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Trump/Pence or Biden/Harris...Which do you feel will prevail???

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 09,Sep,20 03:45  other posts
Trump has been somewhat erratic at times...But look at Creepy sleepy uncle joe...Pence pretty clean, but not totally...Harris, now I wonder like I do with uncle joe...??? (I agree it is about 50/50 with the flaws concerning both parties)...༼☯﹏☯༽

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By Maxwell_93 [Ignore] 10,Jan,24 17:48 other posts 
Biden's gonna get overshadowed by a young progressive coming into the field and Trump's gonna be cockblocked from all the ballots. Can we all bank on Kennedy as a yolo vote?


By Cody8789 [Ignore] 06,Jan,24 19:05 other posts 
Isn’t it time for some new blood in the white house, for a change, I would like to see someone in there fourty’s- fifty’s. Not any current person in politics. All politicians are corrupt.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Jan,24 19:13 other posts 
Personally, for my representatives, I only care about their ideas
and their ability to turn their ideas into reality.

Not all politicians are corrupt, but the American system
doesn't make it easy for them to not be corrupt.
Money shouldn't be called 'speech' and
corporations shouldn't be called 'people'.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 06,Jan,24 19:17 other posts 
All politicians are corrupt at different levels, the ones that are not corrupt just haven’t been caught yet
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I would run for president but somehow my secret lifestyle would get out and I would be so embarrassed
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Jan,24 04:18 other posts 
What is your definition of 'corrupt'?

I guess, like me, you consider it corrupt, when a politician makes their decisions based on personal gain, instead of what they should do as representative of their voters?

The Socialist Party I vote for, in The Netherlands, makes sure none of their representatives, from the bottom to the top, is in any way able of getting personal gain, from any of their decisions. The only gain they might have is the same as all their voters; living in the world that more represents their worldview.

My representatives don't even have the motive of a big salary, which all the other politicians have. The Socialist Party is the only party to have a 'Solidarity scheme'.
All paid representatives have to hand over every last cent they earn, to the party.
Then they get paid a moderate wage and reasonable expenses are compensated. Even our national party chair gets paid about $3500 net per month, while the salary
of member of parliament is $10930 gross per month.
This makes sure they do their job to represent their voters and not for the money.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Dec,23 09:24 other posts 
The first of the sixteen of Trump's fake electors in Michigan has flipped.
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As I predicted, the domino's are falling. The ones who were still standing, that is.

The Michigan attorney general drops the charges against James Renner, who agreed to "cooperate fully" with the attorney general's investigation.
"In an interview obtained by the New York Times, fake Trump elector James Renner told prosecutors in Michigan that he was “upset” when he realized he had participated in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election results." "Renner said “it was his belief Donald Trump may have the ability to win the election” when he signed the certificate"
Duh, if you ignore the votes, your preferred candidate wins.
The problem is; that's not democracy, bud.

Each defendant has been charged with:
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
- Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony,
- Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.

I'm sure that several of the other 15 fake electors will want to flip now too.

In any case, I would suggest that the prosecutors and judges do not accept too many more of those fake electors flipping against Trump, to save their own skin, but to send most of them to jail for at least ten years. This 76 year old traitor, to both his country and the fascist he aligned himself with, can live out his years in freedom and whatever sliver of shame he actually feels, if he spills the beans on all the other traitors.


By tecsan [Ignore] 18,Dec,23 04:40 other posts 
Hope these two are ousted on their undecisive asses. Both are nuts, yes joey and cumala.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 21,Dec,23 22:02 other posts 
And, yet, the economy is the envy of the world.
By tecsan [Ignore] 21,Dec,23 23:30 other posts 
And yet, it always will be until joey lets china take over.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Dec,23 23:54 other posts 
China has bought so many companys, and so much land,with our own money it is scary. Bill gates is the only person that owns more land here in the US than the chinese best i can remember from reading a few weeks ago.
By tecsan [Ignore] 22,Dec,23 01:17 other posts 
I think you are right. What is to stop him from selling to the Chinese?
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 22,Dec,23 08:13 other posts 
I wouldn’t worry too much, Phart. It was the same with the Japanese in the late 80’s early 90’s. When we hit a bump in the economy Japan took a bath.
And wasn't that all privately owned land?
The only way to prevent privately owned land getting sold to China
is either have more publicly owned land or regulations.
Libertarian capitalism is not doing that for you.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Dec,23 12:43 other posts 
The sellers should be conscious of who they sell to and not sell to foreign countries,they should be charged with a crime for doing that.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Dec,23 04:40 other posts 
If everyone is conscious of what they should do, for the general benefit
of the people, the country and humanity, we wouldn't need rules, laws and regulations. I agree.

Are we living in fantasy-land or are we living in the real world?
In this world, the majority of people need to be told what to do and not to do.
That's why we have rules, laws and regulations.

If your rules, laws and regulations have outcomes that are undesirable,
then you think of better rules, laws and regulations.

If you want them to be 'charged with a crime for doing that', then you need
a rule, law or regulation against selling land to foreign countries.
It's not like that land now belongs to China, it's just that the profits made there will go to China. They are just 'investing' like your preferred capitalist system allows.
If you don't like that, maybe you need to rethink your ideas on capitalism.

So, do you want to restrict the sales of privately owned land?
Or is there maybe land that shouldn't be privately owned?


By tecsan [Ignore] 09,Dec,23 03:09 other posts 
Old uncle joe is really trying to make a good run of it. He will probably get Trump convicted here and there. But, does not matter to me and some I know, our vote will still go for him. Better him than uncle joe the Country wrecker.
By #681164 12,Dec,23 11:06
Why would you want to throw away your vote? Why not vote for another Republican?
By phart [Ignore] 12,Dec,23 16:52 other posts 
1 good choice has already dropped out and the other 1 is trailing behind so ,frankly Trump is still the man and yes I will vote for him if he is on the ballet. OR I will vote for who he supports.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Dec,23 12:19 other posts 
Well, you're a minority even within your group of voters.
The majority says they will not vote for Trump, if he is convicted.
They probably don't realize that Trump has already been found liable of sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll and defaming her, and he has been found guilty of fraudulently inflating the value of his properties and other assets.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Dec,23 17:37 other posts 
Those charges have nothing to do with how Trump would run the country.
Least ye forget,clinton had sex with a intern a few times while president,he was impeached and finished his term. Sex has nothing to do with running the country apparently so if it can't be used against clinton it shouldn't be used against Trump.that old double standard again.
I will be voting for Trump,or who ever he supports.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Dec,23 06:00 other posts 
Here is a clear explanation on how Republicans are distorting the facts about Hunter Biden's alleged corruption and payments to his father. All their claims are repudiated
by bank records, released emails and records from Hunter's laptop.
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By tecsan [Ignore] 06,Dec,23 00:32 other posts 
Who the fuck cares. The big guy is the most guilty here and we have to go through moron hunter to prove that. However, there is more than enough proof. What the hell do you want, gift wrapping the old fart?
By #681164 08,Dec,23 19:11
You are just repeating Republican dogma. If there was more than enough proof, he, Biden, not only would be impeached but CONVICTED by the Senate. Hunter is a possible crook and he’s a huge embarrassment to Daddy, but you don’t convict a family member for the crimes of another. Trump has over 90 indictments against him and the Republicans are sweating bullets and making deals with the Devil just to get ANYTHING on Old Joe. It’s laughable if it wasn’t so wrong.
By tecsan [Ignore] 08,Dec,23 22:42 other posts 
We will see who laughs last. Little hunter would not ever come by all his millions without decrepit old daddy. Bet the house impeaches him, the senate (well the libtards will have to decide if their woke BS is worth upholding).
By curvy8 [Ignore] 09,Dec,23 07:43 other posts 
I am not voting for Hunter just sayin'
By #681164 09,Dec,23 10:34
He’s not running, right?
By tecsan [Ignore] 10,Dec,23 05:02 other posts 
GOD help us if another corrupt biden runs.
By #681164 09,Dec,23 10:33
So Hunter is rich because of Daddy, so what? I know of ANOTHER one that is rich because of his daddy. That one is just a few missteps away from losing it all.
It’s not WOKE BS, it’s what the majority of the people in this country believe in and want.
Let me give you a lesson on WOKE:
Woke is defined as “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice),” and identified as U.S. slang.”

We, on the LEFT, care about important facts and issues. We care about social injustices. We care about racial injustices. What does the RIGHT care about? Hunter Biden’s laptop. Give it up, Junior, the RIGHT is the new ME Generation.
By curvy8 [Ignore] 10,Dec,23 04:56 other posts 
Indeed - I could care less of what his grown man son does. If he was running for office, that would be another thing.
By tecsan [Ignore] 10,Dec,23 05:43 other posts 
Agree. Refer to my above comment.
By #681164 11,Dec,23 15:39
By phart [Ignore] 10,Dec,23 08:52 other posts 
the social injustice right now is the left trying to prevent Americans from being able to vote Trump back into office in 2024. it's our country to,and we don't trust biden or his cronies to run it anymore,he and his ilk are running this country into the ground
By #681164 11,Dec,23 15:56
That's three distinct subjects:
First, it's not true the left is trying to prevent Americans from voting for Trump. Trump is in a shitload of trouble brought on by his own doing. The laws he's being accused of breaking have been in the books for a heck of a longer time than he's been around. If he's not on the ticket, it's because of his own doing.
Second, no one is stopping anyone for voting against Biden. Whatever the outcome of the election, that's why we vote. If you don't like Biden then you can try to vote him out regardless if Trump is running or not.
Third, Republicans and many others are not happy with Biden's economy. Fine, I believe he's doing as well as can be expected, but, like I've said before, vote him out if you can.
By tecsan [Ignore] 12,Dec,23 00:25 other posts 
No where does it say that you cannot run for president while in prison or a felon. Remember we had one some years back run while in prison. I did not see any state trying to keep him off the ballot. Libtards are afraid and trying every dirty tactic they can.
By #681164 12,Dec,23 11:04
They are trying every trick in the book but it's not dirty. It is what it is. If the shoe was in the other foot, Republicans would be doing it too. Let me just say two words, "Hunter Biden".
By tecsan [Ignore] 12,Dec,23 22:43 other posts 
Yes I agree with you. But the other shoe on another foot, I do not think holds much water. Look how long the Republicans have waited for the impeachment inquiry, then look at how long it took to impeach Trump, which they knew would not get enough senate votes. There may be enough senate votes to impeach joey, we will have to wait and see.
By #681164 13,Dec,23 11:01
You honestly believe a Democrat led Senate would have 15 democrats vote for impeachment? I don't.
By tecsan [Ignore] 15,Dec,23 02:25 other posts 
I really do not either. But we will have to wait and see the evidence, sometimes people have to eat crow.
By #681164 15,Dec,23 06:07
Let’s see.
By tecsan [Ignore] 16,Dec,23 02:29 other posts 
It will be interesting. I just wonder who is going to be the democrat nominee. Biden???


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Dec,23 08:28 other posts 
"Hunter Biden Offers to Testify Publicly. House Republicans … Aren’t Interested"
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Republicans want to question Hunter behind closed doors,
so they can lie about it.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 04,Dec,23 16:43 other posts 
The Repuckers are chickenshit liars
By tecsan [Ignore] 05,Dec,23 00:46 other posts 
I believe that is because they can go into more depth. Have someone take notes, doubt there would be a problem with that. Also they have said that they would do it publicly after that. What the hell is he afraid of IF he is innocent?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Dec,23 06:07 other posts 
Sure you believe that, because that's the shit they are telling you now. You eat it all.

When they wanted to question witnesses, then they demanded to do it publicly,
because they wanted everyone to see the dirt. It didn't work out that way,
because all the witnesses crushed their nonsense. When they try to spin that,
it is clear for everyone that they are lying. So now, they don't want people to be able
to see that they are lying. That doesn't matter for you, because you'll believe them without ever fact checking anything, but people who have some intellectual honesty could easily see their blatend lying.

He's not afraid, he's just not giving them the opportunity to lie even more.
What are Republicans afraid of, for not wanting to do this publicly?

By the way, Hunter Biden is a citizen and he has no obligation to answer any questions from House Republicans. He could easily sue several of them for defamation and win.
By #681164 08,Dec,23 19:13
Why can’t it be in the open? Trump’s impeachment trial was held in the open? What are they afraid off?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Nov,23 04:25 other posts 
OMG, the wife of Bill Burr flipped off Trump!
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By phart [Ignore] 28,Nov,23 09:14 other posts 
Just as Trumps button was bigger than Kim jong un's, his finger is bigger and has alot to back it up.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Nov,23 11:02 other posts 
His ass is bigger too.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 04,Dec,23 16:44 other posts 
He must be proud of that. I wonder when he’ll start boasting about it?


By tecsan [Ignore] 10,Nov,23 01:44 other posts 
Give me a break please. Manchin/Romney. How pathetic is this idea?
By phart [Ignore] 10,Nov,23 16:21 other posts 
a donkey and a rino, what result would we get? a rionkey or a donko?
Naw, seriously, yea right,that would float like a lead balloon.
By tecsan [Ignore] 14,Nov,23 00:14 other posts 
The wet dream of the billionaires;
the same crushing of the working class and presents for the rich,
without the stupid antics.
By tecsan [Ignore] 15,Nov,23 23:55 other posts 
Live with it, you also take advantage of it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Nov,23 05:08 other posts 
So you agree that right-wingers are crushing the working class
and are giving presents to the rich?

And you think that benefits anyone, but the rich?

That requires some denial of reality. I agree, it's not as clearly visible in your country
as it has been in mine, the past decades, but it's still very clear. Even in your country, in the 60s any guy with a basic job could buy a house. Are you asking yourself why it takes a couple with good jobs to buy a house, while still requiring a huge mortgage they probably can never pay? That's because the right-wingers have been crushing the working class and have been giving presents to the rich, for decades.

Why do you think the term MAGA cought on?
You know you are getting screwed, but you just don't understand why.

It's either MAGA, or 'Live with it', make a choice!
By tecsan [Ignore] 16,Nov,23 22:53 other posts 
Just remember as stated above you participate in capitalism.

Maga CAUGHT on because it is the truth and you damn well know it. Compare it to what we have now, hell there is no choice there hands down MAGA.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Nov,23 05:57 other posts 
You can keep repeating the same nonsense, but it will not turn into truth.

Both the US and all the Scandinavian countries have capitalist systems.
All of those Scandinavian countries participate in capitalism,
but I'm sure you understand that there are big differences.
The working class gets exploited in the US much more than in those Scandinavian countries. Those countries are doing great and the people living within those countries have a much higher standard of living than Americans.
Then why do you keep thinking that your system is necessary?

If you want to MAGA, use the Scandinavian system. That's the truth.
Because, compared to what you have now, that's better in every way.
By tecsan [Ignore] 24,Nov,23 01:41 other posts 
You are right, it will not turn into the truth because it already is the truth.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Nov,23 08:43 other posts 
REASONS???
By tecsan [Ignore] 25,Nov,23 02:19 other posts 
Open your eyes...Which economy was better Trump's or biden's???Hell, most Americans know the answer to that one. Most all know joey is one of the worst presidents. Just take a look at the polls or would you like me to find them for you, I honestly think you can do it though.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Nov,23 10:24 other posts 
Did Biden have a huge financial crash, the highest unemployment in years and did he add 8 trillion of debt? You are not an unbiased observer, you are living in a fantasy.

Open your eyes, Americans are working their asses off for starvation wages, without any paid vacation, sick-days, maternity leave or overpay. Many people cannot afford healthcare or retirement. That's not Biden's fault, that is Republican policy screwing the people. What is good about that economy?

Every modern economy provides a better living standard for its people than the US. Your idea of capitalism only works for the wealthy and sucks for everyone else. You rank 33th in child mortality behind Slovakia and you just beat Chile. You rank 47th in life expectancy, behind the Czech Republic.
OPEN YOUR EYES, AMERICA SUCKS!!! AND IT'S YOUR FAULT!!!
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Nov,23 00:36 other posts 
Open your eyes, Americans are working their asses off for starvation wages, without any paid vacation, sick-days, maternity leave or overpay. What libtard world are you living in? I have all and more of what you mentioned.

We all get it you HATE AMERICA.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 27,Nov,23 14:18 other posts 
Are you saying it's not true? Nearly 52 million workers, almost one-third of the nation's labor force, earn less than $15 an hour. That's not enough to live on.
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28 Million Americans don't get any paid vacation or paid holidays.
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24% of civilian workers in the United States, or roughly 33.6 million people, do not have access to paid sick leave.
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In my country we have a right to 4 weeks paid vacation.
Employers have to pay 2 year of sick leave, for at least 70%.
Leave for organ donation, pregnancy and maternity is 100%.
Fathers get 5 days at 100%, but can get up to 5 weeks at 70%.

If I hated America, I would like how you are getting screwed.
If you loved America, you would want something better for Americans.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 26,Nov,23 17:19 other posts 
Biden's economy is better. Just what the defecit is doing to the country is enough to know The Clown was a failure. The polls are showing what the people THINK. It's not necessarily the truth. And what was so wrong with this country that a failed embezzler was needed to bring his Hitlerism to our land? You, Tecsan, are an adult with enough years under your belt. You honestly are going to tell me this country didn't do good for you?
You did have a car or cars, a TV or more, your kids got a free education, you have a refrigerator, an AC, a heater, you get to go to dinner, you have groceries for cooking, you can travel unhindered. What was all this bologna about Make America Great Again? In what color? With how much in your pocket?
Nah. Go drink your own CoolAid.
By tecsan [Ignore] 26,Nov,23 23:23 other posts 
Damn you really got into some of that Colorado Koolaide didn't you.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 27,Nov,23 17:05 other posts 
Tecsan if you believe MAGA is a true goal then tell me or us, “What country is better than the USA? And if you believe there is, why don’t you move there? I’m perfectly happy with how this country is going. Are there problems? Yeah, but not enough to cause the rift in the social fabric that this movement has brought to our country.
By tecsan [Ignore] 28,Nov,23 00:30 other posts 
CAT I love this Country. I do not know what you are talking about. MAGA just means make it better which a damn rodent could do. Uncle joey is wrecking it more and more each day. Looks like mr magoo trying to get off the damn stage. Not to mention falling UPSTAIRS when most fall downstairs.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Nov,23 23:35 other posts 
cat,your economy may not be in the tank but alot of peoples is.
Things are really slowing down ,houses are not selling, cars aren't selling, grading company's are laying people off.
By SAGGY_GRANNY [Ignore] 27,Nov,23 17:01 other posts 
Phart, if houses don’t sell it’s because of two things, either the prices are too high (speculators) or buyers don’t have the down payment. Either way, the status quo stays the same. The seller has a home and so does the buyer. BTW, look up new home construction in South and Central Florida and you’ll see house sales are going through the roof. If cars aren’t selling, same as houses. Price/ money available is the same. And if the grading company is laying people off, they can go to work at any of those places you’ve been complaining about not being able to get workers. The unemployment rate is below 4%. Gas in my area is at a 5yr low. The only things that are affecting everyone is food prices and medical costs including insurance.
Food is controlled by private industry and the same with medical costs. What do you propose? Have the Feds subsidize both of those? That would be “welfare” and you know how the Repucker Congress thinks about that.


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