sinistra Italiana)
Italian Liberal Party (Partito Liberale Italiano)
Italian Republican Party (Partito Repubblicano Italiano)
Italian Socialist Party (Partito Socialista Italiano)
Italy of Values (Italia dei Valori)
Italy in Common (Italia in Comune)
Let's Change! (Cambiamo!)
Moderates (Moderati)
More Europe – Italian Radicals (Più Europa – Radicali Italiani)
New Force (Forza Nuova)
New Italian Socialist Party (Nuovo Partito Socialista Italiano)
Pensioners' Party (Partito Pensionati)
Popular Alternative (Alternativa Popolare)
Populars for Italy (Popolari per l'Italia)
Possible (Possibile)
Pound House Italy (CasaPound Italia)
Power to the People (Potere al Popolo)
Solidary Democracy (Democrazia Solidale)
There is the Alternative (L'Alternativa c'è)
The People of Family (Il Popolo della Famiglia)
Tricolour Flame (Fiamma Tricolore)
Union of the Centre (Unione di Centro)
Us with Italy (Noi con l'Italia)
Workers' Communist Party
By #648364 15,Aug,21 15:34
The only way to protest without burning bridges and your neighborhood down is the long way. Build solid foundations and get backing. Talk to police officers as many can give you powerful insight. Veterans can give you access to politicians. Speak before congress. If you attack, people in high places control jobs, benefits, and the stock market. Just like a kid at the grocery store. The kid that behaves and asks kindly for a candy bar will receive far more than the kid that throws the temper tantrum.
I believe that laws deter the abiding and punishment deters the criminal. I would like to see prisons turned into actual prisons and sentences vastly increased. However, I feel that the entire Judicial System needs a vast overhaul first. Too many innocent people incarcerated because they were pressured into a plea deal.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 07:40 other posts 
LumpyStump. I agree with some of your comments. However, there’s a lot of “buts”. Demonstrations are the last efforts of people whose calls for change fall on deaf ears. Think of this, Death by Cop is very real for our African American community. In the last two years there’s been a lot of talk on how to fix this. Tell me, do you know of anything being done to stop this?
Getting “Candy” is hardly on their mind.
By #648364 16,Aug,21 12:56
Yes, not nation wide but many departments are taking steps in the right direction. Do I agree with the steps, no! It's 2021 police officers shouldn't approach any car for a routine traffic stops. Even if the system was fixed and perfect people would still run causing conflict. Humans are imperfect and therefore the systems they implement will always be imperfect.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 13:30 other posts 
Yes, but there would be reason.
Progress depends on people who recognize problems and demonstrate them to the rest of the public. Do you think nationalism is more important than progress?
By #648364 15,Aug,21 14:35
So our nation can progress with people pissing on Veterans graves, burning the flag, kneeling upon the national Anthem. Peoples problems are with local governments, and our government. Why piss on the people that are now having second thoughts about defending your right to destroy everything they believe in. That flag, that song is more symbolic than you realize.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 14:58 other posts 
You don't seem to understand. Folks that approve of protest and violence and riots and so forth, do not want progress.
They are getting exactly what they want. Destruction, hatred, separation ,etc.

What could a liberal bitch about if all the worlds problems were fixed? Liberals suicide rate would go thru the roof if all the worlds problems were fixed.
By CAT [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 15:14 other posts 
Phart, sigh, I give up.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 17:29 other posts 
oh, now what would you go and do that for?
By #648364 15,Aug,21 17:22
So, I take it that you are an Authoritarian.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 21:33 other posts 
sheesh,
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Hindrances to free and fair elections in authoritarian systems may include:[27]

Control of the media by the authoritarian incumbents.
Interference with opposition campaigning.
Electoral fraud.
Violence against opposition.
Large-scale spending by the state in favor of the incumbents.
Permitting of some parties, but not others.
Prohibitions on opposition parties, but not independent candidates.
Allowing competition between candidates within the incumbent party, but not those who are not in the incumbent party.
By #648364 16,Aug,21 00:29
Either you are Left Authoritarian, Left Libertarian, Right Libertarian, Right Authoritarian. On all the tests I'm .2 Left and .2 Authoritarian on a 10 scale so I am as middle as they come. Only Authoritarians bitch about liberals.

So, are you a liberal bitching about liberals?
I just don't understand what's wrong with liberals bitching?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 04:35 other posts 
How about 'egalitarianism'?

There are other possibilities to manage society then a state government,
that is either hands-off (personal responsibility) or hands-on (nanny state).

That choice between libertarianism and authoritarianism is a 'false dichotomy'.
We don't need to oppress people to have more equality and freedom,
we need to reduce oppression to have more equality and freedom!
By #648364 16,Aug,21 13:04
I don't agree with any of the BS. It's all labels and categories. The key factor is that humans are imperfect. Therefore, outside of genetically altering humans there will always be murder, greed, thievery, ****, bullying, corruption...utopia is a pipe dream. It works on paper and even looks good.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Aug,21 15:09 other posts 
Still, the best thing people can do to improve humanity is organize, because one person left to fend for themself, will bring out the worst in them.
The imperfection of humans can only be overcome in the safety of organized society. Utopia is off course unattainable, but we surely can achieve a hell of
a lot better than the selfish shitshow most of humanity is suffering from now. There is one consolation; with the current rate of destruction, it will probably
all come to an end soon.
By phart [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:03 other posts 
Liberals spend way to much time bitching and burning and looting and etc that COULD be spent actually FIXING the fucking problems they are bitching about in the first place.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:48 other posts 
Phart
President Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville on Tuesday, saying they included “some very fine people,” while expressing sympathy for their demonstration against the removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. It was a strikingly different message from the prepared statement he had delivered on Monday, and a reversion to his initial response over the weekend.
By #648364 16,Aug,21 21:44
I kind of disagree. Most of those looters probably have never voted and aren't even affiliated with a party. Troublemakers use liberals as smoke screens. As I can't picture liberals busting into stores to steal menthol cigarettes, fur coats, TVs, alcohol, jewelry, and designer clothing. Oh, hundred thousand dollar sport cars.
If there is one endless resource in the world, it's problems.
There already is destruction, hatred and separation. How about fixing some of it?
Do you think people just really like protesting? It's not like anything has been accomplished since they started protesting.

But this is the conservative way of thinking; let's not solve any problem ever, because at some point there won't be any problems left.
By tecsan [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 05:42 other posts 
Preach that to the libturds...They are the protestors and activists...Remember, obummer the activist in charge...
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 07:02 other posts 
That makes no sense. Liberals are all about fixing problems.
Conservatives are all about doing nothing, because everything is perfect.
How can they fix the problems they are protesting about, if guys like you say "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
By #648364 16,Aug,21 17:38
I don't say no. I'm only Authoritarian by the slightest margin because I believe in super strict punishment. However, I wouldn't support it until the judicial system is overhauled because it's broken. I believe that it is so broken that in order to fix it we need to have to give the government a super delux enema and that won't happen without conflict. Them suckers are dug in like Alabama ticks. Infesting both team A and Team B and all three forms of government.
I'm not Republican, I'm not a Democrat, I'm not conservative, I'm not liberal, I'm not authoritarian...Im an American. We the people, all men are created equal, the constitution...you know, American. You all love your teams.

Whomever thinks that the system is just fine is 100% steeple. Just remember that a wolf may take a sheep every once and a while. However, the Sheppard would cull the entire flock for a dollar.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Aug,21 14:32 other posts 
You're confronted with a dilemma then, because if you're pretty much in the middle and you vote for a politician who is pretty much in the middle, you will basically get what you already have. There are lots of politicians who believe in super strict punishment, mostly Republicans, but would voting for them change the things you would like to see changed?

So it depends what you think is the cause for the broken judicial system and government. Is it corrupt, under-represented, underfunded, overpriced, self-serving, moralistic, unethical, egocentric, elitist, favoritism, nepotism or anything else? Then vote for the politician(s) who mostly represents the opposite of what you see as the problem, independent of their political affiliation.
That person will probably not win, but it's the most you can do.
By #648364 17,Aug,21 14:51
You wouldn't catch me casting a vote even if I were dead. I wouldn't hire any of those motherfuckers to pass out cologne in a truck stop restroom. Team A, Team B...I can give you within 50-50 odds to as which Team will win the next Presidential Election. To me that's a rigged election.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Aug,21 10:32 other posts 
The group of non-voters is at least as big as either the Republican or Democrat voters.

Ever heard George Carlin's take on not voting?
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By #648364 18,Aug,21 12:57
Not to sound snarky but I know. Many people are leaving the flock but as long as people vote it will be business as usual. I wish they would put on the ballots an option to vote incompetence for all candidates. We are getting stronger.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Aug,21 16:19 other posts 
Sadly, I don't think it would help if everybody stopped voting either. The captains of industry would just decide for you who should lead the country. Or the politicians would just unite the two parties and adopt the Chinese system. At least they wouldn't need election campaign funding anymore. But I'm sure the captains of industry would find other ways to bribe your politicians.

Democracy has it's problems, but I don't know of any better systems.
The problem is just that the people are divided so much, that the politicians can just fearmonger about the other side and never have to actually work for the people. That only benefits the people who don't want the government to do anything at all. It sounds like you're not one of them.
By #648364 18,Aug,21 20:57
Not if the majority wants to fix the system. People only see the voters, not the slowly rising soon to be majority. They don't have enough integrity to fix the problems. It will never be perfect but it could be a whole lot better. Everyone is like a cat with a laser pointer, smoke and mirrors, sly of hand.
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 09:07 other posts 
So, what you are saying is, “ Let’s flip a coin” it’ll save money for sure.
By #648364 19,Aug,21 09:22
You can vote for the Donkey, you can vote for the Elephant, you can vote for the ringmaster, and you can even vote for the clown. The only guarantee is an extremely expensive ticket to a three ring circus.
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 12:23 other posts 
It’s a cash cow for networks and publications.
Is there a third party that you think is better than the two main parties? If all non-voters voted for one of the other parties or at least vote in some of their representatives in the house and senate, it would surely give the two main parties some competition. It would be a first step to changing your presidential system to a parliamentary system, which offer much more variety of politics and gives the voters much more opportunities to flush out scummy politicians.
In general, citizens under a parliamentary system are more satisfied with their government, than citizens under a presidential system.
By #648364 19,Aug,21 13:58
Whomever controls congress controls. I wouldn't vote for anyone that I wouldn't hire. These people have people conduct surveys for their parties throughout the country. When the politicians show up with the rehearsed customized speech for your specific area you can get all warm and mushy inside. It's all BS, occasionally they may do something that fulfills a promise. Watch the 100 page bill get turned into a 1000 page contracts for pals bill.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:43 other posts 
Phart

National Socialist Movement

The group is notable for its violent antisemitic rhetoric, its racist views and its policy allowing members of other racist groups to join NSM while remaining members of other groups. NSM became the largest membership-based neo-Nazi group in this country through the 2000s and into the following decade. The group’s brand and tactics of demonstrating in quasi-Nazi uniforms stalled, and its membership tally subsequently dipped. Since 2015, the group has sought to reinvigorate itself by forming coalitions with other white power groups. NSM arrived at the center of the deadly riot in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017 via that strategy, which devastated the group. NSM’s membership continues to dwindle, and its former leader, Jeff Schoep, remains a defendant in the Sines v. Kessler civil trial, which targets those who planned and promoted the deadly 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:49 other posts 
Tecsan
I just posted 3 articles addressed to Phart. They fit here too
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:39 other posts 
Phart
White Lives Matter, a racist response to the civil rights movement Black Lives Matter, is a neo-Nazi group that is growing into a movement as more and more white supremacist groups take up its slogans and tactics.
By phart [Ignore] 17,Aug,21 12:21 other posts 
And I am not a member of that group. There are extremist on both sides of this.
BUt sometimes you have to either stand back or support the group with the most resources fighting for causes you believe in. Same as the liberals. Most are 2 lazy to loot and riot, so they donate money to bail out the 1's that do. I am not a nazi,and feel like that route is WRONG as the liberals route,but at the moment,do you see anyone else trying to protect our rights from a conservatives view point?
By CAT [Ignore] 17,Aug,21 18:33 other posts 
Phart, you don’t have faith in your fellow conservatives. Your political views and your actions are being ridiculed by the after affects of Trump. Extremes are never good. I fight for Democrats BECAUSE Trump is still in the Republican driver’s seat. I always supported what I thought was right, not the left or the right. I’m willing to bet most people think like I do. They are your protection, but, they need for people to follow the right path.
By tecsan [Ignore] 18,Aug,21 04:07 other posts 
I think you put that right on the money...
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 07:42 other posts 
Ananas, I don’t believe nationalism is good for any country. Progress is.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 08:38 other posts 
Good! Because I think nationalism should be limited to supporting the national sports teams and having a good time during national holidays. The flag and the national anthem are just for showing you belong together as a nation, not for excluding people for not fanatically vindicating their country enough.
I think we should be the toughest of critics on anything our countries do. It's the people who make the nation any good, not the symbolism. If any critique is dismissed as disrespect for the symbolism, than the people are not developing their country. And lack of development is regression.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 08:41 other posts 
By tecsan [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 03:11 other posts 
I agree with the above...To clear up one little thing though, Kaepernick was being referred to here, I think...
By #632705 19,Aug,21 14:21
If we stand United that means that them “trillions of facets” bowed to only one way of life! Your right that’s never gonna happen!
By #648364 19,Aug,21 17:39
So, are you saying that people that don't think the same can't coexist. If so, I would call that a personality disorder. I agree, unless there is strong common ground. That's why I don't care any more. I have about 40 years left and no offspring. I put my blinders on and will keep feeding the corruption machine minimal tax dollars. You all can enjoy the leaking boat.
By Gntlmn [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 00:15 other posts 
And I'll shoot any trump flagger first.
By dgraff [Ignore] 15,Aug,21 09:39 other posts 
Hahaha I’m with ya
By tecsan [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 05:13 other posts 
I do not know if I would go that far, but any team that has even one member kneel should be protested...The 49er's are shit in my book...It should have only happened once...
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 07:44 other posts 
Tecsan, that’s rich. You are calling for a protest to protest a protest? HAHAHAHAHA
By phart [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:06 other posts 
No protest needed, just don't buy tickets to their "games" and they go broke.
Get woke, go broke.
No protest needed.
If sports figures want to protest do it by not playing the "game" whatever it may be. Don't disrespect your country, your flag or the veterans who died protecting your freedoms to essentially whine about some trivial problem with a small minority of a minority race that has no respect for law and order.

How many blacks actually disrespect the law? Few,but those are the only 1's you hear about. law abiding blacks need to make themselves known by protesting the idolization of the thugs like floyd.
By CAT [Ignore] 16,Aug,21 17:56 other posts 
Phart
The veterans who died protecting our freedoms make it possible to disrespect the country and the flag but I doubt kneeling during the national anthem can be stretched into such disrespect.
You describe these protests as : People whine about some trivial problem with a small minority of a minority race that has no respect for law and order.
You are a racist.
By phart [Ignore] 17,Aug,21 12:24 other posts 
No I am not a racist. I am stating facts.
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 08:17 other posts 
Phart, one word made it racist….”minority”
If you had said, “People whine about some trivial problem and a portion of the people has no respect for the law.” Would have been acceptable even though these problems are not trivial. Your take is that this is done only by a minority like blacks. That makes you a racist.
By tecsan [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 03:12 other posts 
Kind of...But, it has done happened ticket sales down and look at nike...
By CAT [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 08:28 other posts 
Response by the fans is not warranted to be positive. On the other hand, this simple act of protest has brought to the forefront of American politics, the need for change. In 60 seconds this man managed to have a whole country aware of the injustices practiced on blacks and other minorities. Granted that the luckiest thing to have happened was that a Clown of a President took notice of the act and complained very vociferously.
By #632705 19,Aug,21 14:17
Hopefully you’ll be out riding your motorcycle and you’ll get one of them people that don’t look twice! Be cool too see your brains smeared down the highway!
By dgraff [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 17:12 other posts 
It hasn’t happened in 40 years besides i ride in a group 100 plus it’s hard not to see or hear thanks for joining us you poo 💩 packer
By #632705 19,Aug,21 21:29
Yet it’s OK for you to threaten to murder someone just because used their freedom! Typical white trash with 100 year old ideals! Your ways and your kind are going away!
By dgraff [Ignore] 19,Aug,21 21:44 other posts 
Well I see you are white so you must be part of the white guilt group what do you guys ride a wheel of cheddar cheese


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